I have not played for a while so decided to try 1.15.1 Java survival for bee fun.
Spawned in an archipelago and eventually found a sunflower plains island with an abandoned village on it with lots of cobwebs. I freed a bee caught in a cobweb (very carefully).
Looked for nests and found two, one was empty and the other one had one bee in it so could not breed, probably the same bee I freed. There was one bee on the whole island so it must have been.
I built a small base and growing plot near it and harvested honeycombs and honey successfully for several days as there were plenty of flowers nearby.
Then the lone bee disappeared and so now I have none and this means two bee nests with zero bees.
I googled for disappearing bees and found a lot of threads discussing this problem in relation to bee farms. Looks like a dysfunctional mechanic is killing them off. Is there a problem with Minecraft bees? I havent been using organophosphates I promise.
Yes, thats what I was thinking might be happening. If the bees are on an island its likely they will fly over water and I have watched bat pathfinding and saw them dip below the surface so if bees are anything like that and water kills them then they are clearly not aversive to water, when they should be.
I may have to go on a zoological expedition and look for a big patch of mainland and see if there are any bees on that which have survived.
OK, I went searching and found a larger island with the flower forest biome and there were two freshly generated nests there, luckily there was a bee in each one and I was able to breed them. One of the nests was further away from the water than the other which was on the shore, within three days the bee from the shore nest had vanished and I only had the inland bee and progeny left, which fits the pattern of water annihilating bees.
This is a major flaw though because it means bee populations will always disappear, unlike other mobs, as they dont seem to be respawning which, if I am not mistaken, the other mobs seem to be able to do.
It strikes me the bee nests need to be able to generate bees if they are not occupied.
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So far in my new world I've found two empty beehives. Both times I planted extra flowers around the hive's tree and camped out nearby for a few days waiting for bees to show up before giving up and bringing the hives home. I've also encountered several extremely lost bees flying over the ocean, but never when i have a lead in inventory; once I was close enough to shore to quickly grab some flowers and try to lure the bee, but he disappeared long before I made it back home.
(in my "real" world, at some point in the snapshots I went off on an explore and found a hive with a lot of bee activity; I harvested it while full of bees and brought it home, but with all the problems people have been having with disappearing bees (and mostly being busy getting the new world set up) I've left it in storage for now...)
Seems like freshly generated hives have bees but they disappear after a short time and never come back.
The suspected vulnerability to water is a particular problem when you consider the bees usefulness as pollinators and the necessity of having water on farms. I suppose you could cover canals with another tile.
At the moment I dont dare transport the bees I have bred back to the island farm I set up to start breeding cows for leather for books (would prefer another way to bind books without harming cows, bone glue and textile or wood and thread for example, as I prefer to fight defensively only). I dont have silk touch yet but I do have a few leads conveniently dropped by traders due to being stretched by llamas clambering about on hilly terrain. The workaround might be to set up a wheat farm well away from water near bees with covered canals. Another option would be to enclose the island farm entirely in glass and use a double door airlock to get in and out to stop bees escaping and put flowers in with the crops.
What could possibly go wrong! IMHO this should not really be necessary though and I think the bee survival and regeneration rate needs to be improved.
Resurected this thread as I find the same problem. Have now found 5 nests, 3 forest and 2 plains, and not a single bee . Both forest nests are near the ocean but the plains nests are not.
Resurected this thread as I find the same problem. Have now found 5 nests, 3 forest and 2 plains, and not a single bee . Both forest nests are near the ocean but the plains nests are not.
Are these confirmed 1.15.2 generated nests or are they from earlier versions (the OP was using 1.15.1, which had several bugs involving bee nests)? I recall various bugs with bee nests in 1.15.1, ranging from deleting bees if the bees cannot get out (a block in front of the nest) to forgetting where the nest was. There were also some bugs with bees themselves, one of which involved their pathfinding through water (essentially they forgot which way was up and were more likely to drown by simply continuing to wander through the water). If these are older worldgen nests then perhaps they were affected by these bugs while you puttered around the areas they were located.
Are these confirmed 1.15.2 generated nests or are they from earlier versions (the OP was using 1.15.1, which had several bugs involving bee nests)? I recall various bugs with bee nests in 1.15.1, ranging from deleting bees if the bees cannot get out (a block in front of the nest) to forgetting where the nest was. There were also some bugs with bees themselves, one of which involved their pathfinding through water (essentially they forgot which way was up and were more likely to drown by simply continuing to wander through the water). If these are older worldgen nests then perhaps they were affected by these bugs while you puttered around the areas they were located.
Definitely 1.15.2. This is a new world I made after updating to the latest release. I like Hexalobular's suggestion and will try it soon.
I had 9 bees in three hives that I spent the last two days attempting to spawn. Long story short, I was planting flowers around the trees and accidently hit a bee. After being attacked, by all of them (I believe it was), they disapeared. Based on the comments...I guess I won't be seeing them again.
as i've learned on Minecraft wiki, bee will die after they sting you. One stung me, i ran like crazy, whey they stopped attaching me, i saw one fell and whoosh.. gone.
I have not played for a while so decided to try 1.15.1 Java survival for bee fun.
Spawned in an archipelago and eventually found a sunflower plains island with an abandoned village on it with lots of cobwebs. I freed a bee caught in a cobweb (very carefully).
Looked for nests and found two, one was empty and the other one had one bee in it so could not breed, probably the same bee I freed. There was one bee on the whole island so it must have been.
I built a small base and growing plot near it and harvested honeycombs and honey successfully for several days as there were plenty of flowers nearby.
Then the lone bee disappeared and so now I have none and this means two bee nests with zero bees.
I googled for disappearing bees and found a lot of threads discussing this problem in relation to bee farms. Looks like a dysfunctional mechanic is killing them off. Is there a problem with Minecraft bees? I havent been using organophosphates I promise.
Would be grateful for any wisdom on this problem.
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The main problem, I believe, is that bees have pathing problems regarding water and thus frequently drown.
Yes, thats what I was thinking might be happening. If the bees are on an island its likely they will fly over water and I have watched bat pathfinding and saw them dip below the surface so if bees are anything like that and water kills them then they are clearly not aversive to water, when they should be.
I may have to go on a zoological expedition and look for a big patch of mainland and see if there are any bees on that which have survived.
OK, I went searching and found a larger island with the flower forest biome and there were two freshly generated nests there, luckily there was a bee in each one and I was able to breed them. One of the nests was further away from the water than the other which was on the shore, within three days the bee from the shore nest had vanished and I only had the inland bee and progeny left, which fits the pattern of water annihilating bees.
This is a major flaw though because it means bee populations will always disappear, unlike other mobs, as they dont seem to be respawning which, if I am not mistaken, the other mobs seem to be able to do.
It strikes me the bee nests need to be able to generate bees if they are not occupied.
So far in my new world I've found two empty beehives. Both times I planted extra flowers around the hive's tree and camped out nearby for a few days waiting for bees to show up before giving up and bringing the hives home. I've also encountered several extremely lost bees flying over the ocean, but never when i have a lead in inventory; once I was close enough to shore to quickly grab some flowers and try to lure the bee, but he disappeared long before I made it back home.
(in my "real" world, at some point in the snapshots I went off on an explore and found a hive with a lot of bee activity; I harvested it while full of bees and brought it home, but with all the problems people have been having with disappearing bees (and mostly being busy getting the new world set up) I've left it in storage for now...)
Seems like freshly generated hives have bees but they disappear after a short time and never come back.
The suspected vulnerability to water is a particular problem when you consider the bees usefulness as pollinators and the necessity of having water on farms. I suppose you could cover canals with another tile.
At the moment I dont dare transport the bees I have bred back to the island farm I set up to start breeding cows for leather for books (would prefer another way to bind books without harming cows, bone glue and textile or wood and thread for example, as I prefer to fight defensively only). I dont have silk touch yet but I do have a few leads conveniently dropped by traders due to being stretched by llamas clambering about on hilly terrain. The workaround might be to set up a wheat farm well away from water near bees with covered canals. Another option would be to enclose the island farm entirely in glass and use a double door airlock to get in and out to stop bees escaping and put flowers in with the crops.
What could possibly go wrong! IMHO this should not really be necessary though and I think the bee survival and regeneration rate needs to be improved.
Resurected this thread as I find the same problem. Have now found 5 nests, 3 forest and 2 plains, and not a single bee . Both forest nests are near the ocean but the plains nests are not.
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If you plant oaks or birches next to flowers (up to 2 blocks away I think) they have a chance to grow with bees nests on them.
Just plant a whole bunch and keep chopping down and replanting until you get enough bees.
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(I'm not sure but tall flowers may interfere with the growing of trees if they are right next to the sapling.)
Just testing.
Are these confirmed 1.15.2 generated nests or are they from earlier versions (the OP was using 1.15.1, which had several bugs involving bee nests)? I recall various bugs with bee nests in 1.15.1, ranging from deleting bees if the bees cannot get out (a block in front of the nest) to forgetting where the nest was. There were also some bugs with bees themselves, one of which involved their pathfinding through water (essentially they forgot which way was up and were more likely to drown by simply continuing to wander through the water). If these are older worldgen nests then perhaps they were affected by these bugs while you puttered around the areas they were located.
Definitely 1.15.2. This is a new world I made after updating to the latest release. I like Hexalobular's suggestion and will try it soon.
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I had 9 bees in three hives that I spent the last two days attempting to spawn. Long story short, I was planting flowers around the trees and accidently hit a bee. After being attacked, by all of them (I believe it was), they disapeared. Based on the comments...I guess I won't be seeing them again.
as i've learned on Minecraft wiki, bee will die after they sting you. One stung me, i ran like crazy, whey they stopped attaching me, i saw one fell and whoosh.. gone.