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Simply put, a door that's 2x3 rather than 1x2.
Normal doors do the trick a lot of the time for houses, interiors and smaller buildings. However, when we get to the castle scale, it does seem a little off to have the same dinky little door you might use for a cellar as the main entrance. It would also finally a provide a door fit for a stable you can ride your horse through. Put two of them together and you've got something much more impressive than a wooden door without getting a complex redstone mechanism involved.
The whole opening ordeal might be a little more difficult to figure out than for normal doors, however, as it would need to check that the 4 blocks it resides in during either state are not obstructed and if they are, prevent the player from opening them.
I figure this would make a nice addition to the arsenal of furniture builders have to their disposal, as well as providing some form of functionality in survival when it comes to securing stables. Perhaps even make them a bit more durable than the normal doors and they could make for some hefty town gates for villages.
Now, I'd prefer a way to build more customizable doors, maybe by using a small set of different glass-pane-like or trapdoor-like blocks that could be conjoined into one solid door on a hinge, but having 2x3 versions of the current doors would definitely be a step up.
Support.
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No Support. You can already build 2xn piston doors relatively easily using basic redstone (and I've recently learnt how to do 3x3 doors). There are some situations where you don't have the space to do so. However:
- In Survival, you don't need to build a door that big; just use a smaller piston door or a standard wooden/iron door.
No Support. You can already build 2xn piston doors relatively easily using basic redstone (and I've recently learnt how to do 3x3 doors). There are some situations where you don't have the space to do so. However:
- In Survival, you don't need to build a door that big; just use a smaller piston door or a standard wooden/iron door.
- In Creative, just use commands.
So it can be done a different way. But that doesn't mean new features shouldn't be added, especially if these new features will make the game easier for (especially new) players. For instance see the following arguments:
Why add rocket-powered elytra flight? You can already fly forever using a punch 2 bow
Why add horses when you can already ride pigs?
Why update the lighting and rendering engines? It takes work from Mojang, and the old one works, even if it is laggy/slow/buggy/etc
Why add ore storage blocks (coal blocks, iron blocks, diamond blocks, etc)? You can store the ores fine, just add more chests!
See why this line of reasoning leads to madness? Plus, bigger doors would be a massive boon to the building community -- imagine all the people who don't know much about redstone who can now make bigger builds with to-scale doors.
And, piston mechanics are sometimes unintuitive, especially for new players, so piston doors can be difficult.
No Support. You can already build 2xn piston doors relatively easily using basic redstone (and I've recently learnt how to do 3x3 doors). There are some situations where you don't have the space to do so. However:
- In Survival, you don't need to build a door that big; just use a smaller piston door or a standard wooden/iron door.
- In Creative, just use commands.
Pirateboy responded to this and I think he was just off the mark, but I think the "Rocket-Powered Elytra flight" one is an appropriate example here.
But let's not even go that far. As you mentioned, a 2x1 piston door is possible with redstone. Therefore, why did Mojang add new door blocks? Why did they add concrete when there are a lot of different colored blocks including wool? Why did they add crafting tables in the first place for that matter when they could've just let the player craft 3x3 recipes in the inventory with practically no loss to gameplay? There are plenty of features in the game that could either be wrapped up into a far more simplistic feature or are completely pointless besides aesthetic value.
Also, are we going to screen all new features in the future just because either redstone or commands can replace them? This argument is almost as bad as the "If you want this feature, use a mod" argument. I'm not saying the redstone or command argument is never valid, but you can't judge every new feature by whether or not you can replace it with either. In addition to that, consider the fact that, as you said, redstone takes up massive amounts of space and it's incredibly difficult to hide it, especially in smaller builds.
If you're going to argue that a redstone equivalent invalidates the need for a suggested feature, at the very least the feature:
- Should have little to no aesthetic value
- Should be functionally equal to the redstone equivalent
- Should not save large amounts of space that would otherwise be filled by the redstone equivalent.
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My avatar is a texture from a small block game I made in Python. It's not very good and it probably won't work if you install it.
I'm very alone in my Minecraft worlds as I don't have a very good internet connection to run a server. If you're like me, you might be interested in my Posse mod suggestion.
Simply put, a door that's 2x3 rather than 1x2.
Normal doors do the trick a lot of the time for houses, interiors and smaller buildings. However, when we get to the castle scale, it does seem a little off to have the same dinky little door you might use for a cellar as the main entrance. It would also finally a provide a door fit for a stable you can ride your horse through. Put two of them together and you've got something much more impressive than a wooden door without getting a complex redstone mechanism involved.
The whole opening ordeal might be a little more difficult to figure out than for normal doors, however, as it would need to check that the 4 blocks it resides in during either state are not obstructed and if they are, prevent the player from opening them.
I figure this would make a nice addition to the arsenal of furniture builders have to their disposal, as well as providing some form of functionality in survival when it comes to securing stables. Perhaps even make them a bit more durable than the normal doors and they could make for some hefty town gates for villages.
Yes.
Now, I'd prefer a way to build more customizable doors, maybe by using a small set of different glass-pane-like or trapdoor-like blocks that could be conjoined into one solid door on a hinge, but having 2x3 versions of the current doors would definitely be a step up.
Support.
My avatar is a texture from a small block game I made in Python. It's not very good and it probably won't work if you install it.
I'm very alone in my Minecraft worlds as I don't have a very good internet connection to run a server. If you're like me, you might be interested in my Posse mod suggestion.
No Support. You can already build 2xn piston doors relatively easily using basic redstone (and I've recently learnt how to do 3x3 doors). There are some situations where you don't have the space to do so. However:
- In Survival, you don't need to build a door that big; just use a smaller piston door or a standard wooden/iron door.
- In Creative, just use commands.
My suggestions: Enhancements - Throwable Fire Charges - On Phantoms and Elytra. Also check out The Minecraftian Language. This signature is not here to waste your space.
So it can be done a different way. But that doesn't mean new features shouldn't be added, especially if these new features will make the game easier for (especially new) players. For instance see the following arguments:
See why this line of reasoning leads to madness? Plus, bigger doors would be a massive boon to the building community -- imagine all the people who don't know much about redstone who can now make bigger builds with to-scale doors.
And, piston mechanics are sometimes unintuitive, especially for new players, so piston doors can be difficult.
Overall, 100% Support.
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Pirateboy responded to this and I think he was just off the mark, but I think the "Rocket-Powered Elytra flight" one is an appropriate example here.
But let's not even go that far. As you mentioned, a 2x1 piston door is possible with redstone. Therefore, why did Mojang add new door blocks? Why did they add concrete when there are a lot of different colored blocks including wool? Why did they add crafting tables in the first place for that matter when they could've just let the player craft 3x3 recipes in the inventory with practically no loss to gameplay? There are plenty of features in the game that could either be wrapped up into a far more simplistic feature or are completely pointless besides aesthetic value.
Also, are we going to screen all new features in the future just because either redstone or commands can replace them? This argument is almost as bad as the "If you want this feature, use a mod" argument. I'm not saying the redstone or command argument is never valid, but you can't judge every new feature by whether or not you can replace it with either. In addition to that, consider the fact that, as you said, redstone takes up massive amounts of space and it's incredibly difficult to hide it, especially in smaller builds.
If you're going to argue that a redstone equivalent invalidates the need for a suggested feature, at the very least the feature:
- Should have little to no aesthetic value
- Should be functionally equal to the redstone equivalent
- Should not save large amounts of space that would otherwise be filled by the redstone equivalent.
My avatar is a texture from a small block game I made in Python. It's not very good and it probably won't work if you install it.
I'm very alone in my Minecraft worlds as I don't have a very good internet connection to run a server. If you're like me, you might be interested in my Posse mod suggestion.