i7 3770 can be easily replaced by the i7 2600k.
OC the 2600k and bam, better performance. Not to mention that the 3770 runs hotter
If they run a lot of servers they should run the IvyBridge ones as they use less power and produce less heat.
Not to mention servers need to run stable so overclocking should not be done.
If they run a lot of servers they should run the IvyBridge ones as they use less power and produce less heat.
Not to mention servers need to run stable so overclocking should not be done.
Not everything is always possible, I am curious specifically about i7 3770, It out performs the 1270 correct?
Not everything is always possible, I am curious specifically about i7 3770, It out performs the 1270 correct?
Yes the I7 will be a decent amount faster especially with turbo it can push higher performance when demand gets high.
That and its more energy efficient saving you money assuming you run the hosting company in your signature.
Unfortunately the I7 does not support ECC ram and it is good for server stability,
Yes the I7 will be a decent amount faster especially with turbo it can push higher performance when demand gets high.
That and its more energy efficient saving you money assuming you run the hosting company in your signature.
Unfortunately the I7 does not support ECC ram and it is good for server stability,
The reason i am asking, We was offered quite a good deal with these servers.
What ram does it use, and is it strong enough for Minecraft?
The only isue to your theory is that the 3770 gets better clock/performance than the 2600. The 2600 hits the magical it is pointless to go higher point at 4.5 GHz; whereas the 3770 hits that same point at 4.2 GHz, all while consuming less power.
What are you talking about?
There is no such thing as "the magical it is pointless to go higher point". Go as high as you can while keeping your temps and volts reasonable.
You clearly know very little when it comes to overclocking.
There is a point where the performance returns are very little compared to clock. On SNB, it happens to be at around 4.5 Ghz, on IB, it happens to be at around 4.2 GHz.. It isn't a question about overclocking, it is a question of how much raw processing power can be used before it gets pointless.
In other words you mean until you start running into bottlenecks.
Modern GPUs will bottleneck 2500(k)s at stock speeds in most games. That doesn't mean that you won't start seeing less and less performance per clock as you OC higher, you just won't have use for it in many situations.
You may not see any performance difference in games, but in other things there will be a difference. This means that there is in fact no point "where it is pointless to go higher", as there will be some application out there that needs some serious CPU horsepower (Usually content-creation related applications).
Anyway, I read an article a while ago that stated that even if there was no bottlneck, you would see minimal to nonexistant performance gains after 4.5 GHz, and pairing that up with another article I read, stating that due to the performance per clock ratio, a 4.2-4.3 IB is the same as a 4.5 SNB.
Also, an Anandtech article comparing two systems, one with a 2700K @ 4.6 GHz and one with a 3770K @ 4.4 Ghz said the 3770K was slightly faster. (CPU-dependent benchmark).
Well of course IB has slightly higher performance per clock. I'm just saying that as long as your temps are good and your voltages are low enough, you should be seeing performance improvements in programs that rely heavily on the CPU.
Intel Core line was designed for gaming, while Intel Xeon line was designed for server use, you should not use Xeon for gaming and/or Core for servers.
Core CPUs are not meant to be used 24/7, all the days of the month, the whole year at 100% load, but Xeon CPUs are, thats why they have lower clock speeds.
Intel Core line was designed for gaming, while Intel Xeon line was designed for server use, you should not use Xeon for gaming and/or Core for servers.
Core CPUs are not meant to be used 24/7, all the days of the month, the whole year at 100% load, but Xeon CPUs are, thats why they have lower clock speeds.
They use the same core one is not better designed for server use other then the support for ECC ram. They have lower clock speeds because they generally have more cores in the same package and they run at lower clock speeds because most server work loads are highly threaded so more cores and lower clock speeds is better. Server CPUs tend to be shoved into small racks so heat production is very important.
ECC ram is probably not super important for MC most servers run without it.
However you might consider offering enterprise servers that are more expensive that have ECC ram for people who run large servers.
I don't think I did. What you're saying makes absolutely no sense.
There isn't a point where you will get diminishing performance:clock ratio. You will just run into heat and stability issues, stopping you from going any further.
In other words you mean until you start running into bottlenecks.
Modern GPUs will bottleneck 2500(k)s at stock speeds in most games. That doesn't mean that you won't start seeing less and less performance per clock as you OC higher, you just won't have use for it in many situations.
You may not see any performance difference in games, but in other things there will be a difference. This means that there is in fact no point "where it is pointless to go higher", as there will be some application out there that needs some serious CPU horsepower (Usually content-creation related applications).
Strongly depends on the game itself. Battlefield 3 could probably run on a potato as far as CPU is concerned. Skyrim, on the other hand, could run on SLI 690's but if the CPU isn't powerful enough you'll still end up with low performance. The same goes more or less for Starcraft 2.
Everything i saw, showed it was more powerful then the Xeon 1270.
Would switching our servers to Intel Core i7 3770 over 1270 be good?
How does the Intel Core i7 3770 handle Minecraft?
OC the 2600k and bam, better performance. Not to mention that the 3770 runs hotter
If they run a lot of servers they should run the IvyBridge ones as they use less power and produce less heat.
Not to mention servers need to run stable so overclocking should not be done.
Not everything is always possible, I am curious specifically about i7 3770, It out performs the 1270 correct?
Yes the I7 will be a decent amount faster especially with turbo it can push higher performance when demand gets high.
That and its more energy efficient saving you money assuming you run the hosting company in your signature.
Unfortunately the I7 does not support ECC ram and it is good for server stability,
The reason i am asking, We was offered quite a good deal with these servers.
What ram does it use, and is it strong enough for Minecraft?
ECC ram is Error correcting ram it helps prevent corruption.
The I7 uses normal ram.
What are you talking about?
There is no such thing as "the magical it is pointless to go higher point". Go as high as you can while keeping your temps and volts reasonable.
You clearly know very little when it comes to overclocking.
In other words you mean until you start running into bottlenecks.
Modern GPUs will bottleneck 2500(k)s at stock speeds in most games. That doesn't mean that you won't start seeing less and less performance per clock as you OC higher, you just won't have use for it in many situations.
You may not see any performance difference in games, but in other things there will be a difference. This means that there is in fact no point "where it is pointless to go higher", as there will be some application out there that needs some serious CPU horsepower (Usually content-creation related applications).
Well of course IB has slightly higher performance per clock. I'm just saying that as long as your temps are good and your voltages are low enough, you should be seeing performance improvements in programs that rely heavily on the CPU.
Core CPUs are not meant to be used 24/7, all the days of the month, the whole year at 100% load, but Xeon CPUs are, thats why they have lower clock speeds.
They use the same core one is not better designed for server use other then the support for ECC ram. They have lower clock speeds because they generally have more cores in the same package and they run at lower clock speeds because most server work loads are highly threaded so more cores and lower clock speeds is better. Server CPUs tend to be shoved into small racks so heat production is very important.
ECC ram is probably not super important for MC most servers run without it.
However you might consider offering enterprise servers that are more expensive that have ECC ram for people who run large servers.
I don't think I did. What you're saying makes absolutely no sense.
There isn't a point where you will get diminishing performance:clock ratio. You will just run into heat and stability issues, stopping you from going any further.
SLI 690s doesn't bottleneck the i5 2500k1
Strongly depends on the game itself. Battlefield 3 could probably run on a potato as far as CPU is concerned. Skyrim, on the other hand, could run on SLI 690's but if the CPU isn't powerful enough you'll still end up with low performance. The same goes more or less for Starcraft 2.
Really does depend on the game. And by "modern" I didn't mean overkill