So the laptops cannot burn discs? I'm pretty sure that most DVD/CD drives can do both, I know mine can. Shame just use a USB drive then. seriously cheaper then RAM for a 2GB one. Just do it.
Not the laptops. Two my PCs. Two of the others don't even have CD\DVD drives. Only 3 1/4 floppy
Eh, How can you not have USB drives? Also I'm pretty sure your PCs have at least Windows 7+ which is fully capable of supporting USB drives the last time I checked.
Ya... you can totally run windows 7 or newer with 64MB RAM, a Pentium 100 processor and 1MB of video RAM... Totally. You can't even run Windows XP with that!
Why are you people against me using computers that are available to me. Just because Windows for workgroups 3.11 is 6 years older than me doesn't mean that I can't use it! My newest computer is 13 years old anyway and I'm fine with that. Are you criticizing me on my lack new technology? I don't see why you should. I don't have enough money to buy a newer PC, and I don't need to because all 8 of them work great!
We're not against you having old computers. We're against you running programs on the schools computers that aren't already installed on there. The schools computers do not belong to you, do not mess about with them. If you want to run your own programs at school, there's this great invention called a laptop that you should look into. Oh wait, but you HATE laptops! Well, guess you'll just have to stick with what's already on the schools computers.
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If you want to run your own programs at school, there's this great invention called a laptop that you should look into. Oh wait, but you HATE laptops! Well, guess you'll just have to stick with what's already on the schools computers.
Were not allowed to bring our own laptops to the school. Were not even allowed to have phones. I don't own either anyway so that's good.
Were not allowed to bring our own laptops to the school. Were not even allowed to have phones. I don't own either anyway so that's good.
Well in that case just stick to what's on the computers at school. While classes are going on, you should be learning. Any other time, go do whatever recreational activities you want. There is a time and place for everything.
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Not the laptops. Two my PCs. Two of the others don't even have CD\DVD drives. Only 3 1/4 floppy
Ya... you can totally run windows 7 or newer with 64MB RAM, a Pentium 100 processor and 1MB of video RAM... Totally. You can't even run Windows XP with that!
I think it might be time for a little upgrade am I right?
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Actually you can there are dozens of lightweight Linux distros that can run on less then 64MB of ram. Should you install it probably not. Pentium 4s are being thrown out by schools and other places in the thousands. Over the summer we trashed at least 400 machines with 2GB of ram and a Pentium4.
Speaking of making people think your hacking, I was board one day so I made a fake network hacker program for the Commadore PET to trick my friends I was hacking the mainframe. Some of my friends thought it was real but the teachers never saw it...
You can be expelled for doing things like this, regardless of if it is real or not.
Keep this kind of crap at home.
Absolutely, or for even less. When I was in 10th grade, the local Administrator account password (on Windows XP) had somehow gotten out and all the geeky kids knew it. At one point, they found out because some kid did something stupid with installing video codecs to watch Anime in class. They made a deal that if he told on someone else who had the password, he would get in less trouble. So he did, and they made the next deal. Eventually it spread around and over handful of people got 3-day out of school suspensions just for knowing the password. I myself even got suspended when they were sniffing out network traffic and saw me chatting on AIM with someone (from my own laptop!) talking about networking-related topics. I got called into the office and they had the chat transcripts printed out. The funny part afterwards was that an entire year later during graduation (for the seniors, when I was still a junior), an entire row of students each had one letter of the local admin password written on the top of their graduation caps, so when they were sitting down in a row, you could just read out the password from up in the audience.
Why are you people against me using computers that are available to me.
We're "against" you thinking the school should somehow consider your tech level before changing their machines.
Just because Windows for workgroups 3.11 is 6 years older than me doesn't mean that I can't use it!
It does mean however that you cannot expect others (including the school) to somehow consider your interoperability needs when they change their hardware.
My newest computer is 13 years old anyway and I'm fine with that.
That computer should be running at least XP, though.
Actually, I do sometimes! I also brought a copy of IE5 once.
And you continue to openly admit that you run your own arbitrary software on school machines.
Also, how could I use USB on a PC without USB drives?
Did you just call USB ports USB Drives? You just said your newest computer was 13 years old. That would be 2001, which means it would have USB Ports. USB 1.1, probably, but USB nonetheless.
I don't think Windows 95 would support it very well if I had a card anyway.
OSR2 supports USB Flash drives. Windows 2000 is the best to go with for lowest common denominator. I used that on a machine with 26MB of RAM for internet connectivity.
That is why I use floppy disks. The CD drive is a non-burner by the way. Just a reader.
CD Burners are cheap. The one I mentioned? I used with a 486DX-2, running windows 98SE with I think 24MB of RAM. In the morning if I made a lot of programming changes the evening before I would burn a new disk. I Distinctly recall even multitasking and burning while I used an NES emulator. In that case the burner was given to me, though, so there is that. I can at least understand the not being able to afford things bit.
Actually come to think of it the only reason I was able to upgrade from a 1MB 286 with a Hercules Graphics card was because my CS teacher gave me computers. In total he gave me a 386, a Pentium MMX (which I accidentally fried when I removed the "decoration" that I later learned was a rather critical component called a heatsink on top of the integrated graphics chip), a AMD K6-2@350Mhz which I used for like 6 years (and maxed out the RAM at 512MB), and a Thinkpad 755CDV laptop and a Toshiba Satellite Pro 440CDX. That doesn't even count the expansion cards and software (A full packaged copy of Windows 3.1 and Visual Basic 2.0, among others).
Did you just call USB ports USB Drives? You just said your newest computer was 13 years old. That would be 2001, which means it would have USB Ports. USB 1.1, probably, but USB nonetheless.
Sorry, it's 14 now. My dad got it in 2000. It's true though. I do have USB 1.1, the only thing is... to use a flash drive, do you want me to unplug the keyboard or mouse first?
I also just got a new computer from my neighbors! A HP Pavilion XE783. I installed Windows 98se, but I can't get USB flash drives to work. I plugged in my 1GB flash drive and it said it needed to install the drivers. I directed it to look on the install disk, I had but it said it couldn't locate any. Where could I find USB drivers for Windows 98se? I can't install the the other drivers until I install this one. The others are to big for diskette, so I guess have to use it with only 16 or 2 colors and 640x480 screen resolution until then.
to use a flash drive, do you want me to unplug the keyboard or mouse first?
use a PS/2 keyboard and mouse.
but I can't get USB flash drives to work.
For somebody who seems to pride themselves on working with older systems and being "smarter at them than everybody else" you don't seem to have a lot of experience with them. Neither Windows 98 nor Windows 98SE included class drivers for USB Mass Storage devices. Your options are to either look at the manufacturers web page and hope they support Windows 98SE (they probably don't) Or, ideally, install something like this. I personally install the Unofficial Service Pack for Windows 98SE, which has generic USB Mass Storage Class drivers. I've been able to use my external Hard Drives and Flash Drives with my Windows 98SE laptop (which has a single 1.1 Port on the back).
that's a little bit moronic, i don't think people, including teachers or school official.... people should have any right to control things they don't understand, so if they are unable to understand how computers work to even a mild degree, they should get another person who DOES know instead of trying to control usage.
in other words, if they don't understand it, i don't believe they should have any legal right to restrict it in any way, this applies to everything and everyone.
It's their crap, as far as the law is concerned, you can only do whatever the hell they tell you.
Their computers, their school, their internet, their power. Don't whine about it.
you misunderstood, i wasn't whining, i don't go to school anymore, when i did go they were quite reasonable about it, and i was talking very generally, i believe that nobody should have legal rights to restrict things they don't actually understand, because then they do stupid stuff like in the post i quoted.
i know that they are allowed to do that sort of stuff, i was saying that they shouldn't be able to.
That is a terrible, terrible idea. Just because most teachers don't understand how to make mustard gas doesn't mean they shouldn't restrict it.
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I think you're just trying to show off your old computers quite honestly. You aren't part of some PC Master Race for having horribly outdated machines.
if they know that mustard gas is unhealthy/toxic, it's a pretty sensible thing to do, just the name alone is a massive hint at what it does, and computers are extremely varied in the things they do.
Uhh, no. The name "mustard gas" is nowhere near a 'massive hint' at what it does.
It sounds more like something released in a stinkbomb.
You would be hard pressed to find any job in just about any country and especially in the more industrialization nations that does not involve having basic computer knowledge.
Most farming is highly automated at this point. Tractors and combines can pilot them selves keeping them in a straight line on a row. When spraying each nozzle can report to the computer its output to make sure and get the most even spread. If some nozzles happen to go over an area already sprayed they can be shutoff.Even ignoring that part of it keeping track of seed pricing to know when to sell. To keep spreadsheets of costs and income.
Lets say a Librarian well all book systems are automated keeping track of patrons automated. Need to have a basic working knowledge of computers to do that. Before we moved systems I had to teach the Librarian how to rebuild a raid array not exactly hard. Why because she had the chance to use basic computers in her education.
It was not until 2008 that an ISP was finally move in to provide any type of internet service that was not dial up that home users could afford. The only two places before that with a non dial up connection was the local school and the public library.
I consider both schools and libraries key in the education especially in a rural area that did not get proper internet until the past 4 years. If it was not for the school having a computer and the public library I would not have had access to the internet and a home computer until about 2006-2007.
That's all I can run in Windows 3.1!
Not the laptops. Two my PCs. Two of the others don't even have CD\DVD drives. Only 3 1/4 floppy
Ya... you can totally run windows 7 or newer with 64MB RAM, a Pentium 100 processor and 1MB of video RAM... Totally. You can't even run Windows XP with that!
At least 86% of what I say is always correct.
We're not against you having old computers. We're against you running programs on the schools computers that aren't already installed on there. The schools computers do not belong to you, do not mess about with them. If you want to run your own programs at school, there's this great invention called a laptop that you should look into. Oh wait, but you HATE laptops! Well, guess you'll just have to stick with what's already on the schools computers.
Were not allowed to bring our own laptops to the school. Were not even allowed to have phones. I don't own either anyway so that's good.
At least 86% of what I say is always correct.
Well in that case just stick to what's on the computers at school. While classes are going on, you should be learning. Any other time, go do whatever recreational activities you want. There is a time and place for everything.
I think it might be time for a little upgrade am I right?
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Absolutely, or for even less. When I was in 10th grade, the local Administrator account password (on Windows XP) had somehow gotten out and all the geeky kids knew it. At one point, they found out because some kid did something stupid with installing video codecs to watch Anime in class. They made a deal that if he told on someone else who had the password, he would get in less trouble. So he did, and they made the next deal. Eventually it spread around and over handful of people got 3-day out of school suspensions just for knowing the password. I myself even got suspended when they were sniffing out network traffic and saw me chatting on AIM with someone (from my own laptop!) talking about networking-related topics. I got called into the office and they had the chat transcripts printed out. The funny part afterwards was that an entire year later during graduation (for the seniors, when I was still a junior), an entire row of students each had one letter of the local admin password written on the top of their graduation caps, so when they were sitting down in a row, you could just read out the password from up in the audience.
It's like saying you can go to Jail for invading privacy for busting in a room catching your wife cheating on you.
We're "against" you thinking the school should somehow consider your tech level before changing their machines.
It does mean however that you cannot expect others (including the school) to somehow consider your interoperability needs when they change their hardware.
That computer should be running at least XP, though.
And you continue to openly admit that you run your own arbitrary software on school machines.
Did you just call USB ports USB Drives? You just said your newest computer was 13 years old. That would be 2001, which means it would have USB Ports. USB 1.1, probably, but USB nonetheless.
OSR2 supports USB Flash drives. Windows 2000 is the best to go with for lowest common denominator. I used that on a machine with 26MB of RAM for internet connectivity.
CD Burners are cheap. The one I mentioned? I used with a 486DX-2, running windows 98SE with I think 24MB of RAM. In the morning if I made a lot of programming changes the evening before I would burn a new disk. I Distinctly recall even multitasking and burning while I used an NES emulator. In that case the burner was given to me, though, so there is that. I can at least understand the not being able to afford things bit.
Actually come to think of it the only reason I was able to upgrade from a 1MB 286 with a Hercules Graphics card was because my CS teacher gave me computers. In total he gave me a 386, a Pentium MMX (which I accidentally fried when I removed the "decoration" that I later learned was a rather critical component called a heatsink on top of the integrated graphics chip), a AMD K6-2@350Mhz which I used for like 6 years (and maxed out the RAM at 512MB), and a Thinkpad 755CDV laptop and a Toshiba Satellite Pro 440CDX. That doesn't even count the expansion cards and software (A full packaged copy of Windows 3.1 and Visual Basic 2.0, among others).
Sorry, it's 14 now. My dad got it in 2000. It's true though. I do have USB 1.1, the only thing is... to use a flash drive, do you want me to unplug the keyboard or mouse first?
I also just got a new computer from my neighbors! A HP Pavilion XE783. I installed Windows 98se, but I can't get USB flash drives to work. I plugged in my 1GB flash drive and it said it needed to install the drivers. I directed it to look on the install disk, I had but it said it couldn't locate any. Where could I find USB drivers for Windows 98se? I can't install the the other drivers until I install this one. The others are to big for diskette, so I guess have to use it with only 16 or 2 colors and 640x480 screen resolution until then.
At least 86% of what I say is always correct.
use a PS/2 keyboard and mouse.
For somebody who seems to pride themselves on working with older systems and being "smarter at them than everybody else" you don't seem to have a lot of experience with them. Neither Windows 98 nor Windows 98SE included class drivers for USB Mass Storage devices. Your options are to either look at the manufacturers web page and hope they support Windows 98SE (they probably don't) Or, ideally, install something like this. I personally install the Unofficial Service Pack for Windows 98SE, which has generic USB Mass Storage Class drivers. I've been able to use my external Hard Drives and Flash Drives with my Windows 98SE laptop (which has a single 1.1 Port on the back).
It's their crap, as far as the law is concerned, you can only do whatever the hell they tell you.
Their computers, their school, their internet, their power. Don't whine about it.
That is a terrible, terrible idea. Just because most teachers don't understand how to make mustard gas doesn't mean they shouldn't restrict it.
It sounds more like something released in a stinkbomb.
Really? So I guess you've never heard of the noble gases or laughing gas then. Laughing gas is safe to use and we breathe in plenty of gases daily.
None of the schools in my town even have computers.
No they aren't.
You would be hard pressed to find any job in just about any country and especially in the more industrialization nations that does not involve having basic computer knowledge.
Most farming is highly automated at this point. Tractors and combines can pilot them selves keeping them in a straight line on a row. When spraying each nozzle can report to the computer its output to make sure and get the most even spread. If some nozzles happen to go over an area already sprayed they can be shutoff.Even ignoring that part of it keeping track of seed pricing to know when to sell. To keep spreadsheets of costs and income.
Lets say a Librarian well all book systems are automated keeping track of patrons automated. Need to have a basic working knowledge of computers to do that. Before we moved systems I had to teach the Librarian how to rebuild a raid array not exactly hard. Why because she had the chance to use basic computers in her education.
It was not until 2008 that an ISP was finally move in to provide any type of internet service that was not dial up that home users could afford. The only two places before that with a non dial up connection was the local school and the public library.
I consider both schools and libraries key in the education especially in a rural area that did not get proper internet until the past 4 years. If it was not for the school having a computer and the public library I would not have had access to the internet and a home computer until about 2006-2007.