My point with this is, if you're going to take the time to find the thread, read the replies, why not take the time to make a good reply? "I like this idea" is incredibly lazy response, and adds nothing for discussion to a presumably dead thread. If you actually care about the thread you are bringing back, why not at least try to make a good response?
I agree here too, but some people don't or can't think of what to say, and as a matter of idealism, bumping a thread for viewership is not wrong as far as I'm concerned, but, like I already said, is an unwieldy idea as a matter of policy.
"This suggestion is still relevant, disagreements?" <-- This stimulates the discussion as it creates an open voice for the suggestion.
Often, some moderators are wracked and annoyed so they hastily close a thread. This doesn't make them evil or wrong, only human. If they close a thread that you feel deserves to remain open, nearly every moderator I've seen on this site is friendly and open enough to review their decision and will more-often-than-naught either reopen or state why they have closed it.
I think you should add a small section regarding people who say "This would be too hard to code." It is rather annoying when you see a masterpiece of an idea and the first response is: "Nope, too hard to code, GTFO." We've seen it on some of the best suggestion threads out there. Frankly, if things were not done because they were challenging, we'd all be sitting in caves because making houses is too hard. We'd be shivering because no one bothered to unlock the secrets of fire.
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Was that always there and I missed it? Or did you just add that?
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As time passes, I'm getting more and more various definitions of honor. I'll post the various definitions again so that you won't have to search the thread for them.
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My view on honor in combat:
It is said that to hide behind a shield is cowardice? How so? How does improving one's survival in a battle among equals promote the fleeting sign of dishonorable combat?
Is it not my shield which repels your weapon? Is it not my shield which shatters your bones? Is it not my shield which smashes you into a wall as my other weapons finish you off.
Who is more honorable? The one who has killed a score of you? Or the one whose great strength of honor has lost to my simple act of cowardice?
In a world where honor can be lost by a simple errant slip of the tongue, it is much more honorable to return home to your family and those you love; savoring the fruits of victory. Or is it more honorable to be broken, your righteous innards strewn over the pikes of the victor which skewered you alive as you watch your already dead brethren picked apart by vultures? Surely, death is honor.
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For me, honor is all about how pepole can rely on you, can be safe know that you will be fair and will preform your duties and followthrough on your responsibilities. If you don't, it's unhonorably.
This is sort of a long shot of a connection, but in minecraft, I think that to be honorable means to follow the rules of a server, especially when the rules are ones that cannot be enforced well or at all. Don't fly on a survival server, don't grief on a build server. It's simple stuff that build honor, and being honored (to me) is very similar to being trusted and respected.
All people liked to be honored, but sometimes the need for other things (wealth, revenge, lulz) can be come so great that they out weighed that desire to be honorable. They steel, murder, and destroy. In real life, police and prisons discourage crimes with more punishment then being disgraced, but in minecraft, and anywhere online, your identity is hidden, you cannot be punished, and the lack of honor dose not spread to elsewhere easily. This is why I belive honor has such less context on the internet, that the online world is such a chaotic world that it is: People lose their prospective on honor, and only those who care the most uphold the rules and responsibilities of the internet communities.
My definition of honor would be: something you automatically achieve by being exposed to a society where honor is given to you. But i think it can also be created if you are exposed to a society where almost no honor occurs. Of course, each and every one of us has their own view of honor, and i think that is great, because i also believe that our sense of honor is a part of what defines who we are.
To me personally (my sense of honor), honor is to achieve my goals in the "right" or "honorable" way. In my case, my only goal is knowledge.
Honor in combat: I guess that depends on who/what you are fighting for. I do not think it is honorable for a soldier to fight in a war if his reason simply is because he likes to fight or kill. Also, i do not think it is honorable to war over religion or beliefs. You have no right to kill people simply because they have a different belief than you. However, if you fight for your loved ones, your rights, or simply to stay alive, i think that is one of the most honorable things you can do.
Honor in politics: In countries with dictatorship and communism, i think there isn't much honor to politics, since the average man/woman cant really make a change. But even in the democratic governments we have today in the western world, honorless-nes is a factor. For example, the so-called "global warming" seems to fit perfectly with the governments wallet. Also, those governments "muffle" other theories and factors,for example cosmic rays (the government cant seem to tax cosmic rays, can they?) Honor in politics could do allot better.
gonna say that honor starts after a lot of other virtues, and is related to how consistently and in which way those other virtues manifest.
So a slave owner may kill his slave for disobeying him, and may not be dishonorable because he doesn't know any better. In such a case he is ignorant and confused as far as I'm concerned.
Honor is upheld when one acts in accordance with one's sense of right and wrong on a deep level. Watching someone get beat and refusing to aid them out of fear of being hurt can be dishonorable, but if one avoids jumping into the fray because he or she knows that he cannot get hurt so that he may later complete his job successfully to get money and feed his child . . . Poor man, his soul might be tormented, but I think it is a better choice to not get involved. Is it the honorable choice? At this point I don't know. I think then maybe I would not call him dishonorable, but he upholds a practicality that is more important than honor.
In our more mundane forum world, honor manifests as evidence of self-mastery. Those who are useful are honorable, though not particularly so. Those who are useful but are only useful in exchange for merit are not honorable.
My definition of honor is not like a knight or a samurai, but a definition of how good (moral/ethic-wise) a person is. The aim is not to "defend" what he has or believes in, but to condone others and their needs. This isn't to say that an honorable person has no beliefs, but it is important that he allows others to believe what they want as well.
This person should always be honest, amicable and tolerant. Even if he disagrees with another person's actions, beliefs, or lifestyle, he will remain tolerant and treat them as another human being, refraining from openly insulting their views. He avoids getting angry, as that would make him lose control of his actions and words.
The main goal of an honorable person is to not harm another person (emotionally or physically), or do anything that could result in harming another.
Although I voted "Yes, verbatim" I would like it very much, if it would also contain a general "How to use this forum".
When I joined the forums, I had to ask around a lot how to post pictures or how to edit a thread title. I think it would be helping a lot of people if there were some general guides how to use the forums here.
If you're talking a bbcode tutorial, it's not really our jobs as there are plenty of tutorials. However... I can see about adding one that directly works with suggesting.
I didn't even know what a "bbcode" means up to 5 minutes ago. The point is, even a bbcode tutorial wouldn't tell you in two sentences, that you have to upload your pics to a Uploader and link it back here, for example.
I'm pretty sure lots of people never have been to any forum before starting here, so I just guessed a short summary of the "Frequently Asked Questions" could be really nice.
Also I guess it may spare you reading some very bad titled topics ^^
The only thing in the OP that I can really disagree with is what was said about "Already Suggested" and "Use Search". Quite frankly, it doesn't matter if you find links or not. Do not post these. Take your links, and your AS/US criticism, and direct it to the report button, as the rules state. If you are aware that something is a repeat post, then you are aware it is spam, and posting in the topic at all is just increasing the spam. Don't do it.
It is important, for a moderator's standpoint, that you provide such links so they can quickly verify the location of the original. Without this, they cannot readily verify that the thread is indeed redundant.
If it wasn't for that, I would be all sorts of report button.
The link is not just for that. It's so that the OP of that thread knows to search in the future, and can find a better written previous article of the same implementation.
Outside of my above views, I agree with your statement.
It is important, for a moderator's standpoint, that you provide such links so they can quickly verify the location of the original. Without this, they cannot readily verify that the thread is indeed redundant.
If it wasn't for that, I would be all sorts of report button.
The link is not just for that. It's so that the OP of that thread knows to search in the future, and can find a better written previous article of the same implementation.
Outside of my above views, I agree with your statement.
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That's why I say not to post telling the person. It's not just my opinion, it's the rules. If you make a post telling someone that they have violated the rules, then you have broken the rules yourself...and you should probably quote that in your first post, I don't think enough people see it.
Hmm, I'll take as such into consideration. I honestly have the opinion of telling the other poster where the source material is so they don't have the brilliant idea of creating a new topic after the old one has closed. I view it as only courteous and considerate.
If I state, "Unfortunately, another topic exists here(url) as it discusses points 1,2,3." I am not spamming with a rule infraction and have provided the OP with a resource he may not have considered at the time. This is not the same as "No redundant topics!" which is inflammatory rule throwing.
Also, saying that a person broke the rules does not mean that you have reported them. Many people assume they are one in the same, but there are more than a fair share of people who like to give friendly reminders than simply spamming the report button.
I will, however, add this tidbit into the OP. If you do not have anything to add to the discussion but wish to report the user; do not post, only report.
Since "Unfortunately, another topic exists here(url) as it discusses points 1,2,3." or some facsimile DOES continue and encourage discussion without becoming inflammatory, it does not break the rules.
The rules may be detailed, but they really boil down to "have respect for your fellow poster".
I'd personally like it if you told the OP that it had already been posted, and provided a link. It removes an extra step, where the moderator would have to explain why he's locking the thread. But maybe I'm just lazy.
I agree here too, but some people don't or can't think of what to say, and as a matter of idealism, bumping a thread for viewership is not wrong as far as I'm concerned, but, like I already said, is an unwieldy idea as a matter of policy.
Often, some moderators are wracked and annoyed so they hastily close a thread. This doesn't make them evil or wrong, only human. If they close a thread that you feel deserves to remain open, nearly every moderator I've seen on this site is friendly and open enough to review their decision and will more-often-than-naught either reopen or state why they have closed it.
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It's so spiffy!
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When I joined the forums, I had to ask around a lot how to post pictures or how to edit a thread title. I think it would be helping a lot of people if there were some general guides how to use the forums here.
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I'm pretty sure lots of people never have been to any forum before starting here, so I just guessed a short summary of the "Frequently Asked Questions" could be really nice.
Also I guess it may spare you reading some very bad titled topics ^^
So thank you very much for considering it !
If it wasn't for that, I would be all sorts of report button.
The link is not just for that. It's so that the OP of that thread knows to search in the future, and can find a better written previous article of the same implementation.
Outside of my above views, I agree with your statement.
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Ahem...
That's why I say not to post telling the person. It's not just my opinion, it's the rules. If you make a post telling someone that they have violated the rules, then you have broken the rules yourself...and you should probably quote that in your first post, I don't think enough people see it.
If I state, "Unfortunately, another topic exists here(url) as it discusses points 1,2,3." I am not spamming with a rule infraction and have provided the OP with a resource he may not have considered at the time. This is not the same as "No redundant topics!" which is inflammatory rule throwing.
Also, saying that a person broke the rules does not mean that you have reported them. Many people assume they are one in the same, but there are more than a fair share of people who like to give friendly reminders than simply spamming the report button.
I will, however, add this tidbit into the OP. If you do not have anything to add to the discussion but wish to report the user; do not post, only report.
Since "Unfortunately, another topic exists here(url) as it discusses points 1,2,3." or some facsimile DOES continue and encourage discussion without becoming inflammatory, it does not break the rules.
The rules may be detailed, but they really boil down to "have respect for your fellow poster".
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