Getting 200 cows with four other friends fighting in PvP is not an option. I'll be lucky to get a few cows now and then. Making a breeding farm isn't going to work unless my friends get wrapped up in their own fighting.
@MartinTheMess:
Perhaps you didn't get the point, so let me make it clear: I want to know the most efficient food that does not require more than one slot in order to use it in every possible way. This means that a single slot food item must be able to offer food and some method to farm it without any investment while offering a high amount of storage per slot of inventory.
What I also want to make clear is that Ender Chests are out of the question. If I start a brand new game and I'm fighting four different friends, making an Ender Chest is going to be damn near impossible since they may show up at any time and kill me, taking the chest for themselves. So the food cannot be meat, as they can just kill the cows and I have nothing. If I lose my melon or carrot farm, I have so many I can just remake it after killing them. Wheat isn't a good option as the same can happen and it only ever gives you one wheat (one third of a bread) each time you farm one. Not worthwhile.
Cooking is not a good thing. As I mentioned, but you failed to read, is that I'll be fighting. So all that you are talking about doesn't mean ****. How am I going to get a Fortune 3 pick, get a tree farm, and stay near a lava farm with four other people realizing what I'm doing and teaming up to kill me? It just won't work. PvP. Carrots or melons.
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Between carrots and melons. Carrots are easier to find than Melons, because you can get a carrot from a Zombie, plant it, wait for it to grow, and get more carrots. I think they heal hunger for about the same amount, but I'm not quite sure. I think a carrot heals for 2 hunger and the Melon may be 2.5-3.
My food of choice is the pumpkin pie. Get a farm set up for pumpkins, eggs, and sugar and you have an item that heals for 4 hunger. I never go anywhere without a stack of 64 pies.
Between carrots and melons. Carrots are easier to find than Melons, because you can get a carrot from a Zombie, plant it, wait for it to grow, and get more carrots. I think they heal hunger for about the same amount, but I'm not quite sure. I think a carrot heals for 2 hunger and the Melon may be 2.5-3.
My food of choice is the pumpkin pie. Get a farm set up for pumpkins, eggs, and sugar and you have an item that heals for 4 hunger. I never go anywhere without a stack of 64 pies.
That's your choice, and isn't good in PvP situations. All of the chickens and pumpkins can either be destroyed or pillaged by enemies for their own use.
Why do we have to discuss about the food, actually? Rotten flesh fixes most of the problems. But if you're talking about most efficient, wheat is very renewable, although individual bread can't do much. Wheat and bread is a good source of food, due to it's availability.
Carrots are the most efficient food if traveling or spelunking. But, if other food like meat is available, you should go with the meat, obviously. It fills up your hunger bar much faster than carrots, and it's not that hard to find since cows/pigs/chickens are nearly everywhere. But carrots are great if animals aren't nearby. Much better than melons, definitely. Not very easy to find unless you run into a village or happen to get one from a zombie, though.
I'm bringing it up because zombie flesh isn't an option. It's asinine. I haven't tried it, but I do know that eating zombie flesh will end up leaving you at 8 drumsticks since it decays two drumsticks worth over time. Sure it's the most abundant food when adventuring and arguably the easiest to get, but it isn't worth it. It becomes a very horrible method to obtain food when you have one or more players hunting you while even one zombie is near.
As to wheat, it isn't a good farming food. It requires more stationary time than melons and offers a much slower rate of return. Sure you can quickly make more and more farms since you get 1-3 or 1-4 seeds each time without enchanted items, but it only ever gives you one wheat. Additionally, my friends can come by and simply plop down one bucket of water and ruin many fields worth of wheat. If they don't do that, they can simply kill me and try to harvest it for themselves.
@Mooshyroom:
Yes, hence why I bring up carrots and melons. Melons require more stationary time, which is bad in PvP but carrots require less. However carrots offer less capacity over time. Yet melons are easier to find depending on where you spawn and what you run into.
I'm not using meat because the world won't be populated with cows/pigs, or at least I'm not going to consider it. I'm preparing for the fact that most or all of them will have been killed by my friends so I'll at least have a backup option ready.
On a side note, I've calculated which food has the absolute best storage capacity when looking at just food:
A full stack of melons offers 3-7 times the stack in melons, and each melon gives one drumstick (2 hunger), for a range of 192-448 drumsticks, with an average of 320 drumsticks.
A full stack of Hay Bale offers three full stacks of bread, after being crafted in the crafting table. This offers 192 bread, and each bread offers 2.5 drumsticks (5 hunger), for a total restoration of 480 drumsticks.
Carrots will soon only restore 1.5 drumsticks, so a full stack will offer 96 drumsticks. This can't compare to the capacity of melons or wheat by a long shot.
A full stack of Steaks offers a total of 256 drumsticks, as each piece offers 4 drumsticks worth.
It really comes down to:
1. If I can sit down, wheat is the best hands down. It can be started at the beginning of the game and offers the highest capacity and is reliable. It's weakness is that it doesn't do anything for you early on and is weak to pillaging from PvP.
2. Melons require about the same amount of stationary investment as wheat, but offers a constant supply once running. It has lower capacity, is hard to find, and therefor isn't really an option.
3. Carrots are easy to farm but are hardest to find. Another disadvantage is that they offer much less than any other food due to capacity and restoration.
Looks like wheat/bread is the way to go. Sucks that you only get one wheat per block though.
That's your choice, and isn't good in PvP situations. All of the chickens and pumpkins can either be destroyed or pillaged by enemies for their own use.
Carrots can be dug up just as easily as well. Unless you have them enclosed in something that is unbreakable then you will have carrots stolen from you as well.
Also I don't play online, so I was just saying what I use in single player. Which is pumpkin pies.
Carrots can be dug up just as easily as well. Unless you have them enclosed in something that is unbreakable then you will have carrots stolen from you as well.
Also I don't play online, so I was just saying what I use in single player. Which is pumpkin pies.
Carrots grow much, much faster than melons, pumpkins, and wheat. This makes it harder to pillage them.
I agree. Despite the authors suggestion potatoes remain the best food in the game. Now that campfires can cook your potatoes for free; they are just ludicrously efficient.
Getting 200 cows with four other friends fighting in PvP is not an option. I'll be lucky to get a few cows now and then. Making a breeding farm isn't going to work unless my friends get wrapped up in their own fighting.
@MartinTheMess:
Perhaps you didn't get the point, so let me make it clear: I want to know the most efficient food that does not require more than one slot in order to use it in every possible way. This means that a single slot food item must be able to offer food and some method to farm it without any investment while offering a high amount of storage per slot of inventory.
What I also want to make clear is that Ender Chests are out of the question. If I start a brand new game and I'm fighting four different friends, making an Ender Chest is going to be damn near impossible since they may show up at any time and kill me, taking the chest for themselves. So the food cannot be meat, as they can just kill the cows and I have nothing. If I lose my melon or carrot farm, I have so many I can just remake it after killing them. Wheat isn't a good option as the same can happen and it only ever gives you one wheat (one third of a bread) each time you farm one. Not worthwhile.
Cooking is not a good thing. As I mentioned, but you failed to read, is that I'll be fighting. So all that you are talking about doesn't mean ****. How am I going to get a Fortune 3 pick, get a tree farm, and stay near a lava farm with four other people realizing what I'm doing and teaming up to kill me? It just won't work. PvP. Carrots or melons.
@TheMasterCaver:
I suggest you read the contents of this post.
My food of choice is the pumpkin pie. Get a farm set up for pumpkins, eggs, and sugar and you have an item that heals for 4 hunger. I never go anywhere without a stack of 64 pies.
That's your choice, and isn't good in PvP situations. All of the chickens and pumpkins can either be destroyed or pillaged by enemies for their own use.
I'm bringing it up because zombie flesh isn't an option. It's asinine. I haven't tried it, but I do know that eating zombie flesh will end up leaving you at 8 drumsticks since it decays two drumsticks worth over time. Sure it's the most abundant food when adventuring and arguably the easiest to get, but it isn't worth it. It becomes a very horrible method to obtain food when you have one or more players hunting you while even one zombie is near.
As to wheat, it isn't a good farming food. It requires more stationary time than melons and offers a much slower rate of return. Sure you can quickly make more and more farms since you get 1-3 or 1-4 seeds each time without enchanted items, but it only ever gives you one wheat. Additionally, my friends can come by and simply plop down one bucket of water and ruin many fields worth of wheat. If they don't do that, they can simply kill me and try to harvest it for themselves.
@Mooshyroom:
Yes, hence why I bring up carrots and melons. Melons require more stationary time, which is bad in PvP but carrots require less. However carrots offer less capacity over time. Yet melons are easier to find depending on where you spawn and what you run into.
I'm not using meat because the world won't be populated with cows/pigs, or at least I'm not going to consider it. I'm preparing for the fact that most or all of them will have been killed by my friends so I'll at least have a backup option ready.
On a side note, I've calculated which food has the absolute best storage capacity when looking at just food:
A full stack of melons offers 3-7 times the stack in melons, and each melon gives one drumstick (2 hunger), for a range of 192-448 drumsticks, with an average of 320 drumsticks.
A full stack of Hay Bale offers three full stacks of bread, after being crafted in the crafting table. This offers 192 bread, and each bread offers 2.5 drumsticks (5 hunger), for a total restoration of 480 drumsticks.
Carrots will soon only restore 1.5 drumsticks, so a full stack will offer 96 drumsticks. This can't compare to the capacity of melons or wheat by a long shot.
A full stack of Steaks offers a total of 256 drumsticks, as each piece offers 4 drumsticks worth.
It really comes down to:
1. If I can sit down, wheat is the best hands down. It can be started at the beginning of the game and offers the highest capacity and is reliable. It's weakness is that it doesn't do anything for you early on and is weak to pillaging from PvP.
2. Melons require about the same amount of stationary investment as wheat, but offers a constant supply once running. It has lower capacity, is hard to find, and therefor isn't really an option.
3. Carrots are easy to farm but are hardest to find. Another disadvantage is that they offer much less than any other food due to capacity and restoration.
Looks like wheat/bread is the way to go. Sucks that you only get one wheat per block though.
Carrots can be dug up just as easily as well. Unless you have them enclosed in something that is unbreakable then you will have carrots stolen from you as well.
Also I don't play online, so I was just saying what I use in single player. Which is pumpkin pies.
Carrots grow much, much faster than melons, pumpkins, and wheat. This makes it harder to pillage them.
I agree. Despite the authors suggestion potatoes remain the best food in the game. Now that campfires can cook your potatoes for free; they are just ludicrously efficient.