No... It isn't? They added Eevee and it's original evolutions in Generation 1, and then threw in two more in Generation 2 to represent the day and night system. Ever since then, they have gone out of their way to give us a gap generation between every new set of eeveelutions. It is an incredibly well known trend. They could break it, but if you claim it doesn't exist that's just ignorance. It's not a coincidence. Again, stop nitpicking. Generation 1 is the exception, not the rule, and the reason it is the exception is that it was the generation Eevee was added. This isn't complicated.
GameFreak takes gap generations for new Eevee evolutions. Last generation had a new Eevee evolution. This generation probably won't. Any questions?
No... It isn't? They added Eevee and it's original evolutions in Generation 1, and then threw in two more in Generation 2 to represent the day and night system. Ever since then, they have gone out of their way to give us a gap generation between every new set of eeveelutions. It is an incredibly well known trend. They could break it, but if you claim it doesn't exist that's just ignorance. It's not a coincidence. Again, stop nitpicking. Generation 1 is the exception, not the rule, and the reason it is the exception is that it was the generation Eevee was added. This isn't complicated.
GameFreak takes gap generations for new Eevee evolutions. Last generation had a new Eevee evolution. This generation probably won't. Any questions?
Just because gen 1 was the original doesn't make it an exception. It doesn't matter if it was the generation where Eevee was added, it's still an exception to your odd and even generation rule and you can't just say it doesn't count.
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No... It isn't? They added Eevee and it's original evolutions in Generation 1, and then threw in two more in Generation 2 to represent the day and night system. Ever since then, they have gone out of their way to give us a gap generation between every new set of eeveelutions. It is an incredibly well known trend. They could break it, but if you claim it doesn't exist that's just ignorance. It's not a coincidence. Again, stop nitpicking. Generation 1 is the exception, not the rule, and the reason it is the exception is that it was the generation Eevee was added. This isn't complicated.
GameFreak takes gap generations for new Eevee evolutions. Last generation had a new Eevee evolution. This generation probably won't. Any questions?
If I had to guess, I'd say it's more to coincide with new features that work with eeveelution than anything else
Gen 2 added bot the day&night cycle and the happiness mechanic, so they added umbereon and espeon, which evolved based on time when they where happy enough, gen 3 only really added abilities, so no eeveelution could really be added around that, Gen 4 added tons of new evolutions, and evolution methods, so leafeon and glaceon where added, with the new and exclusive rock area evolution method. Gen 5 only had new Pokèmon in the main story, so a new eeveelution would be largely pointless, gen 6 added the fairy type and pokèamie, so they added Sylvain, which required a fairy type move and 2 amie hearts to evolve, therefore, it's not so much adding eeveelution every other generation, as much as it is added some when new features permit it, check, my idea wasn't even for new eeveelutions, it was for alolan forms of eeveelutions, making your pattern redundant
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Just because gen 1 was the original doesn't make it an exception. It doesn't matter if it was the generation where Eevee was added, it's still an exception to your odd and even generation rule and you can't just say it doesn't count.
Make up your mind. Is it an exception or not?
I already said it was the exception, I don't know why you're telling me that.
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If you're gonna call any outliers exceptions then I won't believe it.
Every even numbered generation had a new Eevee evolution, every odd numbered generation did not. Generation 1 is the exception to that statement by definition.
The 'incredibly known trend' is nothing more than a coincidence in my eyes.
What makes you think that?
If you're going to subscribe to the argument on "new evolution methods bring new Eevee evolutions" (along with many others here), let me debunk that right away. Where's the gen 5 Eeveelution which Eevee becomes when traded with a specific Pokemon? Where's the gen 3 Eeveelution which Eevee becomes when Eevee has a high beauty level? Where's the Eevee form for the tens of other evolution methods Eevee can't evolve using? Where's Mega Eevee?
And I'm sorry, I respect your opinion if you think it's a coincidence, but you're in the minority overall. Most people assumed there would be no new Eevee evolution this generation before it was even announced because of the pattern. And don't forget the Japanese trailer which confirmed there will be no new Eevee evolution. I don't even know why we're having this conversation.
I already said it was the exception, I don't know why you're telling me that.
Crap I worded that wrong my bad.
What I meant is that it is not an exception, that Eevee being added in gen 1 doesn't make it not count. I should've used a different word than 'exception' for the second point, which is that gen 1 and gen 2 adding new eevelutions consecucutively disproves your even and odd generation thing and you can't just say it doesn't count.
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I guess I'm not seeing why he can't say it doesn't count. If everything was exactly the same up to that point, but for some reason there was one different, that would make sense. But it was Gen 1, and they introduced both Eevee and about half of the Eevelutions in it, not because they were breaking the pattern, but because there wasn't anything before Gen 1, and they introduced all of the first pokemon there.
So yes, Gen 1 might mean its not a perfect pattern. But when you want a pattern, and you are out of sync, sometimes you have to change what you are doing to create that pattern. Its like starting to walk with your left foot, and then taking a half step to fix your gait.
Or something like that.
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What I meant is that it is not an exception, that Eevee being added in gen 1 doesn't make it not count. I should've used a different word than 'exception' for the second point, which is that gen 1 and gen 2 adding new eevelutions consecucutively disproves your even and odd generation thing and you can't just say it doesn't count.
This is like me saying "They won't add a new type in Gen 7 because we just got Fairy" and everybody else yelling "But we got new types in Gen 1 and Gen 2 consecutively!!"
It's the first generation, it is a massive exception to a lot of rules in Pokemon. You make it sound like Generation 1 was 'just another generation'. Generation 1 also had starters on the box arts, but the rule is still that there are two legendaries which feature on the box arts, and that rule will most likely hold for every new generation until the day the game dies.
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I guess I'm not seeing why he can't say it doesn't count. If everything was exactly the same up to that point, but for some reason there was one different, that would make sense. But it was Gen 1, and they introduced both Eevee and about half of the Eevelutions in it, not because they were breaking the pattern, but because there wasn't anything before Gen 1, and they introduced all of the first pokemon there.
So yes, Gen 1 might mean its not a perfect pattern. But when you want a pattern, and you are out of sync, sometimes you have to change what you are doing to create that pattern. Its like starting to walk with your left foot, and then taking a half step to fix your gait.
Or something like that.
He could be right, Game Freak could be doing that, nonetheless gen 1 is still a problem to that theory and although they could've changed the pattern later on, you can't just say gen 1 is an exception because it was first.
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you can't just say gen 1 is an exception because it was first.
I can. In fact, I don't need to. I don't need to give a reason why it's an exception, the fact is that there is a pattern and Generation 1 is the exception to that pattern. Have you read my post above? Generation 1 is the exception to many things you would now immediately take to be rules.
Every even numbered generation had a new Eevee evolution, every odd numbered generation did not. Generation 1 is the exception to that statement by definition.
What makes you think that?
If you're going to subscribe to the argument on "new evolution methods bring new Eevee evolutions" (along with many others here), let me debunk that right away. Where's the gen 5 Eeveelution which Eevee becomes when traded with a specific Pokemon? Where's the gen 3 Eeveelution which Eevee becomes when Eevee has a high beauty level? Where's the Eevee form for the tens of other evolution methods Eevee can't evolve using? Where's Mega Eevee?
And I'm sorry, I respect your opinion if you think it's a coincidence, but you're in the minority overall. Most people assumed there would be no new Eevee evolution this generation before it was even announced because of the pattern. And don't forget the Japanese trailer which confirmed there will be no new Eevee evolution. I don't even know why we're having this conversation.
Did you not read my statement? I said it was dependent on features, not new evolution the techniques, gen 2 added day&night and friendship, so they incorporated that into umbereon and espeon, gen 3 added no significant features, gen 4 was the mother of new evolutions and evolution methods, so new eevee's only made sense, eevee wasn't even available in black&white except via trade or event, so a new eeveelution would be pointless, and gen 6 added pokèamie and the fairy type, so they added sylveon, which required 2 amie hearts and a fairy type move, and yes, that trailer did confirm no new eeveelutions, but it didn't confirm no alolan forms of eeveelutions, as we don't know how they work in the dex, if I had to guess, I would say they have there own slots, as they are different enough, not to mention, game freak doesn't do all this background info for a reason, they chose, to show off popplio learning disarming voice at level 10, they chose, to use flygon and milotic in the trailer with tapu koko, both of which, I may add, where likely supposed to get mega's in OR/AS, they chose, to give the guy in the latest artwork with a mega rain a shirt with geranium pattern on it(i'll link the video soon) they chose, to show off a tauros with a light color scheme in the same art, and they chose to show off eevee's dex page, the point is, all the stuff game freak shows us, is calculated, they choose exactly what we see, and when we see it, Amtrak was teasing something when that kid caught and evolved that eevee, there is something going on. And we just don't know what.
I can. In fact, I don't need to. I don't need to give a reason why it's an exception, the fact is that there is a pattern and Generation 1 is the exception to that pattern. Have you read my post above? Generation 1 is the exception to many things you would now immediately take to be rules.
You are right, there is a pattern, but that pattern means almost nothing. Game Freak doesn't have to wait for an even numbered generation to roll around to add a new eevelution, they can do it whenever they want, which is demonstrated by gen 1 and 2. Gen 1 doesn't follow the pattern and in no way does gen 7 have to either.
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Genius, you might want to break up that wall of text.
As for Mega Evolution, something tells me even without clicking the video that their jumping the gun on it,, it could be a Z-Ring as far as we know.
And speaking of that video, it's perfectly possible they just picked Eevee because it's cute, popular, and not Pikachu for a change. Not that I'd mind new Eeveelutions.
You are right, there is a pattern, but that pattern means almost nothing. Game Freak doesn't have to wait for an even numbered generation to roll around to add a new eevelution, they can do it whenever they want, which is demonstrated by gen 1 and 2. Gen 1 doesn't follow the pattern and in no way does gen 7 have to either.
They don't have to, that doesn't mean we should assume they won't. I'm assuming they will because assuming GameFreak will follow established patterns is the logical thing to do. Stop talking about Generation 1, I've commented on Generation 1 countless times and you're ignoring it.
Genius, you might want to break up that wall of text.
As for Mega Evolution, something tells me even without clicking the video that their jumping the gun on it,, it could be a Z-Ring as far as we know.
And speaking of that video, it's perfectly possible they just picked Eevee because it's cute, popular, and not Pikachu for a change. Not that I'd mind new Eeveelutions.
I'm not you're within your right to say anyone is 'jumping the gun', when your comment is made before even watching it. Feels a bit hypocritical, but I digress.
To clarify, the Meganium thing is a joke, and he just uses that as a jumping off point to talk about new megas.
I see gamelord is being really stubborn about his eevee conspiracy.
Stubborn: "having or showing dogged determination not to change one's attitude or position on something, especially in spite of good reasons to do so."
You have now resorted to ignoring my arguments and the evidence backing them up in favour of passive aggressively yelling about how stubborn I am. You are now refusing to respond to the supporting evidence and reasoning I have provided. Sounds pretty... Stubborn?
Conspiracy: "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful."
I give up. You win. I throw in the towel. I have been bested.
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Stubborn: "having or showing dogged determination not to change one's attitude or position on something, especially in spite of good reasons to do so."
You have now resorted to ignoring my arguments and the evidence backing them up in favour of passive aggressively yelling about how stubborn I am. You are now refusing to respond to the supporting evidence and reasoning I have provided. Sounds pretty... Stubborn?
Conspiracy: "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful."
I give up. You win. I throw in the towel. I have been bested.
The only card I have seen from you has been your trump card, and a measly pattern that has only occurred 5 generations is not a good card to play, so yes, we will not get any new eeveelutions this generation, but no, we could get eeveelutions two generations in a row and there is nothing to suggest we won't get alolan form of current eeveelutions&eevee itself
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The only card I have seen from you has been your trump card, and a measly pattern that has only occurred 17 years is not a good card to play,
Gosh, you make 5 generations sound like such a short amount of time. FTFY.
so yes, we will not get any new eeveelutions this generation, but no, we could get eeveelutions two generations in a row and there is nothing to suggest we won't get alolan form of current eeveelutions&eevee itselF
Yes there is. Want one? We've already seen footage of normal Eevee and normal Umbreon. Done.
Gosh, you make 5 generations sound like such a short amount of time. FTFY.
Yes there is. Want one? We've already seen footage of normal Eevee and normal Umbreon. Done.
And for all we know we can catch non alolan forms of Pokèmon in Alola, execute lacks an alolan form yet still evolves into executeor, so it will likely get a split evolution in this sense, not to mention that I'm sure some vulpix/ninetales stayed down the mountains, and some sandshrew/sandslash stayed in the desert.
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That's because generation 1 was the original. You know what I mean. You know what the trend is. Stop nitpicking.
No... It isn't? They added Eevee and it's original evolutions in Generation 1, and then threw in two more in Generation 2 to represent the day and night system. Ever since then, they have gone out of their way to give us a gap generation between every new set of eeveelutions. It is an incredibly well known trend. They could break it, but if you claim it doesn't exist that's just ignorance. It's not a coincidence. Again, stop nitpicking. Generation 1 is the exception, not the rule, and the reason it is the exception is that it was the generation Eevee was added. This isn't complicated.
GameFreak takes gap generations for new Eevee evolutions. Last generation had a new Eevee evolution. This generation probably won't. Any questions?
Just because gen 1 was the original doesn't make it an exception. It doesn't matter if it was the generation where Eevee was added, it's still an exception to your odd and even generation rule and you can't just say it doesn't count.
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If I had to guess, I'd say it's more to coincide with new features that work with eeveelution than anything else
Gen 2 added bot the day&night cycle and the happiness mechanic, so they added umbereon and espeon, which evolved based on time when they where happy enough, gen 3 only really added abilities, so no eeveelution could really be added around that, Gen 4 added tons of new evolutions, and evolution methods, so leafeon and glaceon where added, with the new and exclusive rock area evolution method. Gen 5 only had new Pokèmon in the main story, so a new eeveelution would be largely pointless, gen 6 added the fairy type and pokèamie, so they added Sylvain, which required a fairy type move and 2 amie hearts to evolve, therefore, it's not so much adding eeveelution every other generation, as much as it is added some when new features permit it, check, my idea wasn't even for new eeveelutions, it was for alolan forms of eeveelutions, making your pattern redundant
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Every even numbered generation had a new Eevee evolution, every odd numbered generation did not. Generation 1 is the exception to that statement by definition.
What makes you think that?
If you're going to subscribe to the argument on "new evolution methods bring new Eevee evolutions" (along with many others here), let me debunk that right away. Where's the gen 5 Eeveelution which Eevee becomes when traded with a specific Pokemon? Where's the gen 3 Eeveelution which Eevee becomes when Eevee has a high beauty level? Where's the Eevee form for the tens of other evolution methods Eevee can't evolve using? Where's Mega Eevee?
And I'm sorry, I respect your opinion if you think it's a coincidence, but you're in the minority overall. Most people assumed there would be no new Eevee evolution this generation before it was even announced because of the pattern. And don't forget the Japanese trailer which confirmed there will be no new Eevee evolution. I don't even know why we're having this conversation.
Crap I worded that wrong my bad.
What I meant is that it is not an exception, that Eevee being added in gen 1 doesn't make it not count. I should've used a different word than 'exception' for the second point, which is that gen 1 and gen 2 adding new eevelutions consecucutively disproves your even and odd generation thing and you can't just say it doesn't count.
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I guess I'm not seeing why he can't say it doesn't count. If everything was exactly the same up to that point, but for some reason there was one different, that would make sense. But it was Gen 1, and they introduced both Eevee and about half of the Eevelutions in it, not because they were breaking the pattern, but because there wasn't anything before Gen 1, and they introduced all of the first pokemon there.
So yes, Gen 1 might mean its not a perfect pattern. But when you want a pattern, and you are out of sync, sometimes you have to change what you are doing to create that pattern. Its like starting to walk with your left foot, and then taking a half step to fix your gait.
Or something like that.
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This is like me saying "They won't add a new type in Gen 7 because we just got Fairy" and everybody else yelling "But we got new types in Gen 1 and Gen 2 consecutively!!"
It's the first generation, it is a massive exception to a lot of rules in Pokemon. You make it sound like Generation 1 was 'just another generation'. Generation 1 also had starters on the box arts, but the rule is still that there are two legendaries which feature on the box arts, and that rule will most likely hold for every new generation until the day the game dies.
He could be right, Game Freak could be doing that, nonetheless gen 1 is still a problem to that theory and although they could've changed the pattern later on, you can't just say gen 1 is an exception because it was first.
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I can. In fact, I don't need to. I don't need to give a reason why it's an exception, the fact is that there is a pattern and Generation 1 is the exception to that pattern. Have you read my post above? Generation 1 is the exception to many things you would now immediately take to be rules.
Did you not read my statement? I said it was dependent on features, not new evolution the techniques, gen 2 added day&night and friendship, so they incorporated that into umbereon and espeon, gen 3 added no significant features, gen 4 was the mother of new evolutions and evolution methods, so new eevee's only made sense, eevee wasn't even available in black&white except via trade or event, so a new eeveelution would be pointless, and gen 6 added pokèamie and the fairy type, so they added sylveon, which required 2 amie hearts and a fairy type move, and yes, that trailer did confirm no new eeveelutions, but it didn't confirm no alolan forms of eeveelutions, as we don't know how they work in the dex, if I had to guess, I would say they have there own slots, as they are different enough, not to mention, game freak doesn't do all this background info for a reason, they chose, to show off popplio learning disarming voice at level 10, they chose, to use flygon and milotic in the trailer with tapu koko, both of which, I may add, where likely supposed to get mega's in OR/AS, they chose, to give the guy in the latest artwork with a mega rain a shirt with geranium pattern on it(i'll link the video soon) they chose, to show off a tauros with a light color scheme in the same art, and they chose to show off eevee's dex page, the point is, all the stuff game freak shows us, is calculated, they choose exactly what we see, and when we see it, Amtrak was teasing something when that kid caught and evolved that eevee, there is something going on. And we just don't know what.
Oh, and here's that video I was talking about
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You are right, there is a pattern, but that pattern means almost nothing. Game Freak doesn't have to wait for an even numbered generation to roll around to add a new eevelution, they can do it whenever they want, which is demonstrated by gen 1 and 2. Gen 1 doesn't follow the pattern and in no way does gen 7 have to either.
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Genius, you might want to break up that wall of text.
As for Mega Evolution, something tells me even without clicking the video that their jumping the gun on it,, it could be a Z-Ring as far as we know.
And speaking of that video, it's perfectly possible they just picked Eevee because it's cute, popular, and not Pikachu for a change. Not that I'd mind new Eeveelutions.
They don't have to, that doesn't mean we should assume they won't. I'm assuming they will because assuming GameFreak will follow established patterns is the logical thing to do. Stop talking about Generation 1, I've commented on Generation 1 countless times and you're ignoring it.
I'm not you're within your right to say anyone is 'jumping the gun', when your comment is made before even watching it. Feels a bit hypocritical, but I digress.
To clarify, the Meganium thing is a joke, and he just uses that as a jumping off point to talk about new megas.
Stubborn: "having or showing dogged determination not to change one's attitude or position on something, especially in spite of good reasons to do so."
You have now resorted to ignoring my arguments and the evidence backing them up in favour of passive aggressively yelling about how stubborn I am. You are now refusing to respond to the supporting evidence and reasoning I have provided. Sounds pretty... Stubborn?
Conspiracy: "a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful."
I give up. You win. I throw in the towel. I have been bested.
The only card I have seen from you has been your trump card, and a measly pattern that has only occurred 5 generations is not a good card to play, so yes, we will not get any new eeveelutions this generation, but no, we could get eeveelutions two generations in a row and there is nothing to suggest we won't get alolan form of current eeveelutions&eevee itself
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Gosh, you make 5 generations sound like such a short amount of time. FTFY.
Yes there is. Want one? We've already seen footage of normal Eevee and normal Umbreon. Done.
And for all we know we can catch non alolan forms of Pokèmon in Alola, execute lacks an alolan form yet still evolves into executeor, so it will likely get a split evolution in this sense, not to mention that I'm sure some vulpix/ninetales stayed down the mountains, and some sandshrew/sandslash stayed in the desert.
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