Although the wiki says bee nests occur on higher percentage of trees only in plains biomes, I just noticed this statement.
"Oak and birch trees grown from saplings that are within 2 blocks of any flower have a 5% chance to grow with bee nest and 1–3 bees in it.[Java Edition only][upcoming: BE 1.16.0]"
I interpret this to mean in any biome type in Java edition, is this so? If so it should work in my snowy tundra so I'll just go spam out a lot of dandelions or poppies and go for it.
You can get bee nests from trees grown in every biome, yes. The 5% chance, though, I dunno. Codedivers like MasterCaver are saying things like 5% always but the content creators spending days grinding out bee nests suggests it's different (ie, some biomes have a full 5% chance while others have much less of a chance).
You can get bee nests from trees grown in every biome, yes. The 5% chance, though, I dunno. Codedivers like MasterCaver are saying things like 5% always but the content creators spending days grinding out bee nests suggests it's different (ie, some biomes have a full 5% chance while others have much less of a chance).
Grinders are going to have different encounters with them. Every time a tree would grow and fulfill the criterion for a bee nest to spawn, that's a 1/20 roll. If that 1/20 roll fails, the player would have to try again. That 1/20 can fail a lot, so much so that it feels like a significantly lower spawn rate.
I tested tree growth just now in a Buffet world, and while it doesn't feel like a 5% chance to me, Oak saplings and poppies did eventually cause a bee nest to pop up in a Snowy Tundra. I had this same problem in my single-player world when I spent no less than four hours growing two nests so I could start breeding bees. In a Forest Hills, no less.
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You can get bee nests from trees grown in every biome, yes. The 5% chance, though, I dunno. Codedivers like MasterCaver are saying things like 5% always but the content creators spending days grinding out bee nests suggests it's different (ie, some biomes have a full 5% chance while others have much less of a chance).
I haven't actually looked at the code, just stated what the Wiki claims, but others have tested it and found the probability to be close to 5% even in biomes that don't naturally have bee nests:
Note that a 5% chance does not mean you are guaranteed to get one after 20 attempts; the probability of getting one is (1 - 0.95^20) = 64% and to ensure a 90% chance of getting one you need about 45 attempts, and 99% requires about 90 attempts (this is a lot like mining for diamonds, which are not as randomly distributed as a pure random function due to generating once per chunk-sized area but there is a tremendous amount of variation in how much mining you have to do to find a vein).
Well... You can certainly get bees in a snowy tundra biome because I just did, but it's probably not 5% chance by a darn sight. Out of 100 birch saplings planted near a Peony bush (1 empty block between) I got one bee nest. Actually that's all you need to start an apiery so I stopped.
As TMC points out it's statistics and probability. However. probability of not getting one in 100 tries is only about 6/1000, so that means it's not likely 5% probability.
Although the wiki says bee nests occur on higher percentage of trees only in plains biomes, I just noticed this statement.
"Oak and birch trees grown from saplings that are within 2 blocks of any flower have a 5% chance to grow with bee nest and 1–3 bees in it.[Java Edition only][upcoming: BE 1.16.0]"
I interpret this to mean in any biome type in Java edition, is this so? If so it should work in my snowy tundra so I'll just go spam out a lot of dandelions or poppies and go for it.
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You can get bee nests from trees grown in every biome, yes. The 5% chance, though, I dunno. Codedivers like MasterCaver are saying things like 5% always but the content creators spending days grinding out bee nests suggests it's different (ie, some biomes have a full 5% chance while others have much less of a chance).
Grinders are going to have different encounters with them. Every time a tree would grow and fulfill the criterion for a bee nest to spawn, that's a 1/20 roll. If that 1/20 roll fails, the player would have to try again. That 1/20 can fail a lot, so much so that it feels like a significantly lower spawn rate.
I tested tree growth just now in a Buffet world, and while it doesn't feel like a 5% chance to me, Oak saplings and poppies did eventually cause a bee nest to pop up in a Snowy Tundra. I had this same problem in my single-player world when I spent no less than four hours growing two nests so I could start breeding bees. In a Forest Hills, no less.
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Team Fortress 2
Borderlands series (Borderlands 2 is my favorite game, ever. TPS combat is a lot of fun and makes up for the lower-quality story, in my opinion)
Elder Scrolls series
Warframe (IGN is something like That_One_Flesh_Atronach)
Pokémon series (HGSS forever)
Rocket League
Fallout series
Left 4 Dead 2 (Boomer files always corrupt though)
SUPERHOT (SUPERHOT is the most innovative shooter I've played in years!)
Dead Rising series (Dead Rising 2 is one of my favorite games, and the 3rd was a lot of fun. 1st has poor survivor AI and the 4th is bad)
Just Cause series
Come to think of it, I mainly play fighting-based games.
I haven't actually looked at the code, just stated what the Wiki claims, but others have tested it and found the probability to be close to 5% even in biomes that don't naturally have bee nests:
https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-java-edition/discussion/3008762-do-bee-nests-regenerated?comment=9 (the previous comment is also a case of being lucky and experiencing a much higher chance than expected, 0.2% in forests)
Note that a 5% chance does not mean you are guaranteed to get one after 20 attempts; the probability of getting one is (1 - 0.95^20) = 64% and to ensure a 90% chance of getting one you need about 45 attempts, and 99% requires about 90 attempts (this is a lot like mining for diamonds, which are not as randomly distributed as a pure random function due to generating once per chunk-sized area but there is a tremendous amount of variation in how much mining you have to do to find a vein).
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
Well... You can certainly get bees in a snowy tundra biome because I just did, but it's probably not 5% chance by a darn sight. Out of 100 birch saplings planted near a Peony bush (1 empty block between) I got one bee nest. Actually that's all you need to start an apiery so I stopped.
As TMC points out it's statistics and probability. However. probability of not getting one in 100 tries is only about 6/1000, so that means it's not likely 5% probability.
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