For those of you who know I like Macs, no. I won't be getting another. I've grown sick of certain parts and have decided that it will be my everyday casual. Instead, I've decided to build a computer! Windows, for that matter. Anyway... I don't really know too much about building them, since it will be my first build. So that stinks. Either way...
I am getting everything off of Newegg, because my dad said to get everything off one website would be easier. I agree.
My budget is around 2500$, which is what I have come out to after adding in some nice technology. He is giving me 1500, I am contributing 800 and will be paying for whatever else I want/need.
Thats the hardware side... I can't really tell, I've tried checking, but are there any incompatibilities between PSU and other things? Or Mobo compatibility? I have checked, and I should be fine with GPU, CPU, RAM, Harddrives... That stuff. Also, should I get a sound card? This one has built in sound, but will it sound okay? I will be using headphones... Listed below.
I do check these things for compatibility, but are there any suggestions? Maybe an incompatibility? I think the PSU might be wrong, but it was the best wattage I could get for an ATX motherboard.
Any ideas, suggestions, etc.? Will this run1?!?
Btw, the total price of the cart, full of all that junk, totaled $2,364.88. Building computers IS cheap!
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Well you're going to be running dual channel memory, so I suggest 4 x 2GB. I'm not sure how good that PSU is, but I personnaly prefer the Cosair PSUs.
Unless you love RAZER and have used that keyboard before without incident, I would choose a different keyboard. I've experienced major issues with that exact model, and have seen someone else having the same problems with it as well. Most notably, keys randomly stop working for indeterminant periods of time. Also, the media touch buttons are crap.
What are you using it for?
Case: get a cooler master haf series or a Nzxt phantom. Other cooler masters and Nzxt ones are fine too. You have a choice on this though
CPU: if you are doing video editing this is a good choice. I would recommend getting the K edition so you can overclock.
gpu: don't get that. You won't use it for anything other than on a monitor with a resolution higher than 1920x1080. Get a 6970.
Mobo: get the asrock extreme4 (ready for the as rock haters) or get the MSI P67A-G45 instead.
RAM: don't get 6. 4 or 8
SSD: get either a ocz vertex 3 or the vertex 2
Psu: corsair enthusiast series
Od: good to me
As for the "acessories" that is up to you. This build will be cheaper, a lot more efficient (in terms of power and money spent), and you won't have to say goodbye to that precious GTX 580 when the next sturdy flagship (screw the GTX 590) arrives. Always think ahead of your plans. Also, you could possibly pick a Corsair HX 650W if you want to. You could also choose a GTX 460 or a 6970 if you would want to, but i'd stick to the 6950 for now. You never know what AMD or Nvidia will throw out in the future.
Only things I could add is maybe change the PSU to say a 850W Corsair since Corsair's are generally the most reliable PSUs out there. Change the Corsair SSDs to OCZ Vertex 3s. As for the keyboard, I'm not a fan of Razer's keyboards not even their mechanical BlackWidow ones, the Steelseries 7G or 6Gv2 are much better keyboards. Also like the others said, 4GB of RAM or 8GB.
Only things I could add is maybe change the PSU to say a 850W Corsair since Corsair's are generally the most reliable PSUs out there. Change the Corsair SSDs to OCZ Vertex 3s. As for the keyboard, I'm not a fan of Razer's keyboards not even their mechanical BlackWidow ones, the Steelseries 7G or 6Gv2 are much better keyboards. Also like the others said, 4GB of RAM or 8GB.
Okay, taking some suggestions from you guys, I've changed the setup and still made it meet my requirements.
I need around 6 SATA ports, because I'm inheriting my dad's old old WD harddrives. I would just sell them, but it's 3 75GB @ 10,000RPM. And a 500GB@7200RPM. The SSD is just for games and OS. And one more for later expansion. The big harddrive is space, and the 75GBs are gonna be for... some... thing...? Should I sell 'em? Where could I sell 'em?
i7-2600k can be overclocked to max (over 5Ghz) with air, though you need cooler like noctua nh-d14.
Also, you don't need P67 mobo if you're getting the normal i7 2600.
Are you getting two of those GPU's like I suggested or just one?
SLI means multiple GPU configuration. The mobo will work with only one too, of course.
Newegg is full of sli/crossfire ready power supplies, so just get something better brand name one. The sli/crossfire is just there to say that it can handle the load of multiple graphics cards. Even if some brand name 600W+ power supply wouldn't have that reading on it's specs, it don't mean that it can't handle it.
Oh, really? No damage? If so, I guess I'll get the K-series. But is this word-of-mouth, or personal experience? If its personal, how many fans? That fan there, though, that says it uses thermal compound, or liquid in addition to fan. Would my cases fans+the CPU fan be able to keep it safe?
As for the P67, I'd need that for overclock?
Yeah, 2 of 'em. I checked, your right. They would be more powerful.
I know it would work with one, what I'm asking is if SLI is a software based thing or... I heard that a game requires support for dual cards. That if you don't have a working game, then you'll only use one card. Is that true, or does your computer treat it like 1 card? Or am I just mental and need to read more, and use more than one source?
Again, is this a personal experience thing, or no? I heard that the voltage (or Amps, I might be wrong) must be 30v (each card uses 15 or something?). Or something, it just needs to support more than one card.
The PSU... The P67 is an ATX, will an ATX12V work too? Also, if its 12V, will 2 GPUs be supported?
Btw, while we're talking, I wanna say thanks! I've always considered myself knowledgeable on computers, but being confronted with these new things and new terms (SLI, Power supply, actual GPU knowledge) has really made me both learn new things, and become confused. I owe you for helping, because somehow my knowledge of technology has surpassed that of my fathers.
Oh, really? No damage? If so, I guess I'll get the K-series. But is this word-of-mouth, or personal experience? If its personal, how many fans? That fan there, though, that says it uses thermal compound, or liquid in addition to fan. Would my cases fans+the CPU fan be able to keep it safe?
As for the P67, I'd need that for overclock?
No damage can be done to the cpu unless you use ridiculously high voltages, which will then fry your cpu. So just as long as the temps are fine then is the cpu too.
And no it's not personal, I haven't got that kind of money :sad.gif: :biggrin.gif: But this is well known fact, I've seen a lot of guys running i7-2600k with that cooler 5Ghz or above. i7-2600k will go 4 - 4,5Ghz easily atleast with noctua nh-d14. After that it starts to also depend about your ram quality etc. So you will get atleast 4,5Ghz with it but above that it will come more and more tricky.
This everything is just extra though. Even at normal clocks it is very very powerful cpu. After overclocking, it's ridiculously powerful cpu...
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I know it would work with one, what I'm asking is if SLI is a software based thing or... I heard that a game requires support for dual cards. That if you don't have a working game, then you'll only use one card. Is that true, or does your computer treat it like 1 card? Or am I just mental and need to read more, and use more than one source?
Again, is this a personal experience thing, or no? I heard that the voltage (or Amps, I might be wrong) must be 30v (each card uses 15 or something?). Or something, it just needs to support more than one card.
The PSU... The P67 is an ATX, will an ATX12V work too? Also, if its 12V, will 2 GPUs be supported?
To run two graphics cards in SLI, you just put them to the pci-e x16 ports and connect the SLI bridge or whatever it is. It comes with the GPU's. Look at this picture, it's between the two cards: http://www.hafeezcentre.pk/ads_images/1294393307_su82/hc129948187465.jpg
It's simple as that.
And yes, a minor amount of games might not support SLI. But I don't really know any these days games that wouldn't support it. And even if it won't, it will just use one of them so you don't need to plug off one of the cards I think.
Every brand name power supply above 700W will surely run it, don't stress about it. Even lower wattage ones should. But this is why you shouldn't buy cheap ones, the amps might be very strangely and the promised wattages totally ********.
ATX is just size standard, you're thinking it too complicately :tongue.gif: It means that P67 ATX mobo will fit in ATX size case and ATX power supply will fit in ATX case.
Alright. My only problem then is that I need to learn to install a fan. :sleep.gif: Where would I install it? Onto the CPU, or what? Just inside the case?
Also, the fan seems to be liquid cooled. Water, or what? I think I read that it was liquid nitrogen, or something expensive of the sort.
Alright. I see the SLI there. I thought it was the Mobo in the background... XD
Even if it isn't supported, then it should work fine. Still a good GPU.
I probably am thinking overcomplicated...
Edit: Reading it closely, I now notice it says its compatible with LGA1156 sockets, but not LGA1155, which is what the 2600k uses.
Also, it does use thermal compound. Will it work without it, or what?
Alright. My only problem then is that I need to learn to install a fan. :sleep.gif: Where would I install it? Onto the CPU, or what? Just inside the case?
Didn't really read the whole thread since its a buncha half a page posts, fan for what?
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Also, the fan seems to be liquid cooled. Water, or what? I think I read that it was liquid nitrogen, or something expensive of the sort.
Fans aren't liquid cooled, fans are a source of cooling for parts, or the inside of the case. Liquid cooling uses coolant and uses a seperate pump system to go between each part. Case fans just circulate air inside the case, fans on hardware actually draw heat off the part into the case. Liquid nitrogren is only used by people modding to try and see how cool they can get their system, you'll never find a normal coolant system using liquid nitrogen, that'd be dangerous and really expensive.
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Edit: Reading it closely, I now notice it says its compatible with LGA1156 sockets, but not LGA1155, which is what the 2600k uses.
I'm starting to think you're talking about a CPU fan, you don't need an aftermarket CPU fan unless you want one, CPU's automatically come with a fan in the packaging. You usually have to install them though, thats as simple as just sticking it on though. If it doesn't say it fits the right socket, it won't fit.
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Also, it does use thermal compound. Will it work without it, or what?
CPU's basically super explode without thermal compound, it comes pre-applied on the CPU stock fan, aftermarket fans you have to buy it yourself and put a bit on before you attach it.
Alright. My only problem then is that I need to learn to install a fan. :sleep.gif: Where would I install it? Onto the CPU, or what? Just inside the case?
Didn't really read the whole thread since its a buncha half a page posts, fan for what?
He gave me the name of this fan, and it uses some kinda liquid. I also want to know if its CPU mounted or case mounted, but I think it said CPU.
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Also, the fan seems to be liquid cooled. Water, or what? I think I read that it was liquid nitrogen, or something expensive of the sort.
Fans aren't liquid cooled, fans are a source of cooling for parts, or the inside of the case. Liquid cooling uses coolant and uses a seperate pump system to go between each part. Case fans just circulate air inside the case, fans on hardware actually draw heat off the part into the case. Liquid nitrogren is only used by people modding to try and see how cool they can get their system, you'll never find a normal coolant system using liquid nitrogen, that'd be dangerous and really expensive.
Quoted from Neweggs description:
NT-H1 Thermal Compound Noctua's much-acclaimed NT-H1 is a well proven pro-grade TIM solution that provides minimum thermal resistance, excellent ease-of-use and outstanding reliability
Not nitrogen, I just don't know what liquid it is, but if I do need a liquid, would I need refills or no? Or am I mental?
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Edit: Reading it closely, I now notice it says its compatible with LGA1156 sockets, but not LGA1155, which is what the 2600k uses.
I'm starting to think you're talking about a CPU fan, you don't need an aftermarket CPU fan unless you want one, CPU's automatically come with a fan in the packaging. You usually have to install them though, thats as simple as just sticking it on though. If it doesn't say it fits the right socket, it won't fit.
I know they have a fan, but I'm getting the i7-2600k, which I have decided to then overclock, but the amount of heat it generates would need a more advanced fan. Also, it uses an LGA1155 slot, and if it doesn't, I need to completely re-research my computer.
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Also, it does use thermal compound. Will it work without it, or what?
CPU's basically super explode without thermal compound, it comes pre-applied on the CPU stock fan, aftermarket fans you have to buy it yourself and put a bit on before you attach it.
He gave me the name of this fan, and it uses some kinda liquid. I also want to know if its CPU mounted or case mounted, but I think it said CPU.
Well Corsair does sell a small radiator + CPU cooler that alot of people use, it could be that, but I'd have to see a link to be sure(though, referring to below, i think you're just getting a regular air fan mixed up with liquid cooling.)
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Quoted from Neweggs description:
NT-H1 Thermal Compound Noctua's much-acclaimed NT-H1 is a well proven pro-grade TIM solution that provides minimum thermal resistance, excellent ease-of-use and outstanding reliability
Not nitrogen, I just don't know what liquid it is, but if I do need a liquid, would I need refills or no? Or am I mental?
I think you're getting a bit mixed up here, thermal compound(thermal grease) is sort of like putty, it's a ceramic or silicone paste that you put a little dab on, on a heat plate that's on the bottom of the fan, it basically touches the top of the CPU, and the thermal paste causes the heat from the CPU to transfer into the plate and onto the heat sinks, which then gets dissipated with the actual fan. It's sort of like a car, as i said it comes pre-applied on the bottom of a stock CPU fans, it usually has a little plastic cover over it to protect it until you set it atop the CPU.
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I know they have a fan, but I'm getting the i7-2600k, which I have decided to then overclock, but the amount of heat it generates would need a more advanced fan. Also, it uses an LGA1155 slot, and if it doesn't, I need to completely re-research my computer.
Sandy bridge CPU's use 1155 yes, I was saying if the fan says it isn't made for that slot, the mounting bracket won't fit, all of them are different sizes. On that note you don't NEED an aftermarket fan to overclock a CPU, the i7 especially overclocks well with it's stock fan.
He gave me the name of this fan, and it uses some kinda liquid. I also want to know if its CPU mounted or case mounted, but I think it said CPU.
Well Corsair does sell a small radiator + CPU cooler that alot of people use, it could be that, but I'd have to see a link to be sure(though, referring to below, i think you're just getting a regular air fan mixed up with liquid cooling.)
Um... This fan.Noctua Nh-D14, and it says...
NT-H1 Thermal Compound Noctua's much-acclaimed NT-H1 is a well proven pro-grade TIM solution that provides minimum thermal resistance, excellent ease-of-use and outstanding reliability.
Is that on there already?
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Quoted from Neweggs description:
NT-H1 Thermal Compound Noctua's much-acclaimed NT-H1 is a well proven pro-grade TIM solution that provides minimum thermal resistance, excellent ease-of-use and outstanding reliability
Not nitrogen, I just don't know what liquid it is, but if I do need a liquid, would I need refills or no? Or am I mental?
I think you're getting a bit mixed up here, thermal compound(thermal grease) is sort of like putty, it's a ceramic or silicone paste that you put a little dab on, on a heat plate that's on the bottom of the fan, it basically touches the top of the CPU, and the thermal paste causes the heat from the CPU to transfer into the plate and onto the heat sinks, which then gets dissipated with the actual fan. It's sort of like a car, as i said it comes pre-applied on the bottom of a stock CPU fans, it usually has a little plastic cover over it to protect it until you set it atop the CPU.
Oh, I'm still saying, some kinda thermal compound that would be colder than typically liquids and stuff... Nevermind.
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I know they have a fan, but I'm getting the i7-2600k, which I have decided to then overclock, but the amount of heat it generates would need a more advanced fan. Also, it uses an LGA1155 slot, and if it doesn't, I need to completely re-research my computer.
Sandy bridge CPU's use 1155 yes, I was saying if the fan says it isn't made for that slot, the mounting bracket won't fit, all of them are different sizes. On that note you don't NEED an aftermarket fan to overclock a CPU, the i7 especially overclocks well with it's stock fan.
Okay, but he said that fan would work with it... _j03_, come back!! :sad.gif:
Um... This fan.Noctua Nh-D14, and it says...
NT-H1 Thermal Compound Noctua's much-acclaimed NT-H1 is a well proven pro-grade TIM solution that provides minimum thermal resistance, excellent ease-of-use and outstanding reliability.
Is that on there already?
Yes, that's just them showing off their fancy thermal compound that is pre-applied already i guess, it'l be pretty obvious when you get the fan if there's thermal compound on it, it's like a white or gray-ish putty on a little metal square at the base.
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Oh, I'm still saying, some kinda thermal compound that would be colder than typically liquids and stuff... Nevermind.
It isn't cold at all, it just has very little thermal resistance, aka it means heat goes through it really easy, easier then air. Without thermal compound the heat doesn't transfer to the heat sinks fast enough, so your CPU overheats and fries itself. The stuff actually gets really hot, not that you'd ever see it or touch it or anything.
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Okay, but he said that fan would work with it... _j03_, come back!! :sad.gif:
Sorry i forgot to mention that 1155 sockets fit 1156 fans, the mounting brackets are the same as far as i know. Most fans list both of them though, so when you said that it didn't list it, i figured that meant it didn't fit 1156 either. It says it does though, so it should fit fine.
Um... This fan.Noctua Nh-D14, and it says...
NT-H1 Thermal Compound Noctua's much-acclaimed NT-H1 is a well proven pro-grade TIM solution that provides minimum thermal resistance, excellent ease-of-use and outstanding reliability.
Is that on there already?
Yes, that's just them showing off their fancy thermal compound that is pre-applied already i guess, it'l be pretty obvious when you get the fan if there's thermal compound on it, it's like a white or gray-ish putty on a little metal square at the base.
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Oh, I'm still saying, some kinda thermal compound that would be colder than typically liquids and stuff... Nevermind.
It isn't cold at all, it just has very little thermal resistance, aka it means heat goes through it really easy, easier then air. Without thermal compound the heat doesn't transfer to the heat sinks fast enough, so your CPU overheats and fries itself. The stuff actually gets really hot, not that you'd ever see it or touch it or anything.
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Okay, but he said that fan would work with it... _j03_, come back!! :sad.gif:
Sorry i forgot to mention that 1155 sockets fit 1156 fans, the mounting brackets are the same as far as i know. Most fans list both of them though, so when you said that it didn't list it, i figured that meant it didn't fit 1156 either. It says it does though, so it should fit fine.
Alright. Well, most of that was alright.
But when I said thermal compound, I just meant some liquid through a tube that makes stuff colder than usual.
Alright, sweet.
Well, thanks. I guess I just need to make sure stuff is alright, and check it with my dad. And stuff... Last minute thangs.
Any comments about the accesories? Any tips for a camera, mic, the headset, anything?
But when I said thermal compound, I just meant some liquid through a tube that makes stuff colder than usual.
I really don't get why you keep repeating that one, i explained what thermal compound is. Coolant is what you're talking about, you use it in a liquid cooling system, but.. that's not at all related to what you've shown so far, unless I'm missing something.
1. You will never in your life use liquid nitrogen to cool a computer. There are exceptions but only if you're on an overclocking team and I don't believe you are.
2. Fans are mounted directly on the CPU
3. Thermal compound is a very sticky paste that goes on your CPU to transfer heat to the fan. You don't have to ever replace it unless you take off the fan. If your fan comes with thermal compound pre-applied then you're set
Sandy Bridge cpu's are very cool and don't require the same level of cooling that older CPU's do. Most of them will clock to very high speeds on air cooling alone. Liquid cooling would only make sense if you want to try for over 5ghz
I am getting everything off of Newegg, because my dad said to get everything off one website would be easier. I agree.
My budget is around 2500$, which is what I have come out to after adding in some nice technology. He is giving me 1500, I am contributing 800 and will be paying for whatever else I want/need.
On to the specs!
EDIT: New specs here!
Casing:
Thermaltake VL200L1W2Z NVIDIA Edition Black and Green Lining ATX Full Tower Gaming Computer Case w/ 2x 120mm Fan (Front & Rear), 1x Front Colorshift LED 120mm Fan, 1x Top Colorshift LED 200mm Fan, 1x Side Colorshift LED 230mm fan & 1x Delta
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600
GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Mobo: MSI P67A-GD55 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
RAM: G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ
Harddrive: Corsair Performance 3 Series CSSD-P3128GB2-BRKT 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
In addition, I am using my dad's old 3x75GB 10,000RPM HDDs and his 500GB@7,200RPM.
PSU: XCLIO STABLEPOWER 1000W 1000W ATX CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
Disc-Reader: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition, 1 User, 64-bit
Thats the hardware side... I can't really tell, I've tried checking, but are there any incompatibilities between PSU and other things? Or Mobo compatibility? I have checked, and I should be fine with GPU, CPU, RAM, Harddrives... That stuff. Also, should I get a sound card? This one has built in sound, but will it sound okay? I will be using headphones... Listed below.
Accesories! Woot, Accesorization!
Keyboard: RAZER Lycosa Black USB Wired Gaming Keyboard
Mouse: RAZER Mamba Black 7 Buttons USB Laser Gaming Mouse - Dual Mode Wired/Wireless Functionality
Headphones: Turtle Beach Ear Force PX5 Programmable Wireless Headset Dolby 7.1 Surround Sound with Bluetooth
I do check these things for compatibility, but are there any suggestions? Maybe an incompatibility? I think the PSU might be wrong, but it was the best wattage I could get for an ATX motherboard.
Any ideas, suggestions, etc.? Will this run1?!?
Btw, the total price of the cart, full of all that junk, totaled $2,364.88. Building computers IS cheap!
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Unless you love RAZER and have used that keyboard before without incident, I would choose a different keyboard. I've experienced major issues with that exact model, and have seen someone else having the same problems with it as well. Most notably, keys randomly stop working for indeterminant periods of time. Also, the media touch buttons are crap.
Case: get a cooler master haf series or a Nzxt phantom. Other cooler masters and Nzxt ones are fine too. You have a choice on this though
CPU: if you are doing video editing this is a good choice. I would recommend getting the K edition so you can overclock.
gpu: don't get that. You won't use it for anything other than on a monitor with a resolution higher than 1920x1080. Get a 6970.
Mobo: get the asrock extreme4 (ready for the as rock haters) or get the MSI P67A-G45 instead.
RAM: don't get 6. 4 or 8
SSD: get either a ocz vertex 3 or the vertex 2
Psu: corsair enthusiast series
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As for the "acessories" that is up to you. This build will be cheaper, a lot more efficient (in terms of power and money spent), and you won't have to say goodbye to that precious GTX 580 when the next sturdy flagship (screw the GTX 590) arrives. Always think ahead of your plans. Also, you could possibly pick a Corsair HX 650W if you want to. You could also choose a GTX 460 or a 6970 if you would want to, but i'd stick to the 6950 for now. You never know what AMD or Nvidia will throw out in the future.
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I need around 6 SATA ports, because I'm inheriting my dad's old old WD harddrives. I would just sell them, but it's 3 75GB @ 10,000RPM. And a 500GB@7200RPM. The SSD is just for games and OS. And one more for later expansion. The big harddrive is space, and the 75GBs are gonna be for... some... thing...? Should I sell 'em? Where could I sell 'em?
Casing: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red White Finish w/Red Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600
For those who said to get the K-series, I don't think I will... Its a bit more expensive, and to overclock would also require a better cooling system, like liquid, and I don't think I want something that complicated. I'm fine with that, I'll just upgrade in a few years. :tongue.gif:
Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
It features SLI support. However, doesn't a game need support for SLI, or no? Does the computer treat it as one graphics card?
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
SSD: Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
CD/DVD-ROM: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition, 1 User, 64-bit
PSU: XCLIO Goodpower 750W 750W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply
This was the best SLI Ready/ATX PSU I could get. You need higher Watts for an SLI system, and the rest of the system isn't exactly the most modest.
Other Addons:
Keyboard: Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard
Mouse: RAZER Mamba Black 7 Buttons USB Laser Gaming Mouse - Dual Mode Wired/Wireless Functionality
Camera: IMC ZB3005 2.0 M Effective Pixels USB 2.0 WebCam with Mic
Headset: Turtle Beach Ear Force PX5 Programmable Wireless Headset Dolby 7.1 Surround Sound with Bluetooth
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Oh, really? No damage? If so, I guess I'll get the K-series. But is this word-of-mouth, or personal experience? If its personal, how many fans? That fan there, though, that says it uses thermal compound, or liquid in addition to fan. Would my cases fans+the CPU fan be able to keep it safe?
As for the P67, I'd need that for overclock?
Yeah, 2 of 'em. I checked, your right. They would be more powerful.
I know it would work with one, what I'm asking is if SLI is a software based thing or... I heard that a game requires support for dual cards. That if you don't have a working game, then you'll only use one card. Is that true, or does your computer treat it like 1 card? Or am I just mental and need to read more, and use more than one source?
Again, is this a personal experience thing, or no? I heard that the voltage (or Amps, I might be wrong) must be 30v (each card uses 15 or something?). Or something, it just needs to support more than one card.
The PSU... The P67 is an ATX, will an ATX12V work too? Also, if its 12V, will 2 GPUs be supported?
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Alright. My only problem then is that I need to learn to install a fan. :sleep.gif: Where would I install it? Onto the CPU, or what? Just inside the case?
Also, the fan seems to be liquid cooled. Water, or what? I think I read that it was liquid nitrogen, or something expensive of the sort.
Alright. I see the SLI there. I thought it was the Mobo in the background... XD
Even if it isn't supported, then it should work fine. Still a good GPU.
I probably am thinking overcomplicated...
Edit: Reading it closely, I now notice it says its compatible with LGA1156 sockets, but not LGA1155, which is what the 2600k uses.
Also, it does use thermal compound. Will it work without it, or what?
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Didn't really read the whole thread since its a buncha half a page posts, fan for what?
Fans aren't liquid cooled, fans are a source of cooling for parts, or the inside of the case. Liquid cooling uses coolant and uses a seperate pump system to go between each part. Case fans just circulate air inside the case, fans on hardware actually draw heat off the part into the case. Liquid nitrogren is only used by people modding to try and see how cool they can get their system, you'll never find a normal coolant system using liquid nitrogen, that'd be dangerous and really expensive.
I'm starting to think you're talking about a CPU fan, you don't need an aftermarket CPU fan unless you want one, CPU's automatically come with a fan in the packaging. You usually have to install them though, thats as simple as just sticking it on though. If it doesn't say it fits the right socket, it won't fit.
CPU's basically super explode without thermal compound, it comes pre-applied on the CPU stock fan, aftermarket fans you have to buy it yourself and put a bit on before you attach it.
He gave me the name of this fan, and it uses some kinda liquid. I also want to know if its CPU mounted or case mounted, but I think it said CPU.
Quoted from Neweggs description:
NT-H1 Thermal Compound Noctua's much-acclaimed NT-H1 is a well proven pro-grade TIM solution that provides minimum thermal resistance, excellent ease-of-use and outstanding reliability
Not nitrogen, I just don't know what liquid it is, but if I do need a liquid, would I need refills or no? Or am I mental?
I know they have a fan, but I'm getting the i7-2600k, which I have decided to then overclock, but the amount of heat it generates would need a more advanced fan. Also, it uses an LGA1155 slot, and if it doesn't, I need to completely re-research my computer.
I meant some liquid that is cold.
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Well Corsair does sell a small radiator + CPU cooler that alot of people use, it could be that, but I'd have to see a link to be sure(though, referring to below, i think you're just getting a regular air fan mixed up with liquid cooling.)
I think you're getting a bit mixed up here, thermal compound(thermal grease) is sort of like putty, it's a ceramic or silicone paste that you put a little dab on, on a heat plate that's on the bottom of the fan, it basically touches the top of the CPU, and the thermal paste causes the heat from the CPU to transfer into the plate and onto the heat sinks, which then gets dissipated with the actual fan. It's sort of like a car, as i said it comes pre-applied on the bottom of a stock CPU fans, it usually has a little plastic cover over it to protect it until you set it atop the CPU.
Sandy bridge CPU's use 1155 yes, I was saying if the fan says it isn't made for that slot, the mounting bracket won't fit, all of them are different sizes. On that note you don't NEED an aftermarket fan to overclock a CPU, the i7 especially overclocks well with it's stock fan.
I think what i said above answered this bit.
Um... This fan.Noctua Nh-D14, and it says...
NT-H1 Thermal Compound Noctua's much-acclaimed NT-H1 is a well proven pro-grade TIM solution that provides minimum thermal resistance, excellent ease-of-use and outstanding reliability.
Is that on there already?
Oh, I'm still saying, some kinda thermal compound that would be colder than typically liquids and stuff... Nevermind.
Okay, but he said that fan would work with it... _j03_, come back!! :sad.gif:
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Yes, that's just them showing off their fancy thermal compound that is pre-applied already i guess, it'l be pretty obvious when you get the fan if there's thermal compound on it, it's like a white or gray-ish putty on a little metal square at the base.
It isn't cold at all, it just has very little thermal resistance, aka it means heat goes through it really easy, easier then air. Without thermal compound the heat doesn't transfer to the heat sinks fast enough, so your CPU overheats and fries itself. The stuff actually gets really hot, not that you'd ever see it or touch it or anything.
Sorry i forgot to mention that 1155 sockets fit 1156 fans, the mounting brackets are the same as far as i know. Most fans list both of them though, so when you said that it didn't list it, i figured that meant it didn't fit 1156 either. It says it does though, so it should fit fine.
Alright. Well, most of that was alright.
But when I said thermal compound, I just meant some liquid through a tube that makes stuff colder than usual.
Alright, sweet.
Well, thanks. I guess I just need to make sure stuff is alright, and check it with my dad. And stuff... Last minute thangs.
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I really don't get why you keep repeating that one, i explained what thermal compound is. Coolant is what you're talking about, you use it in a liquid cooling system, but.. that's not at all related to what you've shown so far, unless I'm missing something.
1. You will never in your life use liquid nitrogen to cool a computer. There are exceptions but only if you're on an overclocking team and I don't believe you are.
2. Fans are mounted directly on the CPU
3. Thermal compound is a very sticky paste that goes on your CPU to transfer heat to the fan. You don't have to ever replace it unless you take off the fan. If your fan comes with thermal compound pre-applied then you're set
Sandy Bridge cpu's are very cool and don't require the same level of cooling that older CPU's do. Most of them will clock to very high speeds on air cooling alone. Liquid cooling would only make sense if you want to try for over 5ghz
Hm...
Next I'm gonna come back asking how to Overclock guys, be ready. :wink.gif:
I just kinda wish the Noctua lit up. :wink.gif:
Btw, coolant is what I meant.
I heard about a computer using liquid nitrogen, I was also like, 'Whattt!?!? Das gotta be da **** man! Some kinda server coolant, boy!"
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Casing: NZXT Phantom PHAN-001RD Red White Finish w/Red Trim Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Full Tower Computer Case
GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
I will be running dual cards, SLI.
CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
Fan for Overclocking the CPU: Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P67X-UD3-B3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
SSD: Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
CD/DVD-ROM: SONY Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1681S-0B - OEM
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Edition, 1 User, 64-bit
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
Other Addons:
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Mouse: RAZER Mamba Black 7 Buttons USB Laser Gaming Mouse - Dual Mode Wired/Wireless Functionality
Camera: IMC ZB3005 2.0 M Effective Pixels USB 2.0 WebCam with Mic
Headset: Turtle Beach Ear Force PX5 Programmable Wireless Headset Dolby 7.1 Surround Sound with Bluetooth
Surge Protector: BELKIN BE112230-08 8 Feet 12 Outlets 3780 Joules Surge Protector with Telephone and Coaxial Protection
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