Hey guys, my wife and I killed the bosses in this monument and formed this wall with sand prior to the Aquatic update. When the Aquatic update hit, it caused the monument to shift a bit and break 2 parts of the wall apart. I was wondering if it was still okay and we could create a farm out of this if we stick with the original layout or would we have to tweak it a bit?
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What's "a bit"? 16 blocks? (A chunk.)
It shouldn't shift things around, but sometimes something can go wrong so it shifts chunks around.
Or maybe the Aquatic update somehow missed that there was already a monument there and generated a new one in almost the same place.
Either way I don't think one could know in advance whether the game still knows that those chunks should contain a monument.
I think you should add some water and see if any guardians spawn or not.
I'm pretty sure they will spawn in flowing water so you wouldn't have to undo all the work you put into draining it, just add water under the ceiling and let it flow down. (I presume you drained it, otherwise you'd be seeing whether guardians were spawning or not.)
Come to think of it the /locate command should indicate whether your monument still works as a monument.
Typing
/locate monument
in chat should give you the coordinates for the nearest ocean monument, if it doesn't give you the coordinates of your monument when you are close to it then it probably won't work.
I think that what must have happened is that those 3 chunks must have gotten deleted for some reason, and when they got regenerated Minecraft realized that there should be an ocean monument there but generated it differently then the first time. Notice how that isn't the original bits of monument that were there to start with, that's the other end of a monument. And that explains why the bits of your wall are missing.
Anyway, I can see guardians but you should pay attention to where they spawn, it could be that they only spawn in the new, reversed, chunks or something.
And you should probably check anything else you have built to see if there are more chunks that have been regenerated.
Yeah I assumed because of the second monument generating, it took out the chunks of the wall. Other things I’ve built in the wall haven’t been affected since we haven’t built anything too far from spawn. I’m assuming perhaps the original wall can still be used as is, but because parts of the regenerated monument could be a spawn point, and since those parts extrude past the walls, it could potentially hinder a future farm, which is the main goal of flushing this out. Unless.. perhaps the only water sources inside the walls that are connected to the farm might be the only spawn points, therefore not messing with the farm nor drops?
I definitely will observe the area to see how the guardians spawn to see if there definitely is a difference in the second monument though
I'm not quite sure what your asking about the spawning but any water (source or flowing) within a box, the size of your wall, around a monument can spawn guardians (as long as it's at least 2 blocks deep).
The question is what parts the game consider to belong to a monument, the new monument bits are a bit further to the left and upwards in your pictures than the original, so it is possible that you need to move the left and upper walls so that they include the whole area that the new monument would have taken up had the whole thing been built.
It's easiest to fix the walls and then see if any guardians spawn outside, in which case you'd want to move the walls. I'd definitely build the wall out around the monument bit that sticks out to the left but that might not be enough.
/locate might give some clue, assuming it points to the center of a monument, it would be interesting to see if it gives the same result at the upper left corner of your wall as at the lower right, it could be that the game thinks there are 2 monuments there (I wonder if that would increase the spawn rates?)
Hey guys, my wife and I killed the bosses in this monument and formed this wall with sand prior to the Aquatic update. When the Aquatic update hit, it caused the monument to shift a bit and break 2 parts of the wall apart. I was wondering if it was still okay and we could create a farm out of this if we stick with the original layout or would we have to tweak it a bit?
link: https://imgur.com/a/jwe1rTz
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What's "a bit"? 16 blocks? (A chunk.)
It shouldn't shift things around, but sometimes something can go wrong so it shifts chunks around.
Or maybe the Aquatic update somehow missed that there was already a monument there and generated a new one in almost the same place.
Either way I don't think one could know in advance whether the game still knows that those chunks should contain a monument.
I think you should add some water and see if any guardians spawn or not.
I'm pretty sure they will spawn in flowing water so you wouldn't have to undo all the work you put into draining it, just add water under the ceiling and let it flow down. (I presume you drained it, otherwise you'd be seeing whether guardians were spawning or not.)
Just testing.
Come to think of it the /locate command should indicate whether your monument still works as a monument.
Typing
/locate monument
in chat should give you the coordinates for the nearest ocean monument, if it doesn't give you the coordinates of your monument when you are close to it then it probably won't work.
Good luck!
Just testing.
Sorry about that, yeah I was initially posting from my phone. Here are some photos for context:
Weird!
I think that what must have happened is that those 3 chunks must have gotten deleted for some reason, and when they got regenerated Minecraft realized that there should be an ocean monument there but generated it differently then the first time. Notice how that isn't the original bits of monument that were there to start with, that's the other end of a monument. And that explains why the bits of your wall are missing.
Anyway, I can see guardians but you should pay attention to where they spawn, it could be that they only spawn in the new, reversed, chunks or something.
And you should probably check anything else you have built to see if there are more chunks that have been regenerated.
Just testing.
Yeah I assumed because of the second monument generating, it took out the chunks of the wall. Other things I’ve built in the wall haven’t been affected since we haven’t built anything too far from spawn. I’m assuming perhaps the original wall can still be used as is, but because parts of the regenerated monument could be a spawn point, and since those parts extrude past the walls, it could potentially hinder a future farm, which is the main goal of flushing this out. Unless.. perhaps the only water sources inside the walls that are connected to the farm might be the only spawn points, therefore not messing with the farm nor drops?
I definitely will observe the area to see how the guardians spawn to see if there definitely is a difference in the second monument though
I'm not quite sure what your asking about the spawning but any water (source or flowing) within a box, the size of your wall, around a monument can spawn guardians (as long as it's at least 2 blocks deep).
The question is what parts the game consider to belong to a monument, the new monument bits are a bit further to the left and upwards in your pictures than the original, so it is possible that you need to move the left and upper walls so that they include the whole area that the new monument would have taken up had the whole thing been built.
It's easiest to fix the walls and then see if any guardians spawn outside, in which case you'd want to move the walls. I'd definitely build the wall out around the monument bit that sticks out to the left but that might not be enough.
/locate might give some clue, assuming it points to the center of a monument, it would be interesting to see if it gives the same result at the upper left corner of your wall as at the lower right, it could be that the game thinks there are 2 monuments there (I wonder if that would increase the spawn rates?)
Just testing.