I'm actually neither a combatant nor a builder, primarily an explorer and restorer.
But I agree with your points, albeit you say them pretty much all the time, about how the games needs to appeal to everyone to an extent.
I don't see any need for raw diamonds in large amounts, especially not since trading opened up all armour and tools and weapons. Cheaper blocks exist for beacons. And I know nothing on wardens but wouldn't they be able to follow you out of that specific biome? Also, one can just strip mine and close off any caves they find, unless the new terrain underground is so swiss cheese that this becomes impossible...the new ore depths definitely will be a grind though no matter what, but that's more a topic for the update thread.
I don't have an intensive need for diamonds either, but that's mostly because I put mending on all my diamond equipment and use whatever spare diamonds I have for things like jukeboxes and enchantment tables.
I do have a large need for lapis though but I'll discuss this on the thread about 1.17.
I don't have an intensive need for diamonds either, but that's mostly because I put mending on all my diamond equipment and use whatever spare diamonds I have for things like jukeboxes and enchantment tables.
I do have a large need for lapis though but I'll discuss this on the thread about 1.17.
I'll follow you to that thread then. And agree on both parts
Just
played this game for the first time this past weekend. Long story
short, I lost about 12 diamonds, a diamond pickaxe, about 20 obsidian,
and enchanted book, many gold, redstone, emerald, lapus, iron armor, and
whatever else I had raided from a ravine. Built my house at the top of
the ravine, was doing my first raid of the ravine for supplies. Was
filled up and in the process of climbing back up to my home when a
zombie (in the middle of the day, mind you) snuck up on me, pushed me
into the lava below, and everything I had was destroyed. click speed test
How
do I recover? I'm so upset that several days of planning was wiped out
in a moment. Suddenly I'm back in the stone age and my morale is shot.
What should I do? Thanks to anyone with advice or moral support. This is
an amazing game and I don't want to let this recent experience ruin it
for me!
Well, you are not required to have diamonds (execept for getting obsidian), so rebuild a decent iron set and go back into mining
Also you can explore a bit more to try to find some structure and loot it (it may be a mineshaft, a ruined portal, a shipwreck to find a treasure map and so on), sometimes you get free diamonds to get back in track.
Well, you are not required to have diamonds (execept for getting obsidian), so rebuild a decent iron set and go back into mining
Also you can explore a bit more to try to find some structure and loot it (it may be a mineshaft, a ruined portal, a shipwreck to find a treasure map and so on), sometimes you get free diamonds to get back in track.
And diamonds are supposed to be rare, if we could only choose one item to have diamonds on I'd put it on a Pickaxe.
Some would prefer it for Swords if they do a lot of Wither boss farming.
It's just a matter of purpose really, fortunately we can have it on both and thanks to mending, keep them indefinitely.
But I like Obsidian, so not having any diamonds is a pain in the rear for me, I don't need a lot of it but being without any would mean we couldn't progress in the game. No Obsidian means no Nether entrance, no Nether means no materials to make an End Portal, potions or Withers etc, since Netherwart is required for potions.
Just
played this game for the first time this past weekend. Long story
short, I lost about 12 diamonds, a diamond pickaxe, about 20 obsidian,
and enchanted book, many gold, redstone, emerald, lapus, iron armor, and
whatever else I had raided from a ravine. Built my house at the top of
the ravine, was doing my first raid of the ravine for supplies. Was
filled up and in the process of climbing back up to my home when a
zombie (in the middle of the day, mind you) snuck up on me, pushed me
into the lava below, and everything I had was destroyed. click speed test
How
do I recover? I'm so upset that several days of planning was wiped out
in a moment. Suddenly I'm back in the stone age and my morale is shot.
What should I do? Thanks to anyone with advice or moral support. This is
an amazing game and I don't want to let this recent experience ruin it
for me!
I think you should learn from this experience and spend more time on 'safening' caves and ravines, even surfaced ones. Remove lava flows or wall them off, add walkways around edges, and floor the bottom with water ponds or at least flows.
Better spend a lot of time to keep what you have, then to get it back, right?
(For dark caves I also wall off unexplored sections with a torch behind the wall to reduce mob spawns near it).
I think you should learn from this experience and spend more time on 'safening' caves and ravines, even surfaced ones. Remove lava flows or wall them off, add walkways around edges, and floor the bottom with water ponds or at least flows.
Better spend a lot of time to keep what you have, then to get it back, right?
(For dark caves I also wall off unexplored sections with a torch behind the wall to reduce mob spawns near it).
Learning to identify gravel from stone while caving or mining is also important, this is how some people get caught out including a friend once who had a lot of gravel (or sand if my memory is a little inaccurate) collapse on top of her, back when she was still new to the game.
sometimes, lava will pour in from the sides of the gravel and then that's when the real trouble starts.
Lava slows your movement, blocks your view and even with armour you can still die this way.
You can also fall into a lava pit by collapsing gravel beneath you, although not as likely to happen because you've got a good chance of getting lucky and landing on a column of gravel on top of the lava pool below.
The best way to clear out gravel that has a potential to collapse is to place torches on top of them and let it fall, whatever your mining for, lava is always bad to die in. But sometimes people will go caving without looking what blocks they're walking on and make this mistake that could cost them a lot of diamonds.
Learning to identify gravel from stone while caving or mining is also important, this is how some people get caught out including a friend once who had a lot of gravel (or sand if my memory is a little inaccurate) collapse on top of her, back when she was still new to the game.
sometimes, lava will pour in from the sides of the gravel and then that's when the real trouble starts.
Lava slows your movement, blocks your view and even with armour you can still die this way.
You can also fall into a lava pit by collapsing gravel beneath you, although not as likely to happen because you've got a good chance of getting lucky and landing on a column of gravel on top of the lava pool below.
The best way to clear out gravel that has a potential to collapse is to place torches on top of them and let it fall, whatever your mining for, lava is always bad to die in. But sometimes people will go caving without looking what blocks they're walking on and make this mistake that could cost them a lot of diamonds.
The more dangerous scenario is floating gravel on the floor, because in dark areas it blends with stone and andesite, and placing torches on it may collapse the whole floor on you into a cave, or indeed lava. This used to only be a problem in the nether since overworld gravel and sand would do a check and fall upon chunk loading, but that feature was removed so now it's a problem in both dimensions if you're not very careful.
The more dangerous scenario is floating gravel on the floor, because in dark areas it blends with stone and andesite, and placing torches on it may collapse the whole floor on you into a cave, or indeed lava. This used to only be a problem in the nether since overworld gravel and sand would do a check and fall upon chunk loading, but that feature was removed so now it's a problem in both dimensions if you're not very careful.
Agreed, the real hazard is the deceptive terrain and where even the best of players can be caught off guard on.
We know enough to avoid ravines without the proper equipment to survive a fall in one, and to avoid lava lakes or oceans in the Nether without fire resistance potions active, and to be very careful when bridging the void in the End.
But in the dark it can be hard to tell gravel apart from other blocks that have a similar color or texture.
Floating gravel with lava above it is bad
Floating gravel over a pit is also bad
But without xray mods you have no way of knowing which is safe to traverse and which isn't.
I've found that placing torches on top of the gravel in cave systems helps, this will cause the gravel adjacent to collapse and fall into place, and since gravel cannot fall through a solid block whatever it lands on will make it safe to stand on.
Agreed, the real hazard is the deceptive terrain and where even the best of players can be caught off guard on.
We know enough to avoid ravines without the proper equipment to survive a fall in one, and to avoid lava lakes or oceans in the Nether without fire resistance potions active, and to be very careful when bridging the void in the End.
But in the dark it can be hard to tell gravel apart from other blocks that have a similar color or texture.
Floating gravel with lava above it is bad
Floating gravel over a pit is also bad
But without xray mods you have no way of knowing which is safe to traverse and which isn't.
I've found that placing torches on top of the gravel in cave systems helps, this will cause the gravel adjacent to collapse and fall into place, and since gravel cannot fall through a solid block whatever it lands on will make it safe to stand on.
The only real solution is to turn your brightness up, honestly. Some gravel patches are quite large.
At least for floating ceilings, you have the particles as hints. For grounds, nothing.
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So I was moving my chest storage, and I decided the best way to do it would be to break all the chests then move them one at a time. I forgot about item despawn and lost over 2 and a half stacks of diamonds, as well as a lot of other valuables.
The only real solution is to turn your brightness up, honestly. Some gravel patches are quite large.
At least for floating ceilings, you have the particles as hints. For grounds, nothing.
Agreed, but large patches of gravel can be beneficial too. You want lots of concrete to build smooth textured ceilings or sidewalks? you've got a key ingredient right in front of you. Need lots of flint for making arrows? also no problem.
One must be careful to not allow hubris to consume them and think they're invulnerable just because they've got enchanted armour.
Being trapped in lava most certainly will kill you
In the Nether I can easily evade Ghasts, or shoot them down because of my marksmanship with my bow.
But environmental hazards in the Nether I do get concerned about, such as the gravel example you mentioned.
Also possible to lose diamonds you got this way, since Nether fortresses have chests which have diamonds or diamond horse armour.
I make a habit out of avoiding gravel when I can in the Nether, unless it is close enough to a netherrack floor that I can survive a fall and not on a cliff.
Agreed, but large patches of gravel can be beneficial too. You want lots of concrete to build smooth textured ceilings or sidewalks? you've got a key ingredient right in front of you. Need lots of flint for making arrows? also no problem.
One must be careful to not allow hubris to consume them and think they're invulnerable just because they've got enchanted armour.
Being trapped in lava most certainly will kill you
In the Nether I can easily evade Ghasts, or shoot them down because of my marksmanship with my bow.
But environmental hazards in the Nether I do get concerned about, such as the gravel example you mentioned.
Also possible to lose diamonds you got this way, since Nether fortresses have chests which have diamonds or diamond horse armour.
I make a habit out of avoiding gravel when I can in the Nether, unless it is close enough to a netherrack floor that I can survive a fall and not on a cliff.
I'm not one for concrete nor arrow crafting, and I just stay in smaller caves in the nether most of the time, or set up 'safety sheleters' in larger areas (caves?).
Also yeah, hubris is bad. But you can just not wear or carry expensive stuff, ender chests help with that as do rail lines.
I prefer to travel lightly and presume death at any moment.
I once found like ~20 diamonds. On my way out of the cave, I found a lava fall, I wanted to throw away some junk and without thinking just threw my entire stack of diamonds away. I was infuriated that I just cheated and put them back.
No worries, I would’ve done the same. Silly mistakes like that, where a button was pressed accidentally, a brain fart, etc. is when I don’t mind a minor cheat to restore what you’ve lost. For example, late one night once I mining a gold block and thought I had activated my iron pickaxe. Suddenly the gold block breaks and i got zip.... and I realize I didn’t quite hit the iron pickaxe and instead got the stone one next to it. Well I turned cheats on and put that block right back in inventory.
OTOH, the only time I have given myself something I didn’t have already was a couple villagers when I was learning to defend a village. It was great practice to learn what did and did not work. Otherwise I really don’t like gifting yourself stuff. But that’s just my $.02
No worries, I would’ve done the same. Silly mistakes like that, where a button was pressed accidentally, a brain fart, etc. is when I don’t mind a minor cheat to restore what you’ve lost. For example, late one night once I mining a gold block and thought I had activated my iron pickaxe. Suddenly the gold block breaks and i got zip.... and I realize I didn’t quite hit the iron pickaxe and instead got the stone one next to it. Well I turned cheats on and put that block right back in inventory.
OTOH, the only time I have given myself something I didn’t have already was a couple villagers when I was learning to defend a village. It was great practice to learn what did and did not work. Otherwise I really don’t like gifting yourself stuff. But that’s just my $.02
Brain farts are inevitable, but I'd say they're most likely to happen when we've been up all night and fatigue has started setting in.
Shouldn't play video games on a tired brain though, matter of fact it is a bad idea to do any task when this happens and common sense would suggest people should be asleep to get the rest they need.
Unless I've got caffeinated beverages I don't play Minecraft late at night because I've got too much important stuff that can be lost at a drop of a hat. I believe lizking10152011 who frequents my server has a similar routine.
The last time I lost diamonds? well they dropped in lava, not from dying, the diamonds dropped out of diamond ore because I failed to dig around them properly while I was mining, annoying but I accepted the loss and continued playing, not abused save states, because doing this encourages us to be more careful and be better players in the future.
That is true, but in 1.17 they're going to be removing gold ingot drops from Drowned Zombies and replacing them with copper ingots, which is a terrible change and makes gold a lot harder to get so trading with Piglin will become a much less viable option.
Does anyone really rely on Drowned as a source of gold? C'mon, seriously? I didn't think so. Surely a few hours mining Badlands terrain will generate plenty of gold for Piglin trading, and then some. Far, far more productive than hoping for a gold drop from a Drowned kill.
I had been mining for about 3 hours with rotten luck. My goal was to get a full set of diamond armor and tools. I was about ready to give up but I found an 8 vein, and I needed 6 more, which was very lucky. I started to head back with all my diamonds and I arrive at the surface. I go into my house and I start to put all my diamonds into my chest when a creeper blows up beside me, destroying my chests, most of what was inside them, and all of the diamonds I had spent 3 hours getting. I quit that world out of anger.
Does anyone really rely on Drowned as a source of gold? C'mon, seriously? I didn't think so. Surely a few hours mining Badlands terrain will generate plenty of gold for Piglin trading, and then some. Far, far more productive than hoping for a gold drop from a Drowned kill.
Auto-farming...it's a thing. I don't personally like it but it is a thing.
I had been mining for about 3 hours with rotten luck. My goal was to get a full set of diamond armor and tools. I was about ready to give up but I found an 8 vein, and I needed 6 more, which was very lucky. I started to head back with all my diamonds and I arrive at the surface. I go into my house and I start to put all my diamonds into my chest when a creeper blows up beside me, destroying my chests, most of what was inside them, and all of the diamonds I had spent 3 hours getting. I quit that world out of anger.
How did the creeper blow up the stuff inside your chests??? I thought that the chest will just drop everything then.
I don't have an intensive need for diamonds either, but that's mostly because I put mending on all my diamond equipment and use whatever spare diamonds I have for things like jukeboxes and enchantment tables.
I do have a large need for lapis though but I'll discuss this on the thread about 1.17.
I'll follow you to that thread then. And agree on both parts
Just
played this game for the first time this past weekend. Long story
short, I lost about 12 diamonds, a diamond pickaxe, about 20 obsidian,
and enchanted book, many gold, redstone, emerald, lapus, iron armor, and
whatever else I had raided from a ravine. Built my house at the top of
the ravine, was doing my first raid of the ravine for supplies. Was
filled up and in the process of climbing back up to my home when a
zombie (in the middle of the day, mind you) snuck up on me, pushed me
into the lava below, and everything I had was destroyed. click speed test
How
do I recover? I'm so upset that several days of planning was wiped out
in a moment. Suddenly I'm back in the stone age and my morale is shot.
What should I do? Thanks to anyone with advice or moral support. This is
an amazing game and I don't want to let this recent experience ruin it
for me!
Well, you are not required to have diamonds (execept for getting obsidian), so rebuild a decent iron set and go back into mining
Also you can explore a bit more to try to find some structure and loot it (it may be a mineshaft, a ruined portal, a shipwreck to find a treasure map and so on), sometimes you get free diamonds to get back in track.
And diamonds are supposed to be rare, if we could only choose one item to have diamonds on I'd put it on a Pickaxe.
Some would prefer it for Swords if they do a lot of Wither boss farming.
It's just a matter of purpose really, fortunately we can have it on both and thanks to mending, keep them indefinitely.
But I like Obsidian, so not having any diamonds is a pain in the rear for me, I don't need a lot of it but being without any would mean we couldn't progress in the game. No Obsidian means no Nether entrance, no Nether means no materials to make an End Portal, potions or Withers etc, since Netherwart is required for potions.
I think you should learn from this experience and spend more time on 'safening' caves and ravines, even surfaced ones. Remove lava flows or wall them off, add walkways around edges, and floor the bottom with water ponds or at least flows.
Better spend a lot of time to keep what you have, then to get it back, right?
(For dark caves I also wall off unexplored sections with a torch behind the wall to reduce mob spawns near it).
Learning to identify gravel from stone while caving or mining is also important, this is how some people get caught out including a friend once who had a lot of gravel (or sand if my memory is a little inaccurate) collapse on top of her, back when she was still new to the game.
sometimes, lava will pour in from the sides of the gravel and then that's when the real trouble starts.
Lava slows your movement, blocks your view and even with armour you can still die this way.
You can also fall into a lava pit by collapsing gravel beneath you, although not as likely to happen because you've got a good chance of getting lucky and landing on a column of gravel on top of the lava pool below.
The best way to clear out gravel that has a potential to collapse is to place torches on top of them and let it fall, whatever your mining for, lava is always bad to die in. But sometimes people will go caving without looking what blocks they're walking on and make this mistake that could cost them a lot of diamonds.
The more dangerous scenario is floating gravel on the floor, because in dark areas it blends with stone and andesite, and placing torches on it may collapse the whole floor on you into a cave, or indeed lava. This used to only be a problem in the nether since overworld gravel and sand would do a check and fall upon chunk loading, but that feature was removed so now it's a problem in both dimensions if you're not very careful.
Agreed, the real hazard is the deceptive terrain and where even the best of players can be caught off guard on.
We know enough to avoid ravines without the proper equipment to survive a fall in one, and to avoid lava lakes or oceans in the Nether without fire resistance potions active, and to be very careful when bridging the void in the End.
But in the dark it can be hard to tell gravel apart from other blocks that have a similar color or texture.
Floating gravel with lava above it is bad
Floating gravel over a pit is also bad
But without xray mods you have no way of knowing which is safe to traverse and which isn't.
I've found that placing torches on top of the gravel in cave systems helps, this will cause the gravel adjacent to collapse and fall into place, and since gravel cannot fall through a solid block whatever it lands on will make it safe to stand on.
The only real solution is to turn your brightness up, honestly. Some gravel patches are quite large.
At least for floating ceilings, you have the particles as hints. For grounds, nothing.
So I was moving my chest storage, and I decided the best way to do it would be to break all the chests then move them one at a time. I forgot about item despawn and lost over 2 and a half stacks of diamonds, as well as a lot of other valuables.
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Agreed, but large patches of gravel can be beneficial too. You want lots of concrete to build smooth textured ceilings or sidewalks? you've got a key ingredient right in front of you. Need lots of flint for making arrows? also no problem.
One must be careful to not allow hubris to consume them and think they're invulnerable just because they've got enchanted armour.
Being trapped in lava most certainly will kill you
In the Nether I can easily evade Ghasts, or shoot them down because of my marksmanship with my bow.
But environmental hazards in the Nether I do get concerned about, such as the gravel example you mentioned.
Also possible to lose diamonds you got this way, since Nether fortresses have chests which have diamonds or diamond horse armour.
I make a habit out of avoiding gravel when I can in the Nether, unless it is close enough to a netherrack floor that I can survive a fall and not on a cliff.
I'm not one for concrete nor arrow crafting, and I just stay in smaller caves in the nether most of the time, or set up 'safety sheleters' in larger areas (caves?).
Also yeah, hubris is bad. But you can just not wear or carry expensive stuff, ender chests help with that as do rail lines.
I prefer to travel lightly and presume death at any moment.
Uh, congrats? This topic's about losing not gaining...
No worries, I would’ve done the same. Silly mistakes like that, where a button was pressed accidentally, a brain fart, etc. is when I don’t mind a minor cheat to restore what you’ve lost. For example, late one night once I mining a gold block and thought I had activated my iron pickaxe. Suddenly the gold block breaks and i got zip.... and I realize I didn’t quite hit the iron pickaxe and instead got the stone one next to it. Well I turned cheats on and put that block right back in inventory.
OTOH, the only time I have given myself something I didn’t have already was a couple villagers when I was learning to defend a village. It was great practice to learn what did and did not work. Otherwise I really don’t like gifting yourself stuff. But that’s just my $.02
Brain farts are inevitable, but I'd say they're most likely to happen when we've been up all night and fatigue has started setting in.
Shouldn't play video games on a tired brain though, matter of fact it is a bad idea to do any task when this happens and common sense would suggest people should be asleep to get the rest they need.
Unless I've got caffeinated beverages I don't play Minecraft late at night because I've got too much important stuff that can be lost at a drop of a hat. I believe lizking10152011 who frequents my server has a similar routine.
The last time I lost diamonds? well they dropped in lava, not from dying, the diamonds dropped out of diamond ore because I failed to dig around them properly while I was mining, annoying but I accepted the loss and continued playing, not abused save states, because doing this encourages us to be more careful and be better players in the future.
but this was months ago.
What a mature player you are. (nod of approval)
Does anyone really rely on Drowned as a source of gold? C'mon, seriously? I didn't think so. Surely a few hours mining Badlands terrain will generate plenty of gold for Piglin trading, and then some. Far, far more productive than hoping for a gold drop from a Drowned kill.
I had been mining for about 3 hours with rotten luck. My goal was to get a full set of diamond armor and tools. I was about ready to give up but I found an 8 vein, and I needed 6 more, which was very lucky. I started to head back with all my diamonds and I arrive at the surface. I go into my house and I start to put all my diamonds into my chest when a creeper blows up beside me, destroying my chests, most of what was inside them, and all of the diamonds I had spent 3 hours getting. I quit that world out of anger.
Auto-farming...it's a thing. I don't personally like it but it is a thing.
How did the creeper blow up the stuff inside your chests??? I thought that the chest will just drop everything then.