The reason why most people play pvp in 1.8.9. is because the combat update. But what if the minecraft community adds a 1.17 version with the combat update and without the combat update. Servers such ass Hypixel would have so much more inspiration for gamemodes and updates and the game would be so much more fun with all the new textures, mobs, tools and structures. Also, the combat update is not going away because if we make two versions, one with and one without their wont be any protest.
Also, most people do not still play on 1.8, which is almost dead; in fact, there are currently only 12 active servers on 1.8.9 and 207 servers on 1.8.8 - but a whopping 9428, nearly half of all active servers, are on 1.16.5 and nearly all others are on some version of 1.16; even 1.12.2 still has 11 times more servers (most 1.7.10 servers are probably using mods, not because of the combat, and even here what was once the most popular version ever for mods (now 1.12.2) is slowly but surely dying out):
The same can be done for other things like weapon attack damage (i.e. swords and axes deal the same damage as before 1.9) and armor toughness (set to a very high value so armor effectively acts the same as before 1.9); enchanted golden apples can be made craftable again by adding a custom recipe, maybe even made to give you Regeneration V, but even if a server plugin is needed client-side mods should not be required to undo most if not all changes.
Nor does the game suffer from a lack of popularity; I always love how people claim that the game had a major depression (2016-2018) or revival (2019-2020) when it never did in terms of monthly active players, just steady, continuous growth (the chart seems to show a jump in 2020 but the previous data point was from 2018, while the others are closer together):
That is so untrue, because almost every 1.16 server is a smp and that not counts. And I think 1.9 + servers are very very small. The most populair minecraft server is Hypixel with 1.8 pvp mechanics. People just like 1.8 pvp more than 1.16 pvp and if mojang would make their game more populair this is 100% the way.
I also asked it on the Hypixel forum and almost everyone likes the idea, so here is the change for mojang to make the game 2 times more populair!!!
That doesn't mean anything. A LOT of ideas are popular, that doesn't mean they're good enough to add to vanilla MInecraft which everyone in the world will have to deal with. A lot of people like... *dry heave* *shutter* Herob- *cringe* Herobrine.
The reason why most people play pvp in 1.8.9. is because the combat update. But what if the minecraft community adds a 1.17 version with the combat update and without the combat update.
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope. Ain't gonna happen. You're also excruciatingly late to the party. Like, unspeakably late. This suggestion has been coming in since like 2015, and it's been shot down. The developers haven't even given an astral metaphysical shimmy to move near the micro-thought of this idea. There's not going to be a back button on this update. Mojang isn't gonna continuously update their game while trying to balance two separate combat versions. There's not gonna be an update where we can just "turn off the combat update whenever we want".
Not to sound nasty, but unless people are straight up playing an older version, the present and future isn't getting rid of the combat update by even 0.01%. This has already been established a million times like 5 years ago. Players are gonna have to mentally accept that it's here to stay.
Servers such ass Hypixel would have so much more inspiration for gamemodes and updates and the game would be so much more fun with all the new textures, mobs, tools and structures. Also, the combat update is not going away because if we make two versions, one with and one without their wont be any protest.
BzzZZZzzTT!! No, that's not how it works. Again, you're using one of the most common fallacies this forum has ever known since 2011. "If we have both! Everyone wins!!" That's not how proper game design works, dude. Not everything works with just turning things into an on/off switch. The combat update was a big, big change which really controls balance.
The combat update was meant to be a permanent revamp, not a test bed. And I don't see the big deal. Spam clicking wasn't removed like everyone thinks, it was just made not as effective. And we got shields that we can design, so what's the big deal? There's always playing on an easier difficulty.
That is so untrue, because almost every 1.16 server is a smp and that not counts. And I think 1.9 + servers are very very small. The most populair minecraft server is Hypixel with 1.8 pvp mechanics. People just like 1.8 pvp more than 1.16 pvp and if mojang would make their game more populair this is 100% the way.
LOLno dude, it's not untrue. This guy just showed you the statistics and you just straight up go "untrue!". This is just you projecting. Don't say "this is 100% the way" like you got the game design answers right in front of you. Again, that dude gave you the stats. The game is not suffering, you're unholy late to this idea and the combat update is staying forever. It's already been 6 years.
almost everyone hates the combat update, its only good for survival. Literally nobody plays 1.9 + pvp. The biggest minecraft server is Hypixel and it has 1.8 pvp mechanics. Also you dont HAVE to play 1.17 without the combat update, its just for the pvp community. The only reason why mojang wont do this is because they dont care about the pvp community and that is so dumb because that is one of the biggest things in minecraft.
If you don’t want to make ur game 10 times more populair mojang, just don’t listen to the biggest part of ur players and keep ignoring the pvp community.
sounds like the smartest thing you can do.
or you can listen to the biggest community of ur game and make TWO 1.17 versions, one with and one without. Cause nobody plays 1.9+ pvp. But for survival the combat update is better. So would everyone enjoy the game more.
If you don’t want to make ur game 10 times more populair mojang, just don’t listen to the biggest part of ur players and keep ignoring the pvp community.
sounds like the smartest thing you can do.
or you can listen to the biggest community of ur game and make TWO 1.17 versions, one with and one without. Cause nobody plays 1.9+ pvp. But for survival the combat update is better. So would everyone enjoy the game more.
Or you can just use commands to remove the cooldown and other "bad" things:
I am not sure but i think this is not possible on hypixel because why aren’t they using this command on their server. I mean they wanted something like this for a long time.
The reason why most people play pvp in 1.8.9. is because the combat update. But what if the minecraft community adds a 1.17 version with the combat update and without the combat update. Servers such ass Hypixel would have so much more inspiration for gamemodes and updates and the game would be so much more fun with all the new textures, mobs, tools and structures. Also, the combat update is not going away because if we make two versions, one with and one without their wont be any protest.
pls let me know if you found it a good idea.
greeting Aapoos
I also asked it on the Hypixel forum and almost everyone likes the idea, so here is the change for mojang to make the game 2 times more populair!!!
Mojang is never, ever going to do this, period:
Also, most people do not still play on 1.8, which is almost dead; in fact, there are currently only 12 active servers on 1.8.9 and 207 servers on 1.8.8 - but a whopping 9428, nearly half of all active servers, are on 1.16.5 and nearly all others are on some version of 1.16; even 1.12.2 still has 11 times more servers (most 1.7.10 servers are probably using mods, not because of the combat, and even here what was once the most popular version ever for mods (now 1.12.2) is slowly but surely dying out):
https://minecraft-statistic.net/en/global_statistic.html
You can even already remove the "1.9 combat" with some simple commands, not even mods or plugins are required:
The same can be done for other things like weapon attack damage (i.e. swords and axes deal the same damage as before 1.9) and armor toughness (set to a very high value so armor effectively acts the same as before 1.9); enchanted golden apples can be made craftable again by adding a custom recipe, maybe even made to give you Regeneration V, but even if a server plugin is needed client-side mods should not be required to undo most if not all changes.
Nor does the game suffer from a lack of popularity; I always love how people claim that the game had a major depression (2016-2018) or revival (2019-2020) when it never did in terms of monthly active players, just steady, continuous growth (the chart seems to show a jump in 2020 but the previous data point was from 2018, while the others are closer together):
https://www.statista.com/statistics/680139/minecraft-active-players-worldwide/
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
That is so untrue, because almost every 1.16 server is a smp and that not counts. And I think 1.9 + servers are very very small. The most populair minecraft server is Hypixel with 1.8 pvp mechanics. People just like 1.8 pvp more than 1.16 pvp and if mojang would make their game more populair this is 100% the way.
That doesn't mean anything. A LOT of ideas are popular, that doesn't mean they're good enough to add to vanilla MInecraft which everyone in the world will have to deal with. A lot of people like... *dry heave* *shutter* Herob- *cringe* Herobrine.
Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope. Ain't gonna happen. You're also excruciatingly late to the party. Like, unspeakably late. This suggestion has been coming in since like 2015, and it's been shot down. The developers haven't even given an astral metaphysical shimmy to move near the micro-thought of this idea. There's not going to be a back button on this update. Mojang isn't gonna continuously update their game while trying to balance two separate combat versions. There's not gonna be an update where we can just "turn off the combat update whenever we want".
Not to sound nasty, but unless people are straight up playing an older version, the present and future isn't getting rid of the combat update by even 0.01%. This has already been established a million times like 5 years ago. Players are gonna have to mentally accept that it's here to stay.
BzzZZZzzTT!! No, that's not how it works. Again, you're using one of the most common fallacies this forum has ever known since 2011. "If we have both! Everyone wins!!" That's not how proper game design works, dude. Not everything works with just turning things into an on/off switch. The combat update was a big, big change which really controls balance.
The combat update was meant to be a permanent revamp, not a test bed. And I don't see the big deal. Spam clicking wasn't removed like everyone thinks, it was just made not as effective. And we got shields that we can design, so what's the big deal? There's always playing on an easier difficulty.
Not to be mean, but no.
Sup.
LOLno dude, it's not untrue. This guy just showed you the statistics and you just straight up go "untrue!". This is just you projecting. Don't say "this is 100% the way" like you got the game design answers right in front of you. Again, that dude gave you the stats. The game is not suffering, you're unholy late to this idea and the combat update is staying forever. It's already been 6 years.
almost everyone hates the combat update, its only good for survival. Literally nobody plays 1.9 + pvp. The biggest minecraft server is Hypixel and it has 1.8 pvp mechanics. Also you dont HAVE to play 1.17 without the combat update, its just for the pvp community. The only reason why mojang wont do this is because they dont care about the pvp community and that is so dumb because that is one of the biggest things in minecraft.
If you don’t want to make ur game 10 times more populair mojang, just don’t listen to the biggest part of ur players and keep ignoring the pvp community.
sounds like the smartest thing you can do.
or you can listen to the biggest community of ur game and make TWO 1.17 versions, one with and one without. Cause nobody plays 1.9+ pvp. But for survival the combat update is better. So would everyone enjoy the game more.
Or you can just use commands to remove the cooldown and other "bad" things:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/hpoqf2/how_to_remove_cooldown_in_minecraft_116_with/ (for removing cooldown)
https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/270082/is-there-a-way-to-make-an-item-that-has-extra-armor-or-armor-toughness (for removing armor penetration)
https://www.planetminecraft.com/data-pack/notch-s-apple-crafting-recipe/ (re-adding craftable Notch apples. I'm sure that commands can be used to make them give you Regeneration V as well, if not, a simple server plugin that requires no client-side mods could)
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
I am not sure but i think this is not possible on hypixel because why aren’t they using this command on their server. I mean they wanted something like this for a long time.
Do you think its possible for hypixel?