Both my motherboard and PSU need to be RMA'd. Yeah, they're defective, it sucks. We might get the replacments overnighted. Oh well.
Anyways, I'm about to start dismantling everything to get the PSU and mobo out, and I'm wondering, how will I be able to remove the CPU? It's a 3770K. Will it just lift out once the latch assembly is lifted off? Is 91% rubbing alcohol okay to remove the paste from the CPU and cooler (212 evo)?
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The CPU cooler may need a bit of force to take off, but the CPU will just come out once you remove the latch. 91% rubbing alcohol is what I use to remove thermal paste along with coffee filters or some other lint-free cloth.
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Turn the computer on for a few minutes (just boot to BIOS, should be enough) to loosen the thermal paste and make it easier to remove the heatsink.
Once the heatsink is off (should be self explanatory how to remove) just undo the latch and the CPU should be right there. Get it up with your fingernail a bit if you can and pick it up and out by the sides. Done and done.
91% should be fine. So long as it's higher than 70%.
I used to consistently use 99% alcohol but they stopped selling it in most areas recently because people were getting super high off it (of course). 91% is sufficient.
Once the heatsink is off (should be self explanatory how to remove) just undo the latch and the CPU should be right there. Get it up with your fingernail a bit if you can and pick it up and out by the sides. Done and done.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” — Albert Einstein
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
Thanks for all the help, I got everything removed and cleaned and packaged up.
With a little luck, maybe I'll have a working system tomorrow night... The rest of the components seem to be fine at least. The fans are noisier than I expected.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” — Albert Einstein
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
Are you sure it was the motherboard and power supply that had issues?
Yes. PSU was obvious, it had issues with coil whine. Looked it up online, symptoms seemed to match up, so I RMA'd it.
Mobo was a horrible mess of boot loops, corrupted BIOS versions, delayed boots, crashes, etc... I tried everything I could find online, nothing helped. I'm suspecting some sort of hardware fault, the UD5H has unusually high failure rates according to the reviews on Amazon and Newegg.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” — Albert Einstein
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
On a similar note, what's the best way to store the un-inserted CPU?
I suppose in the packaging, but what if, erm, you threw that out.
775 was easy since it has no pins, so just an ordinary antistatic bag will do. Now these newer cpus are a lot more tricky to store.oh and alcohol is unnesecary, regular tissue or similar will remove 99% of the thermal paste, leaving you with a nice smooth cpu which is the most important thing. All it leaves is the slightest smudge, so thin that you can still read the writing on the cpu with no issue at all. i don't know why people make such a big fuss about alcohol, do you also carry a small paintbrush with you to car to clean the air vents of small dust particles? Do you also carry an emergency shoe polishing kit when you go out?
Do you have any other packaging left? Any antistatic bags?
Me? Maybe and no. Though, my question was really just hypothetical. If I do need to RMA a mobo, I'll order an antistatic bag, put it in a box, and put that in a cabinet under my desk.
Me? Maybe and no. Though, my question was really just hypothetical. If I do need to RMA a mobo, I'll order an antistatic bag, put it in a box, and put that in a cabinet under my desk.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” — Albert Einstein
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
oh and alcohol is unnesecary, regular tissue or similar will remove 99% of the thermal paste, leaving you with a nice smooth cpu which is the most important thing. All it leaves is the slightest smudge, so thin that you can still read the writing on the cpu with no issue at all. i don't know why people make such a big fuss about alcohol, do you also carry a small paintbrush with you to car to clean the air vents of small dust particles? Do you also carry an emergency shoe polishing kit when you go out?
Do you even know what Thermal Compound is even for, seems you do not really or know how it works.
It attempts to compensate for irregularities between the two surfaces - tiny microscopic bumps or ridges which may hinder proper thermal conductivity between the two surfaces.
If you do not properly use a solvent to remove the thermal compound from these tiny microsopic holes/pores in the top of the CPU IHS or the bottom of the heat sink itself, then you just basically killed the true reason for thermal compound and better off just using no thermal compound at all.
I have no idea what ever made you think to not clean using a solvent safe for cleaning thermal compound, but I can assure you are badly mistaking.
And ask yourself this, if the pores are not cleansed of old thermal compound. Then what will happen with the new compound. Will it just sit on top and act like a insulator or will it mix with the old compound. The first option is the correct one.
Anyways, I'm about to start dismantling everything to get the PSU and mobo out, and I'm wondering, how will I be able to remove the CPU? It's a 3770K. Will it just lift out once the latch assembly is lifted off? Is 91% rubbing alcohol okay to remove the paste from the CPU and cooler (212 evo)?
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
Once the heatsink is off (should be self explanatory how to remove) just undo the latch and the CPU should be right there. Get it up with your fingernail a bit if you can and pick it up and out by the sides. Done and done.
91% should be fine. So long as it's higher than 70%.
I used to consistently use 99% alcohol but they stopped selling it in most areas recently because people were getting super high off it (of course). 91% is sufficient.
It won't even boot to BIOS. The mobo has some major issues.
Okay, I'll do that.
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
You won't rip it out of the socket like older CPUs thanks to the clamps, but you don't want to damage anything.
Remember to twist and pull. Twisting releases the thermal paste easier.
With a little luck, maybe I'll have a working system tomorrow night... The rest of the components seem to be fine at least. The fans are noisier than I expected.
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
Could he heat the heat sink with a hair dryer to soften up the paste first?
Edit: Ninja'd by success.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/SteevyT/saved/21PI
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."
I suppose in the packaging, but what if, erm, you threw that out.
Yes. PSU was obvious, it had issues with coil whine. Looked it up online, symptoms seemed to match up, so I RMA'd it.
Mobo was a horrible mess of boot loops, corrupted BIOS versions, delayed boots, crashes, etc... I tried everything I could find online, nothing helped. I'm suspecting some sort of hardware fault, the UD5H has unusually high failure rates according to the reviews on Amazon and Newegg.
I cleaned it off with alcohol, removed it, and put it in the original package.
If you don't have it, an antistatic bag might work as a temporary solution... Just avoid putting the bag anywhere where it could get crushed.
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
775 was easy since it has no pins, so just an ordinary antistatic bag will do. Now these newer cpus are a lot more tricky to store.oh and alcohol is unnesecary, regular tissue or similar will remove 99% of the thermal paste, leaving you with a nice smooth cpu which is the most important thing. All it leaves is the slightest smudge, so thin that you can still read the writing on the cpu with no issue at all. i don't know why people make such a big fuss about alcohol, do you also carry a small paintbrush with you to car to clean the air vents of small dust particles? Do you also carry an emergency shoe polishing kit when you go out?
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."
Me? Maybe and no. Though, my question was really just hypothetical. If I do need to RMA a mobo, I'll order an antistatic bag, put it in a box, and put that in a cabinet under my desk.
Was referring to John.
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."
I have some left, why? I put the CPU in the plastic holder thingy that it was shipped in.
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
Do you even know what Thermal Compound is even for, seems you do not really or know how it works.
If you do not properly use a solvent to remove the thermal compound from these tiny microsopic holes/pores in the top of the CPU IHS or the bottom of the heat sink itself, then you just basically killed the true reason for thermal compound and better off just using no thermal compound at all.
I have no idea what ever made you think to not clean using a solvent safe for cleaning thermal compound, but I can assure you are badly mistaking.
And ask yourself this, if the pores are not cleansed of old thermal compound. Then what will happen with the new compound. Will it just sit on top and act like a insulator or will it mix with the old compound. The first option is the correct one.