I notice a lot of posts going around saying that Minecraft's performance is random, and it is easy to see why. Performance varies so much between systems with very similar specs. But why? Well, maybe it isn't.
I believe that Minecraft has a sweet spot in terms of drivers. Some earlier driver releases from both AMD and Nvidia might perform much better when it comes to Minecraft.
Thoughts? Potentially stupid or will you look deeper into this? I'm fine with both.
(Don't mean to come off hostile. Legitimately curious.)
Didn't really hear it from anything, just my own personal theory as to why Minecraft is seemingly random in terms of framerates. PC gamers use a large variety of driver versions from what I've seen.
Thoughts? Potentially stupid or will you look deeper into this? I'm fine with both.
It's variance is not from drivers or driver versions, it was from LWJGL itself and OpenGL 1.x. (And the users having bloat on their systems that they don't admit to.)
Though the randomness has been minimized for a few versions now....... I don't know why anyone is reporting otherwise.
Source: Tested on 4 identical sets(2) of machines throughout MC's life, same drivers, same hardware, same everything. Performance was still random, and was able to be traced back to LWJGL. With some tweaking the performance became similar again.
Driver version seems to have near 0 effect on the performance of the game, likely because there is no reason for the driver to interfere with it's performance.
I have noticed performance changes after updating GPU drivers. Sometimes better, sometimes worse. The problem is that the manufacturers don't even consider Minecraft when running their driver's benchmark tests, it's always just the DirectX-based brown & green army shooters.
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You could not have got 500+ fps. You monitor could probably only display at 60 fps anyway, so anything above 60 fps is a waste.
560Ti's are getting well over 600 FPS.
Also, I recommend checking framerates using Fraps, not F3. On most setups, F3 will reduce framerates, not giving an accurate result.
It's Minecraft, getting extremely high FPS counts isn't the hardest thing to do on decent hardware.
You would be surprised at how much it varies.
Out in the wilderness? No problem for most PC's. But in a complex city build with a lot of lighting/mobs/redstone? Bye-bye framerate. Even my old R7870 couldn't maintain 60 fps anywhere near a fairly large mob-grinder tower, and that's quite a common build to make in Minecraft.
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Also true, I can't wait until they update this (it's planned), but others with old hardware will complain like crazy.
Hahahaha, you think that will ever happen?
Don't even get me started on the list of "planned features" that never happened, some 5 years later.
You would be surprised at how much it varies.
It really doesn't any more. Not for a few versions now.
Out in the wilderness? No problem for most PC's. But in a complex city build with a lot of lighting/mobs/redstone? Bye-bye framerate. Even my old R7870 couldn't maintain 60 fps anywhere near a fairly large mob-grinder tower, and that's quite a common build to make in Minecraft.
Again, this does not happen any more. If you are experiencing this you have other issues.
I believe that Minecraft has a sweet spot in terms of drivers. Some earlier driver releases from both AMD and Nvidia might perform much better when it comes to Minecraft.
Thoughts? Potentially stupid or will you look deeper into this? I'm fine with both.
(Don't mean to come off hostile. Legitimately curious.)
Didn't really hear it from anything, just my own personal theory as to why Minecraft is seemingly random in terms of framerates. PC gamers use a large variety of driver versions from what I've seen.
Though the randomness has been minimized for a few versions now....... I don't know why anyone is reporting otherwise.
Source: Tested on 4 identical sets(2) of machines throughout MC's life, same drivers, same hardware, same everything. Performance was still random, and was able to be traced back to LWJGL. With some tweaking the performance became similar again.
Driver version seems to have near 0 effect on the performance of the game, likely because there is no reason for the driver to interfere with it's performance.
1.5.* Release and 1.6 Beta and below are most performing ones I used.
1.7.* Release feels the same again as those did, which runs very good normally capping at vsync 60.
The 1.8 snapshots so far are the same.
Which is funny. Performance issues occurred with new Launcher and 1.6. They also updated to ""latest"" LWGL libraries then.
Latest does not always mean greatest.
I can concur with this.
I think I can agree with this.
I think vanilla 1.7 runs better than 1.6 with Optifine even.
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It does, I have tested this. Vanilla 1.7 runs better on max settings than 1.6.4 with optifine on lowest settings.
Results may vary for some though.
You could not have got 500+ fps. You monitor could probably only display at 60 fps anyway, so anything above 60 fps is a waste.
At least 86% of what I say is always correct.
560Ti's are getting well over 600 FPS.
Also, I recommend checking framerates using Fraps, not F3. On most setups, F3 will reduce framerates, not giving an accurate result.
It's Minecraft, getting extremely high FPS counts isn't the hardest thing to do on decent hardware.
Also true, I can't wait until they update this (it's planned), but others with old hardware will complain like crazy.
You would be surprised at how much it varies.
Out in the wilderness? No problem for most PC's. But in a complex city build with a lot of lighting/mobs/redstone? Bye-bye framerate. Even my old R7870 couldn't maintain 60 fps anywhere near a fairly large mob-grinder tower, and that's quite a common build to make in Minecraft.
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Don't even get me started on the list of "planned features" that never happened, some 5 years later.
It really doesn't any more. Not for a few versions now.
Again, this does not happen any more. If you are experiencing this you have other issues.
Aren't there many ways to go about fixing this? I think this issue happens the most with 7850's and 7970's, that or I've been lied to.