All suggestions and advice is greatly appreciated. A little lag is fine. Just not tremendous lag. Lowest PC specifications that run KUDA shaders is what I'm looking for.
I got a 960 and if I'm not mistaken that's one of the easier packs to run. And the only one that wouldn't run on high(As high as needed, not 32 render or anything) is SEUS Ultra. And it ran, but with lag spikes. Kuda should run perfectly fine on a 960 even with the graphics turned up a good amount.
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Is there any GPU very similar to the GTX 960? And do you know which gen i3 works best? Or does the 4th, 5th and 6th gen make any difference? All gens at bestbuy have Intel graphics and don't tell me the name of the GPU. I'd love to have one built but its much faster and easier for me to get one at bestbuy.
Is there any GPU very similar to the GTX 960? And do you know which gen i3 works best? Or does the 4th, 5th and 6th gen make any difference? All gens at bestbuy have Intel graphics and don't tell me the name of the GPU. I'd love to have one built but its much faster and easier for me to get one at bestbuy.
What sort of price range are you thinking of when you say "cheap"? Nothing cheap at BestBuy is going to run shaders very well (if at all), or any games at all for that matter.
$350-$500 after tax. Pretty sure an 8GB AMD A10-7800 3.5 Ghtz DDR3 RAM will run games easily. It's the shaders I'm wanting to work right. The GPU is a Radeon R7(which R7 it doesn't say), powered by 4GB dedicated/discrete video memory to quickly render high-quality images for videos and games. I'm worried about it's energy as well it's not energy star certified.
$350-$500 after tax. Pretty sure an 8GB AMD A10-7800 3.5 Ghtz DDR3 RAM will run games easily. It's the shaders I'm wanting to work right. The GPU is a Radeon R7(which R7 it doesn't say), powered by 4GB dedicated/discrete video memory to quickly render high-quality images for videos and games. I'm worried about it's energy as well it's not energy star certified.
Nope. Not going to happen.
Any integrated GPU is not going to run shaders well at all. If you want a prebuilt, you're looking at a minimum of $800-$1000 to run Minecraft w/ shaders
Is that so? Then why is it that this guy made this video and got them to work on his integrated GPU?
Look at the description.
He is using a AMD Radeon R7 260x 2gb, i copied and pasted that too.
As far as I know, shadders work better on dedicated GPU's. I never tested any of this. You could run low shaders on Skylake or something though. Or you could just get a 960 and be set to run high shaders, or you could build a computer, use the intergrated graghics (if you plan on doing just minecraft) and save up for a 960 or what ever if you can't afford it.
I dunno that I'll ever figure out what PC to get. This shader stuff is a bit complicated to understand. I may just have to find a pure-T minecraft nerd.
I dunno that I'll ever figure out what PC to get. This shader stuff is a bit complicated to understand. I may just have to find a pure-T minecraft nerd.
Keep in mind, just about every one I know who used shaders didn't keep them installed. Shaders look cool for a little bit, but after a while they get in the way.
Also it depends on what version of Kuda (Lite, Medium, or Ultra) you want to run. Ultra Shaders will not run on a $500 PC, but Lite and Medium might run alright.
The GTX 950 is pretty much the same pricepoint as a 260X, but has much better performance. Nvidia GPUs seem to be better at running shaders too. Better GPU = better shaders performance, no way around it. If you were happy playing Minecraft without shaders, an AMD A10 would probably get you by.
Still much better value than buying literally anything at BestBuy, even if you pay someone $50-100 to put the thing together.
You could run low shaders on Skylake or something though.
Most shaders tend to not run on Intel HD Graphics at all, there are a select few that are designed to work with them, but they generally aren't as good as the proper shader packs.
A dedicated GPU for shaders is a must, AMD APUs will 'run' them, but don't have the grunt to run them at a playable level.
Oh and btw, that GTX 950 is 144.99 + tax(156.59) at Micro Center. Not 124.99.
After doing all this research for only 3 days of my life, I've come to the realization that buying a PC is just not worth all this. I think I'll just get a new texture pack on Minecraft 360. Save $1000 and stick with my console games. I'll wait for these GPU's to be 5 more years old and get em for like $50.
Oh and btw, that GTX 950 is 144.99 + tax(156.59) at Micro Center. Not 124.99.
After doing all this research for only 3 days of my life, I've come to the realization that buying a PC is just not worth all this. I think I'll just get a new texture pack on Minecraft 360. Save $1000 and stick with my console games. I'll wait for these GPU's to be 5 more years old and get em for like $50.
Or you could learn to build a PC instead of buying bestbuy crap.
I'm pretty positive I could build a PC. It's the selection of GPU's and CPU's out there that's making me insane. I basically want the perfect combination with zero regrets when it comes to 1080 performance in most games. And I'm an oldschool PC gamer. I wanna be able to play PC games from literally the 90's and 2000's on my PC. I won't play dragon age inquisition most likely, I just wanna make sure I buy a PC that can run it around 20-35 fps in high settings. Then I'm set for most other games and easily old school games. If you can tell me a build that runs old school games and dragon age inquisition in 1080p at 20-35 fps on high, by all means, let me know. I'm also wondering which I should use, windows 8 or 10. And how do you get 8 or 10 onto the built PC?
I'm pretty positive I could build a PC. It's the selection of GPU's and CPU's out there that's making me insane. I basically want the perfect combination with zero regrets when it comes to 1080 performance in most games.
And that's exactly why building a PC is perfect. YOU can have any combination of CPUs and GPUs you want (mostly), and unlike prebuilts, you can fine-tune your build.
And I'm an oldschool PC gamer. I wanna be able to play PC games from literally the 90's and 2000's on my PC. I won't play dragon age inquisition most likely, I just wanna make sure I buy a PC that can run it around 20-35 fps in high settings. Then I'm set for most other games and easily old school games. If you can tell me a build that runs old school games and dragon age inquisition in 1080p at 20-35 fps on high, by all means, let me know.
An budget i3 + GTX 750 Ti or GTX 950 will easily run Dragon Age Inquisition at 30 Fps on High settings, and will run most games pretty well. Even minecraft with shaders should run pretty good (not amazingly, but playable)
I'm also wondering which I should use, windows 8 or 10. And how do you get 8 or 10 onto the built PC?
It's mostly personal preference, but I'd go with Windows 10 just because it's newer. The easiest way is to buy a hard copy of Windows 10, and just install a CD/DVD Writer into the computer. Then throw the windows disk in and let it install. There are ways to get windows for free on a flash drive, I'm not going to discuss it though (if you wanna learn, google it)
This build is way faster than any PC you can get from best buy under $800-1000
If you want to install windows from a disk, you will need a $15 optical drive and a $85 copy of Windows. Or you can find Windows keys for cheaper or even free in other places, you just gotta do some research.
Nice, I like that build. And cheaper too. What do you think of this one? It's my first build ever. $475 after rebates... http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YZrQ8d
All suggestions and advice is greatly appreciated. A little lag is fine. Just not tremendous lag. Lowest PC specifications that run KUDA shaders is what I'm looking for.
Intel i3 and a GTX 960 would run Kuda shaders pretty well.
My rig gets around 60-120 fps with most shaderpacks
Gaming PC Specs - Intel i5-2500K ~ ASUS P8P67M-Pro ~ Hyper 212+ ~ MSI GTX 970 OC ~ 8GB DDR3 Ram ~ 250GB Samsung EVO 850 ~ 500GB HardDrive ~ XFX 550w PSU ~ Fractal Core 1000 ~ Windows 8.1 ~ Samsung P2350 1080p Soon upgrading to GTX 1080/R9 490X + 1440p 144Hz
Macbook Pro 15" Retina - Intel i7 ~ 8GB Ram ~ Nvidia GT 650M ~ 256GB SSD ~ 2880 by 1800 Screen <3
OCed G3258, H81, GTX 950/960, 4GB RAM, some random HDD/SSD + PSU & case. Or no case. $350ish USD.
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I got a 960 and if I'm not mistaken that's one of the easier packs to run. And the only one that wouldn't run on high(As high as needed, not 32 render or anything) is SEUS Ultra. And it ran, but with lag spikes. Kuda should run perfectly fine on a 960 even with the graphics turned up a good amount.
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Is there any GPU very similar to the GTX 960? And do you know which gen i3 works best? Or does the 4th, 5th and 6th gen make any difference? All gens at bestbuy have Intel graphics and don't tell me the name of the GPU. I'd love to have one built but its much faster and easier for me to get one at bestbuy.
What sort of price range are you thinking of when you say "cheap"? Nothing cheap at BestBuy is going to run shaders very well (if at all), or any games at all for that matter.
K95 RGB / Logitech G502 PS / Alienware AW3418DW / ViewSonic XG2703-GS / Sennheiser HD 598
$350-$500 after tax. Pretty sure an 8GB AMD A10-7800 3.5 Ghtz DDR3 RAM will run games easily. It's the shaders I'm wanting to work right. The GPU is a Radeon R7(which R7 it doesn't say), powered by 4GB dedicated/discrete video memory to quickly render high-quality images for videos and games. I'm worried about it's energy as well it's not energy star certified.
Nope. Not going to happen.
Any integrated GPU is not going to run shaders well at all. If you want a prebuilt, you're looking at a minimum of $800-$1000 to run Minecraft w/ shaders
Gaming PC Specs - Intel i5-2500K ~ ASUS P8P67M-Pro ~ Hyper 212+ ~ MSI GTX 970 OC ~ 8GB DDR3 Ram ~ 250GB Samsung EVO 850 ~ 500GB HardDrive ~ XFX 550w PSU ~ Fractal Core 1000 ~ Windows 8.1 ~ Samsung P2350 1080p Soon upgrading to GTX 1080/R9 490X + 1440p 144Hz
Macbook Pro 15" Retina - Intel i7 ~ 8GB Ram ~ Nvidia GT 650M ~ 256GB SSD ~ 2880 by 1800 Screen <3
Is that so? Then why is it that this guy made this video and got them to work on his integrated GPU?
Look at the description.
He is using a AMD Radeon R7 260x 2gb, i copied and pasted that too.
As far as I know, shadders work better on dedicated GPU's. I never tested any of this. You could run low shaders on Skylake or something though. Or you could just get a 960 and be set to run high shaders, or you could build a computer, use the intergrated graghics (if you plan on doing just minecraft) and save up for a 960 or what ever if you can't afford it.
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I dunno that I'll ever figure out what PC to get. This shader stuff is a bit complicated to understand. I may just have to find a pure-T minecraft nerd.
Keep in mind, just about every one I know who used shaders didn't keep them installed. Shaders look cool for a little bit, but after a while they get in the way.
Also it depends on what version of Kuda (Lite, Medium, or Ultra) you want to run. Ultra Shaders will not run on a $500 PC, but Lite and Medium might run alright.
Gaming PC Specs - Intel i5-2500K ~ ASUS P8P67M-Pro ~ Hyper 212+ ~ MSI GTX 970 OC ~ 8GB DDR3 Ram ~ 250GB Samsung EVO 850 ~ 500GB HardDrive ~ XFX 550w PSU ~ Fractal Core 1000 ~ Windows 8.1 ~ Samsung P2350 1080p Soon upgrading to GTX 1080/R9 490X + 1440p 144Hz
Macbook Pro 15" Retina - Intel i7 ~ 8GB Ram ~ Nvidia GT 650M ~ 256GB SSD ~ 2880 by 1800 Screen <3
From the description:
For perspective:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($122.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($17.89 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.49 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card ($124.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Fractal Design Core 1100 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($28.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $419.11
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-20 23:48 EDT-0400
The GTX 950 is pretty much the same pricepoint as a 260X, but has much better performance. Nvidia GPUs seem to be better at running shaders too. Better GPU = better shaders performance, no way around it. If you were happy playing Minecraft without shaders, an AMD A10 would probably get you by.
Still much better value than buying literally anything at BestBuy, even if you pay someone $50-100 to put the thing together.
Most shaders tend to not run on Intel HD Graphics at all, there are a select few that are designed to work with them, but they generally aren't as good as the proper shader packs.
A dedicated GPU for shaders is a must, AMD APUs will 'run' them, but don't have the grunt to run them at a playable level.
K95 RGB / Logitech G502 PS / Alienware AW3418DW / ViewSonic XG2703-GS / Sennheiser HD 598
@_Xiae Based on your response, tell me what's wrong with this PC... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cybertronpc-borg-q-desktop-amd-fx-series-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-blue/4848822.p?id=bb4848822&skuId=4848822
Nvm, I think I see now. Here's a comparison that explains it. http://www.game-debate.com/gpu/index.php?gid=2455&gid2=935&compare=geforce-gtx-950-2gb-vs-geforce-gt-610
Oh and btw, that GTX 950 is 144.99 + tax(156.59) at Micro Center. Not 124.99.
After doing all this research for only 3 days of my life, I've come to the realization that buying a PC is just not worth all this. I think I'll just get a new texture pack on Minecraft 360. Save $1000 and stick with my console games. I'll wait for these GPU's to be 5 more years old and get em for like $50.
Or you could learn to build a PC instead of buying bestbuy crap.
Gaming PC Specs - Intel i5-2500K ~ ASUS P8P67M-Pro ~ Hyper 212+ ~ MSI GTX 970 OC ~ 8GB DDR3 Ram ~ 250GB Samsung EVO 850 ~ 500GB HardDrive ~ XFX 550w PSU ~ Fractal Core 1000 ~ Windows 8.1 ~ Samsung P2350 1080p Soon upgrading to GTX 1080/R9 490X + 1440p 144Hz
Macbook Pro 15" Retina - Intel i7 ~ 8GB Ram ~ Nvidia GT 650M ~ 256GB SSD ~ 2880 by 1800 Screen <3
I'm pretty positive I could build a PC. It's the selection of GPU's and CPU's out there that's making me insane. I basically want the perfect combination with zero regrets when it comes to 1080 performance in most games. And I'm an oldschool PC gamer. I wanna be able to play PC games from literally the 90's and 2000's on my PC. I won't play dragon age inquisition most likely, I just wanna make sure I buy a PC that can run it around 20-35 fps in high settings. Then I'm set for most other games and easily old school games. If you can tell me a build that runs old school games and dragon age inquisition in 1080p at 20-35 fps on high, by all means, let me know. I'm also wondering which I should use, windows 8 or 10. And how do you get 8 or 10 onto the built PC?
And that's exactly why building a PC is perfect. YOU can have any combination of CPUs and GPUs you want (mostly), and unlike prebuilts, you can fine-tune your build.
An budget i3 + GTX 750 Ti or GTX 950 will easily run Dragon Age Inquisition at 30 Fps on High settings, and will run most games pretty well. Even minecraft with shaders should run pretty good (not amazingly, but playable)
It's mostly personal preference, but I'd go with Windows 10 just because it's newer. The easiest way is to buy a hard copy of Windows 10, and just install a CD/DVD Writer into the computer. Then throw the windows disk in and let it install. There are ways to get windows for free on a flash drive, I'm not going to discuss it though (if you wanna learn, google it)
Here's a good build which will runs most games quite well: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.78 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($44.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: Team Elite 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 950 2GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.89 @ Newegg)
Total: $422.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-03-22 19:17 EDT-0400
This build is way faster than any PC you can get from best buy under $800-1000
If you want to install windows from a disk, you will need a $15 optical drive and a $85 copy of Windows. Or you can find Windows keys for cheaper or even free in other places, you just gotta do some research.
Gaming PC Specs - Intel i5-2500K ~ ASUS P8P67M-Pro ~ Hyper 212+ ~ MSI GTX 970 OC ~ 8GB DDR3 Ram ~ 250GB Samsung EVO 850 ~ 500GB HardDrive ~ XFX 550w PSU ~ Fractal Core 1000 ~ Windows 8.1 ~ Samsung P2350 1080p Soon upgrading to GTX 1080/R9 490X + 1440p 144Hz
Macbook Pro 15" Retina - Intel i7 ~ 8GB Ram ~ Nvidia GT 650M ~ 256GB SSD ~ 2880 by 1800 Screen <3
Nice, I like that build. And cheaper too. What do you think of this one? It's my first build ever. $475 after rebates... http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YZrQ8d