So i looked at this fourm about what do you think is the most useless ore and many people said lapiz and emerald well emerald has some uses you can use it for villagers and beacons but what about lapiz and what do you think about it?
I might enjoy the game more if Lapis was more scarce. Not in terms of how often you find a vein, but in terms of how much lapis each block gives you. Once you find one Lapis vein, you basically have way more than enough to enchant everything. So after that, it feels useless. If each lapis block only gave 1 lapis, I would feel more excited to find it, since it would be more scarce.
Emeralds have use no matter how many you have since they can always be used for trading.
The people who were saying that lapis is useless were posting in a thread from 2012-2013, long before 1.8 made it a requirement for enchanting - I play in 1.6.4, before the new enchanting system, and have literally never used it myself despite having collected tens of thousands of blocks of it (not counting the blocks I put in the floor to mark the chests that store it), although I wouldn't call it the most useless ore, which would be emerald since emeralds themselves can be much more easily acquired by trading and there is no reason to collect the ore other than for the ore block itself (however, it is the only ore I collect with Silk Touch since emeralds themselves have very little value due to how easy it is to get them by trading). Even then, emerald ore can be useful for the situation where you have villagers which are only selling something but you can easily breed more (this is mostly only applicable to older versions, where villagers started with a single trade and you could not change their profession to get new trades).
Emerald ore is more useless, because it is so rare you may as well get it from villager trades.
At least with lapis you can get enough of it from mining that you don't have to keep going back to your local Cleric for some favours.
If it were up to me I'd just silk touch the emerald ore for decoration, because that's all the ore is good for.
Its rarity makes trading it too inefficient to bother with.
Emerald ore is more useless, because it is so rare you may as well get it from villager trades.
At least with lapis you can get enough of it from mining that you don't have to keep going back to your local Cleric for some favours.
If it were up to me I'd just silk touch the emerald ore for decoration, because that's all the ore is good for.
Its rarity makes trading it too inefficient to bother with.
you can get emeralds so easy by trading and well lapis is only used for enchanting which takes some time to get and emeralds are kinda hard to get unless your in a mountain biome and lapis well i never use lapis anyway unless i get an enchant table and after i get i can't find lapis.
you can get emeralds so easy by trading and well lapis is only used for enchanting which takes some time to get and emeralds are kinda hard to get unless your in a mountain biome and lapis well i never use lapis anyway unless i get an enchant table and after i get i can't find lapis.
Lapis is useful because the reasons you've just mentioned, and once you've dyed a Sheep in a blue color you can breed it into infinity and you'd end up with the same color unless it is bred with a Sheep of a different wool color, saving you further Lapis in return.
Also as you've said, it is used for enchanting, both for books and your tools/armour. And I'd add it can be used for making lapis blocks and has a unique texture making builds look more interesting.
Is Lapis hard to get? sort of, if you're mining for it. But it's still common enough that it's not worth complaining about, plus you can dupe it with Fortune. Personally I have a much easier time getting Redstone than Lapis, but because there aren't too many uses for Lapis it simply does not matter IMO. And because of villager trades it is renewable.
Lapis is useful because the reasons you've just mentioned, and once you've dyed a Sheep in a blue color you can breed it into infinity and you'd end up with the same color unless it is bred with a Sheep of a different wool color, saving you further Lapis in return.
well finding sheep is a pain for me i couldn't find a sheep i found one it was gray and never found one again i needed a white sheep to make a bed.
Also as you've said, it is used for enchanting, both for books and your tools/armour. And I'd add it can be used for making lapis blocks and has a unique texture making builds look more interesting.
it's just a blue block and well yea the texture is good and all but who wants thousands of blocks of lapis you will only need one well the only reason you want alot f blocks is because it will take up less space and you can also use it for sorting and stuff like that.
Is Lapis hard to get? sort of, if you're mining for it. But it's still common enough that it's not worth complaining about, plus you can dupe it with Fortune. Personally I have a much easier time getting Redstone than Lapis, but because there aren't too many uses for Lapis it simply does not matter IMO. And because of villager trades it is renewable.
i never really get fortune or silk touch to get more but should find it alot more if it's common i don't want to waste my time going in a ravine if there's no lapis to enchant with. I understand you points here but there's no reason getting lapis blocks unless you want more space and maybe fo storage that's all you would need it for.
well finding sheep is a pain for me i couldn't find a sheep i found one it was gray and never found one again i needed a white sheep to make a bed.
it's just a blue block and well yea the texture is good and all but who wants thousands of blocks of lapis you will only need one well the only reason you want alot f blocks is because it will take up less space and you can also use it for sorting and stuff like that.
i never really get fortune or silk touch to get more but should find it alot more if it's common i don't want to waste my time going in a ravine if there's no lapis to enchant with. I understand you points here but there's no reason getting lapis blocks unless you want more space and maybe fo storage that's all you would need it for.
It's nice that we're given the option, not everyone has as much need for a particular resource as the other, the old saying is one mans trash is another mans treasure.
I can think of builds where lapis blocks would go nicely with, such as hidden treasure rooms/vaults, temples with blue ceilings etc. I have a friend who loves silk touching their ores to decorate rooms. But you only have a need for it with enchanting.
Besides with the upcoming Caves and Cliffs update, it makes room for far more ores.
Hopefully this will have a positive effect on emerald ore generation too, if we're lucky.
It's nice that we're given the option, not everyone has as much need for a particular resource as the other, the old saying is one mans trash is another mans treasure
that saying is dead now no one says it any more anyway not everybody has the same resourses they might have the same seed as somebody but might not get the same benefit as they do.
I can think of builds where lapis blocks would go nicely with, such as hidden treasure rooms/vaults, temples with blue ceilings etc. I have a friend who loves silk touching their ores to decorate rooms. But you only have a need for it with enchanting.
#1 Hidden treasure room/vaults well it's gonna be pretty easy to spot if you tell them that it's filled with lapis and a secret chest and also pretty easy because it might stick out.
#2 Temples with a blue ceiling well it's basically the same as the hidden room/vaults and also people go inside the temple don't look up anyway to see it and also temple are not supposed to have a blue ceiling maybe unless there is a house up there and the floor of the house is lapis blocks anyways.
Besides with the upcoming Caves and Cliffs update, it makes room for far more ores.
Hopefully this will have a positive effect on emerald ore generation too, if we're lucky.
emerald should be more rare and stuff because emeralds ae not really for anything but trading and stuff like that emeralds should be in more biomes except just the mountain biomes.
Edit Emeralds can also be used to get pearls which can be grat if you get a cleric villager which make emeralds not so useless if you have enough emeralds that is
I might enjoy the game more if Lapis was more scarce. Not in terms of how often you find a vein, but in terms of how much lapis each block gives you. Once you find one Lapis vein, you basically have way more than enough to enchant everything. So after that, it feels useless. If each lapis block only gave 1 lapis, I would feel more excited to find it, since it would be more scarce.
Emeralds have use no matter how many you have since they can always be used for trading.
No, lapis also serves as a dye.
It can be common, as long as it's deep underground.
If you have whole chests of it, feel free to use it to dye stuff.
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Settlements - deep underground
Farmability - to grinder bound
Shields - made creepers but sound
Axes and crossbows - taking mobs out
that saying is dead now no one says it any more anyway not everybody has the same resourses they might have the same seed as somebody but might not get the same benefit as they do.
#1 Hidden treasure room/vaults well it's gonna be pretty easy to spot if you tell them that it's filled with lapis and a secret chest and also pretty easy because it might stick out.
#2 Temples with a blue ceiling well it's basically the same as the hidden room/vaults and also people go inside the temple don't look up anyway to see it and also temple are not supposed to have a blue ceiling maybe unless there is a house up there and the floor of the house is lapis blocks anyways.
emerald should be more rare and stuff because emeralds ae not really for anything but trading and stuff like that emeralds should be in more biomes except just the mountain biomes.
Edit Emeralds can also be used to get pearls which can be grat if you get a cleric villager which make emeralds not so useless if you have enough emeralds that is
Telling others the material that would be used for builds that are supposed to be hidden is a give away, but this does not matter on servers that have a no griefing rule. It would only be a problem on anarchy or PVP servers or if you invited someone who couldn't be trusted to a private world, so on a non PVP server like mine where only trusted people join it does not matter.
Friends could use whatever material they wanted for their buildings and their materials wouldn't get stolen or destroyed provided the no grief rule was obeyed, and I'm very strict whom I invite to my worlds, not just for my own sake, but for every friend who is on the realm/world.
And no matter what materials you use for those buildings or what materials you told others it was made from, if the would be thief or vandal doesn't know the coordinates and it is somewhere very far away, they would still have a tough time finding it.
It is like trying to find a stronghold without Eye of Ender, pure chance and random encounter.
Not mentioning the materials used wouldn't guarantee it would never be found either.
The more people you have on your server, the higher the probability the accidental encounter is, it's that simple.
If you don't want griefers then the general wisdom is you use whitelisted servers with strict decisions on who you invite and who you deny.
If you're talking about ores, then Emerald Ore is the most useless. However, if you're talking about the item itself I'd say Lapis since it is only used for Blue Dye and Enchanting. Emeralds are crucial for villager Trading Halls and can give you many items that make it worth your time investing in Villagers.
So i looked at this fourm about what do you think is the most useless ore and many people said lapiz and emerald well emerald has some uses you can use it for villagers and beacons but what about lapiz and what do you think about it?
I think lapiz is good for enchanting tables
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I might enjoy the game more if Lapis was more scarce. Not in terms of how often you find a vein, but in terms of how much lapis each block gives you. Once you find one Lapis vein, you basically have way more than enough to enchant everything. So after that, it feels useless. If each lapis block only gave 1 lapis, I would feel more excited to find it, since it would be more scarce.
Emeralds have use no matter how many you have since they can always be used for trading.
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The people who were saying that lapis is useless were posting in a thread from 2012-2013, long before 1.8 made it a requirement for enchanting - I play in 1.6.4, before the new enchanting system, and have literally never used it myself despite having collected tens of thousands of blocks of it (not counting the blocks I put in the floor to mark the chests that store it), although I wouldn't call it the most useless ore, which would be emerald since emeralds themselves can be much more easily acquired by trading and there is no reason to collect the ore other than for the ore block itself (however, it is the only ore I collect with Silk Touch since emeralds themselves have very little value due to how easy it is to get them by trading). Even then, emerald ore can be useful for the situation where you have villagers which are only selling something but you can easily breed more (this is mostly only applicable to older versions, where villagers started with a single trade and you could not change their profession to get new trades).
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Emerald ore is more useless, because it is so rare you may as well get it from villager trades.
At least with lapis you can get enough of it from mining that you don't have to keep going back to your local Cleric for some favours.
If it were up to me I'd just silk touch the emerald ore for decoration, because that's all the ore is good for.
Its rarity makes trading it too inefficient to bother with.
you can get emeralds so easy by trading and well lapis is only used for enchanting which takes some time to get and emeralds are kinda hard to get unless your in a mountain biome and lapis well i never use lapis anyway unless i get an enchant table and after i get i can't find lapis.
Lapiz can also be used to dye. (or crafted to?)
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Lapis is useful because the reasons you've just mentioned, and once you've dyed a Sheep in a blue color you can breed it into infinity and you'd end up with the same color unless it is bred with a Sheep of a different wool color, saving you further Lapis in return.
Also as you've said, it is used for enchanting, both for books and your tools/armour. And I'd add it can be used for making lapis blocks and has a unique texture making builds look more interesting.
Is Lapis hard to get? sort of, if you're mining for it. But it's still common enough that it's not worth complaining about, plus you can dupe it with Fortune. Personally I have a much easier time getting Redstone than Lapis, but because there aren't too many uses for Lapis it simply does not matter IMO. And because of villager trades it is renewable.
well finding sheep is a pain for me i couldn't find a sheep i found one it was gray and never found one again i needed a white sheep to make a bed.
it's just a blue block and well yea the texture is good and all but who wants thousands of blocks of lapis you will only need one well the only reason you want alot f blocks is because it will take up less space and you can also use it for sorting and stuff like that.
i never really get fortune or silk touch to get more but should find it alot more if it's common i don't want to waste my time going in a ravine if there's no lapis to enchant with. I understand you points here but there's no reason getting lapis blocks unless you want more space and maybe fo storage that's all you would need it for.
It's nice that we're given the option, not everyone has as much need for a particular resource as the other, the old saying is one mans trash is another mans treasure.
I can think of builds where lapis blocks would go nicely with, such as hidden treasure rooms/vaults, temples with blue ceilings etc. I have a friend who loves silk touching their ores to decorate rooms. But you only have a need for it with enchanting.
Besides with the upcoming Caves and Cliffs update, it makes room for far more ores.
Hopefully this will have a positive effect on emerald ore generation too, if we're lucky.
that saying is dead now no one says it any more anyway not everybody has the same resourses they might have the same seed as somebody but might not get the same benefit as they do.
#1 Hidden treasure room/vaults well it's gonna be pretty easy to spot if you tell them that it's filled with lapis and a secret chest and also pretty easy because it might stick out.
#2 Temples with a blue ceiling well it's basically the same as the hidden room/vaults and also people go inside the temple don't look up anyway to see it and also temple are not supposed to have a blue ceiling maybe unless there is a house up there and the floor of the house is lapis blocks anyways.
emerald should be more rare and stuff because emeralds ae not really for anything but trading and stuff like that emeralds should be in more biomes except just the mountain biomes.
Edit Emeralds can also be used to get pearls which can be grat if you get a cleric villager which make emeralds not so useless if you have enough emeralds that is
No, lapis also serves as a dye.
It can be common, as long as it's deep underground.
If you have whole chests of it, feel free to use it to dye stuff.
Dwarf gamer found:
Buildings - square, not round
Materials - from rubble mound
Dark caves - lit 'n' cleaned out
Settlements - deep underground
Farmability - to grinder bound
Shields - made creepers but sound
Axes and crossbows - taking mobs out
Telling others the material that would be used for builds that are supposed to be hidden is a give away, but this does not matter on servers that have a no griefing rule. It would only be a problem on anarchy or PVP servers or if you invited someone who couldn't be trusted to a private world, so on a non PVP server like mine where only trusted people join it does not matter.
Friends could use whatever material they wanted for their buildings and their materials wouldn't get stolen or destroyed provided the no grief rule was obeyed, and I'm very strict whom I invite to my worlds, not just for my own sake, but for every friend who is on the realm/world.
And no matter what materials you use for those buildings or what materials you told others it was made from, if the would be thief or vandal doesn't know the coordinates and it is somewhere very far away, they would still have a tough time finding it.
It is like trying to find a stronghold without Eye of Ender, pure chance and random encounter.
Not mentioning the materials used wouldn't guarantee it would never be found either.
The more people you have on your server, the higher the probability the accidental encounter is, it's that simple.
If you don't want griefers then the general wisdom is you use whitelisted servers with strict decisions on who you invite and who you deny.
By the way use this seed right now 881307381 it is quadruple village desert temple double dungeon above stronghold
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If you're talking about ores, then Emerald Ore is the most useless. However, if you're talking about the item itself I'd say Lapis since it is only used for Blue Dye and Enchanting. Emeralds are crucial for villager Trading Halls and can give you many items that make it worth your time investing in Villagers.