That obsidian layering is a great idea. If you had 4 layers of that, they would have to break at least 20 obsidian, and they would also have quite a puzzle trying to channel out the lava. It would take about 5 and a half minutes to break enough to get in with a diamond pick axe, and they would have quite a puzzle keeping lava out of the situation. To make it better, each layer could have a layer of air under the lava, so they have extra flow blocks to deal with.
The issue is that there is no easy way you could access the roof then, unless you already have people up there.
Without question, someone has already talked about this, but I unfortunately don't have enough time to read all 113 pages of the thread that aren't the OP page or this page.
Anyways, I've thought of something to add to either the 'cannons' or 'sabotage' section:
People cannons. Perhaps an army should have special units, designated as 'shock troopers' or something like that, comprised of one redstone Engineer and 3-5 warriors or saboteurs clad in diamond armour (due to the necessity of blast-resistance and fall damage reduction).
The idea is that during an invasion, siege or other kind of attack on a well-fortified, above-ground base, the Engineer constructs a TNT cannon and then finds the proper amount of TNT propellant to use to fire a TNT block over the wall without hitting anything.
After that, the soldiers designated as the warriors would, one by one, stand in the space normally occupied by the TNT 'shell,' and be fired just barely over the walls (so that they didn't fall quite as far as they would if they were launched into the centre of the base) by the Engineer, and wreak havoc an the relatively-unsuspecting enemy defenders.
Anyone else think that this would be viable in at least some situations?
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Without question, someone has already talked about this, but I unfortunately don't have enough time to read all 113 pages of the thread that aren't the OP page or this page.
Anyways, I've thought of something to add to either the 'cannons' or 'sabotage' section:
People cannons. Perhaps an army should have special units, designated as 'shock troopers' or something like that, comprised of one redstone Engineer and 3-5 warriors or saboteurs clad in diamond armour (due to the necessity of blast-resistance and fall damage reduction).
The idea is that during an invasion, siege or other kind of attack on a well-fortified, above-ground base, the Engineer constructs a TNT cannon and then finds the proper amount of TNT propellant to use to fire a TNT block over the wall without hitting anything.
After that, the soldiers designated as the warriors would, one by one, stand in the space normally occupied by the TNT 'shell,' and be fired just barely over the walls (so that they didn't fall quite as far as they would if they were launched into the centre of the base) by the Engineer, and wreak havoc an the relatively-unsuspecting enemy defenders.
Anyone else think that this would be viable in at least some situations?
Before enchantments came out this was considered impractical because of how damaged you would be when you landed near the enemies but after seeing Valerius' enchantment video this seems like it could be practical with enchanted diamond armor. However with the pre-release ender pearls you could just lob a pearl over the wall and get the same effect.
Sorry, but this has been shown to be impractical. Think about it. Have you ever been standing too close to a large pile of TNT? How far did it knock you back? The only way to send a person as a projectile is to incorporate a minecart, and even then, people just don't fly far enough to make it useful. It can be done with animals, but people are just too heavy for some reason.
Human cannon is practical only because of protection enchantments. The fun part is that they expect a big attack at like the gate.
On a word of gates, i think a piston gate with a lever on the insaide of the fort would be the safest.
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I thoroughly enjoyed this.
As a swede, one of viking heritage, this was quite confusing though
I prefer to run in with a sword, ready to go to Vallhalla
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As for pork vs beef, beef. You get more drops per cow and it's more filling. Also. Leather is usless for clans. They can easily get tons of iron. However, each sexier shod be fought to carry at least 4 buckets of milk to ward off potions so cows/beef are far superior. Also, the baby cows look cuter.
Sorry, but this has been shown to be impractical. Think about it. Have you ever been standing too close to a large pile of TNT? How far did it knock you back? The only way to send a person as a projectile is to incorporate a minecart, and even then, people just don't fly far enough to make it useful. It can be done with animals, but people are just too heavy for some reason.
Have you tried jumping? TNT can launch a person very far with a relatively small amount of TNT. Minecarts are not needed at all.
So the question remains whether the enchanted armor would give you enough of an advantage to justify using an ender pearl to get in. Feather falling might help a bit, but I don't think that prevents all fall damage.
Instant health potions could also be useful in this situation. If you start drinking the potion soon enough, you could negate any damage instantly. However, that would require good timing to avoid wasting the potion.
Thanks for pointing that out, all (I was about to actually try that with a clan that I'm a fairly high-ranking member of and no you can't join it's invite-only so before you complain, sorry).
But! What about this:
An army has special 'Shock Trooper' units of one redstone engineer and three warriors and or saboteurs, at least one or two of whom is mildly competent in rigging a cannon.
Each set of actual soldiers (all of them excluding the engineer) are clad in full Diamond armour, with at least protection II enchantments. They would preferably be equipped with diamond swords, and have feather-fall and instant health potions in their hotbars at all times.
During an attack on a walled, above-ground enemy base, the Engineer would set up a TNT-powered cannon, and then proceed to shoot the soldiers over the walls (the soldiers would of course JUMP right before the TNT propellant went off to minimise blast damage and maximise launch distance an velocity; use the feather fall potions right after launch, and preferably also finish drinking a health potion as quickly after impact as possible to minimise total damage from entering the fortress via cannon).
The soldiers would then do as much damage as possible (their priority would be to at least semi-permanently open a safe way into the fort from the outside), and maybe even give an important view of the inside of the fort(ress) to help aim TNT shots (or arrow volleys) and/or more shock troopers to important areas of the enemy base.
If captured or about to die with little to no hope of escape, the soldier(s) would kill themselves with lava to prevent their armour from falling into the hands of the enemy, because not having a set of fancy enchanted diamond Über armour and weapons anymore is FAR better than the enemy having a fancy set of enchanted diamond Über armour and weapons that you used to have but don't anymore.
Obviously, you would only give these positions to EXTREMELY high-ranking warriors (and engineers, to stop them from being launched into a lava wall instead of over it) who have proven themselves time and time again; to minimise losses in expensive armour, enchantments and potions.
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There are much easier and more practical ways of infiltrating a base.
Yes, but it demoralises the enemy troops to see soldiers in full diamond armour flying over the walls and slashing things to bits; and it also helps with your troops' morale in turn because they will want to get to be shot over giant walls too, due to how extremely bas@$$ it is; motivating them to do better in the field in the hopes of getting promoted.
The whole idea is kind of like the ODSTs from the Halo universe when you think about it.
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Yes, but it demoralises the enemy troops to see soldiers in full diamond armour flying over the walls and slashing things to bits; and it also helps with your troops' morale in turn because they will want to get to be shot over giant walls too, due to how extremely bas@$$ it is; motivating them to do better in the field in the hopes of getting promoted.
The whole idea is kind of like the ODSTs from the Halo universe when you think about it.
Lol that's true. I always seem to overlook that factor.
Jesus! There have been so many prereleases I've forgotten about half the new additions. Thank you for reminding me of the Ender Pearls. However, lobbing yourself over into an enemy fortress while missing 2 1/2 hearts is not a good idea. It's better to build a glass tower in the night then set up a piston on a butto nthat releases a small amount of water. You press the button, jump in the water. Then the next person goes. It's good because you cen get down faster and the enemy can't get up.
frankly, wouldn't ender pearls be sneakier and quicker? that way, entire groups of standard steel-clad infantry can "jump" into action, overriding the hp setback with simply the advantage of being a large number of very sudden attackers.
if the defenders are still concentrating on those below with buckets/bows, another advantage.
I have a question. I allow my members to have personal houses on bases, however, I fear they are not defensible. Would a building code indicating the all houses must have bunker like features and/or locked doors help at all.
Well, if you are running a PvP clan, then it is not advisable at all to let members build a house wherever. Most clans have members bunk with their squads or at one central base, in barracks.
I see, well that solves my space problem. Thank you.
Wait, what?
The issue is that there is no easy way you could access the roof then, unless you already have people up there.
Anyways, I've thought of something to add to either the 'cannons' or 'sabotage' section:
People cannons. Perhaps an army should have special units, designated as 'shock troopers' or something like that, comprised of one redstone Engineer and 3-5 warriors or saboteurs clad in diamond armour (due to the necessity of blast-resistance and fall damage reduction).
The idea is that during an invasion, siege or other kind of attack on a well-fortified, above-ground base, the Engineer constructs a TNT cannon and then finds the proper amount of TNT propellant to use to fire a TNT block over the wall without hitting anything.
After that, the soldiers designated as the warriors would, one by one, stand in the space normally occupied by the TNT 'shell,' and be fired just barely over the walls (so that they didn't fall quite as far as they would if they were launched into the centre of the base) by the Engineer, and wreak havoc an the relatively-unsuspecting enemy defenders.
Anyone else think that this would be viable in at least some situations?
Before enchantments came out this was considered impractical because of how damaged you would be when you landed near the enemies but after seeing Valerius' enchantment video this seems like it could be practical with enchanted diamond armor. However with the pre-release ender pearls you could just lob a pearl over the wall and get the same effect.
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Sorry, but this has been shown to be impractical. Think about it. Have you ever been standing too close to a large pile of TNT? How far did it knock you back? The only way to send a person as a projectile is to incorporate a minecart, and even then, people just don't fly far enough to make it useful. It can be done with animals, but people are just too heavy for some reason.
We're talking about human cannons, not elevators.
On a word of gates, i think a piston gate with a lever on the insaide of the fort would be the safest.
As a swede, one of viking heritage, this was quite confusing though
I prefer to run in with a sword, ready to go to Vallhalla
Yes, yes you did.
Have you tried jumping? TNT can launch a person very far with a relatively small amount of TNT. Minecarts are not needed at all.
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Instant health potions could also be useful in this situation. If you start drinking the potion soon enough, you could negate any damage instantly. However, that would require good timing to avoid wasting the potion.
Thanks for pointing that out, all (I was about to actually try that with a clan that I'm a fairly high-ranking member of and no you can't join it's invite-only so before you complain, sorry).
But! What about this:
An army has special 'Shock Trooper' units of one redstone engineer and three warriors and or saboteurs, at least one or two of whom is mildly competent in rigging a cannon.
Each set of actual soldiers (all of them excluding the engineer) are clad in full Diamond armour, with at least protection II enchantments. They would preferably be equipped with diamond swords, and have feather-fall and instant health potions in their hotbars at all times.
During an attack on a walled, above-ground enemy base, the Engineer would set up a TNT-powered cannon, and then proceed to shoot the soldiers over the walls (the soldiers would of course JUMP right before the TNT propellant went off to minimise blast damage and maximise launch distance an velocity; use the feather fall potions right after launch, and preferably also finish drinking a health potion as quickly after impact as possible to minimise total damage from entering the fortress via cannon).
The soldiers would then do as much damage as possible (their priority would be to at least semi-permanently open a safe way into the fort from the outside), and maybe even give an important view of the inside of the fort(ress) to help aim TNT shots (or arrow volleys) and/or more shock troopers to important areas of the enemy base.
If captured or about to die with little to no hope of escape, the soldier(s) would kill themselves with lava to prevent their armour from falling into the hands of the enemy, because not having a set of fancy enchanted diamond Über armour and weapons anymore is FAR better than the enemy having a fancy set of enchanted diamond Über armour and weapons that you used to have but don't anymore.
Obviously, you would only give these positions to EXTREMELY high-ranking warriors (and engineers, to stop them from being launched into a lava wall instead of over it) who have proven themselves time and time again; to minimise losses in expensive armour, enchantments and potions.
Is this more reasonable?
There are much easier and more practical ways of infiltrating a base.
Yes, but it demoralises the enemy troops to see soldiers in full diamond armour flying over the walls and slashing things to bits; and it also helps with your troops' morale in turn because they will want to get to be shot over giant walls too, due to how extremely bas@$$ it is; motivating them to do better in the field in the hopes of getting promoted.
The whole idea is kind of like the ODSTs from the Halo universe when you think about it.
Lol that's true. I always seem to overlook that factor.
You would lose 0 hearts with a cannon, not 2 1/2.
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if the defenders are still concentrating on those below with buckets/bows, another advantage.
I see, well that solves my space problem. Thank you.