No Support, Because 2.0 is a huge overhaul. 1.10 is just an normal update that fixes bugs. OFF-TOPIC:I would prefer naming the updates like 1.1.0, 1.2.0, 1.3.0, 1.4.0, 1.5.0, 1.6.0, 1.7.0, 1.8.0, 1.9.0 and 1.10.0.
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If you took all the "minor" changes from 1.2 all the way to 1.9 and rolled them up, would that be minor or major? There has been an overhaul to the code. Just look at the changelog. It's not even the same game anymore. I mean the core mechanics are still there but it has changed SO much, that I think it deserves the 2.0 moniker.
Nope and nope.
I don't think I've ever seen any other user in the world go berzerk over a version number as much as you. "It's not even the same game anymore". Yes, yes it is. A ton of new stuff doesn't mean "diff3rent game!!"
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I know I am going to receive hate for this but 2.0 actually makes sense compared to 1.10. if you have ever seen how decimal numbers work, 1.10 would be like saying 1.1. Why? Because the 0 on the end of the 1 just is adding another decimal place (100ths). It is not making a change, most people who know a thing or two about math might think it means 1.1. It's the same with version numbers. Most programs use 2.0 after 1.9. Minecraft is the first program I have ever seen that is going to use this, so it would make more sense just to use 2.0.
Dinnerbone has already said it would be 1.10. Also, I don't think the majority of players are children. Besides that, I think they are more concerned with the gameplay and not the version number.
I know I am going to receive hate for this but 2.0 actually makes sense compared to 1.10. if you have ever seen how decimal numbers work, 1.10 would be like saying 1.1. Why? Because the 0 on the end of the 1 just is adding another decimal place (100ths). It is not making a change, most people who know a thing or two about math might think it means 1.1. It's the same with version numbers. Most programs use 2.0 after 1.9. Minecraft is the first program I have ever seen that is going to use this, so it would make more sense just to use 2.0.
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1 is the game number.
10 is the version number.
Numbers after 10 are bug fixes (I.E. 1.8.9)
It doesn't follow the rules of decimals because it isn't a decimal. Numbers with decimals only have one - yet you were okay with 1.8.9? And now 1.10 is too much for you? Please.
Edit: You are also very wrong about programs using 2.0 after 1.9. 2.0 is a new program, with all new coding. Think about Microsoft Word 2010, Microsoft 2013. New programs updates TO them are versions and bug fixes.
I know I am going to receive hate for this but 2.0 actually makes sense compared to 1.10. if you have ever seen how decimal numbers work, 1.10 would be like saying 1.1. Why? Because the 0 on the end of the 1 just is adding another decimal place (100ths). It is not making a change, most people who know a thing or two about math might think it means 1.1. It's the same with version numbers. Most programs use 2.0 after 1.9. Minecraft is the first program I have ever seen that is going to use this, so it would make more sense just to use 2.0.
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Version order is different than numerical order. 1.x just means it's the same version of the game, but with different stuff. 2.x means it's a huge update that hugely impacted the game. Version number has nothing to do with mathematical decimals.
I know I am going to receive hate for this but 2.0 actually makes sense compared to 1.10. if you have ever seen how decimal numbers work, 1.10 would be like saying 1.1. Why? Because the 0 on the end of the 1 just is adding another decimal place (100ths). It is not making a change, most people who know a thing or two about math might think it means 1.1. It's the same with version numbers. Most programs use 2.0 after 1.9. Minecraft is the first program I have ever seen that is going to use this, so it would make more sense just to use 2.0.
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And you don't know how version numbers work. At the very least, read through some of the posts to see what I mean. -.-
Major.Minor.Patch is how it goes- major for a major version, minor for a minor version, and patch for the patch version.
Version numbers are arbitrary - they can be anything you want them to be. I personally dislike Minecraft's system, as the first number does not seem like it ever wants to change. But whatever - I don't think it should go 1.9.X -> 2.0 on the simple principle that 1.9 + 0.1 = 2.0, which does not even apply in this situation anyway.
Version numbers are arbitrary - they can be anything you want them to be. I personally dislike Minecraft's system, as the first number does not seem like it ever wants to change. But whatever - I don't think it should go 1.9.X -> 2.0 on the simple principle that 1.9 + 0.1 = 2.0, which does not even apply in this situation anyway.
True, they are as arbitrary as any other organizational method devised by mankind. But by that same logic you could say that we should have 7 unique numbers and instead of counting 0 through 9 we should instead count 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 20, etc. The actual amount of objects wouldn't change if you change how your counting system works, it is just an arbitrary system of interpretation.
But that is what makes an arbitrary system of measurement work, the fact that most people agree with and follow the established rules. English works because (in an ideal world) everyone follows the same rules. Same with Spanish or Russian or Japanese. Numbers work because as a global society we decided to have 10 base numbers. Same thing with version numbers, most of the people follow the same rules which is why it works at all.
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Dinnerbone himself has stated that version numbers do not work like decimals. They kinda work like this: major.minor.bugfix. Ex: 1.7.10 (1 is major, 7 minor, 10 bugfix) Changing the value of major to 2 is implying, as many above have pointed out, that there will be a large/total rewrite of the whole game. 1.10 will not be a complete rewrite. It's simply one of the routine updates Mojang puts out every year. Plus, who cares about good-looking/sounding version numbers? It's nowherenear as important as the game itself.
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I probably should have been writing that essay instead of writing the above.
True, they are as arbitrary as any other organizational method devised by mankind. But by that same logic you could say that we should have 7 unique numbers and instead of counting 0 through 9 we should instead count 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 20, etc. The actual amount of objects wouldn't change if you change how your counting system works, it is just an arbitrary system of interpretation.
But that is what makes an arbitrary system of measurement work, the fact that most people agree with and follow the established rules. English works because (in an ideal world) everyone follows the same rules. Same with Spanish or Russian or Japanese. Numbers work because as a global society we decided to have 10 base numbers. Same thing with version numbers, most of the people follow the same rules which is why it works at all.
Oh, you mean base 7? And really - we do not follow the same rules about versioning. I don't even think there is a standard. Unless the "rules" are "the next version has a higher number." Some places use the date as its version (So version 1.9 would be version 20160229, or something), some use odd numbers as development version (hence why there is no IPv5, instead going from 4 to 6)
Guys, we're just going in circles now and the OP isn't coming back to the thread despite the fact that's been online and had plenty of opportunity to come back here. It's possible this thread was just to wind people up. Really no need to keep bumping this.
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No Support, Because 2.0 is a huge overhaul. 1.10 is just an normal update that fixes bugs. OFF-TOPIC:I would prefer naming the updates like 1.1.0, 1.2.0, 1.3.0, 1.4.0, 1.5.0, 1.6.0, 1.7.0, 1.8.0, 1.9.0 and 1.10.0.
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Nope and nope.
I don't think I've ever seen any other user in the world go berzerk over a version number as much as you. "It's not even the same game anymore". Yes, yes it is. A ton of new stuff doesn't mean "diff3rent game!!"
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I know I am going to receive hate for this but 2.0 actually makes sense compared to 1.10. if you have ever seen how decimal numbers work, 1.10 would be like saying 1.1. Why? Because the 0 on the end of the 1 just is adding another decimal place (100ths). It is not making a change, most people who know a thing or two about math might think it means 1.1. It's the same with version numbers. Most programs use 2.0 after 1.9. Minecraft is the first program I have ever seen that is going to use this, so it would make more sense just to use 2.0.
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Dinnerbone has already said it would be 1.10. Also, I don't think the majority of players are children. Besides that, I think they are more concerned with the gameplay and not the version number.
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1 is the game number.
10 is the version number.
Numbers after 10 are bug fixes (I.E. 1.8.9)
It doesn't follow the rules of decimals because it isn't a decimal. Numbers with decimals only have one - yet you were okay with 1.8.9? And now 1.10 is too much for you? Please.
Edit: You are also very wrong about programs using 2.0 after 1.9. 2.0 is a new program, with all new coding. Think about Microsoft Word 2010, Microsoft 2013. New programs updates TO them are versions and bug fixes.
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Isn't that how all games do it? I mean, most games that I've seen don't say 2.0, they just say 1.10. That's just how games and updates work.
Please read these two threads:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2572194-please-read-this-before-making-a-suggestion-v2-0
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/44180-for-the-critics-ftc
Version order is different than numerical order. 1.x just means it's the same version of the game, but with different stuff. 2.x means it's a huge update that hugely impacted the game. Version number has nothing to do with mathematical decimals.
Please read these two threads:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2572194-please-read-this-before-making-a-suggestion-v2-0
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/44180-for-the-critics-ftc
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Curse PremiumAnd you don't know how version numbers work. At the very least, read through some of the posts to see what I mean. -.-
Major.Minor.Patch is how it goes- major for a major version, minor for a minor version, and patch for the patch version.
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Curse PremiumVersion numbers are arbitrary - they can be anything you want them to be. I personally dislike Minecraft's system, as the first number does not seem like it ever wants to change. But whatever - I don't think it should go 1.9.X -> 2.0 on the simple principle that 1.9 + 0.1 = 2.0, which does not even apply in this situation anyway.
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ModeratorTrue, they are as arbitrary as any other organizational method devised by mankind. But by that same logic you could say that we should have 7 unique numbers and instead of counting 0 through 9 we should instead count 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 20, etc. The actual amount of objects wouldn't change if you change how your counting system works, it is just an arbitrary system of interpretation.
But that is what makes an arbitrary system of measurement work, the fact that most people agree with and follow the established rules. English works because (in an ideal world) everyone follows the same rules. Same with Spanish or Russian or Japanese. Numbers work because as a global society we decided to have 10 base numbers. Same thing with version numbers, most of the people follow the same rules which is why it works at all.
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Dinnerbone himself has stated that version numbers do not work like decimals. They kinda work like this: major.minor.bugfix. Ex: 1.7.10 (1 is major, 7 minor, 10 bugfix) Changing the value of major to 2 is implying, as many above have pointed out, that there will be a large/total rewrite of the whole game. 1.10 will not be a complete rewrite. It's simply one of the routine updates Mojang puts out every year. Plus, who cares about good-looking/sounding version numbers? It's nowhere near as important as the game itself.
I probably should have been writing that essay instead of writing the above.
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Curse PremiumOh, you mean base 7? And really - we do not follow the same rules about versioning. I don't even think there is a standard. Unless the "rules" are "the next version has a higher number." Some places use the date as its version (So version 1.9 would be version 20160229, or something), some use odd numbers as development version (hence why there is no IPv5, instead going from 4 to 6)
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You say you know how versions work, but you clearly don't. Calling 1.10 2.0 would be mislabeling and a lie.
Guys, we're just going in circles now and the OP isn't coming back to the thread despite the fact that's been online and had plenty of opportunity to come back here. It's possible this thread was just to wind people up. Really no need to keep bumping this.
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I can see how the name "Minecraft 2.0" might generate more excitement, and I think that's important because people need to stay with Minecraft and come back to Minecraft to maintain its popularity. But it seems like most people, on this thread at least, don't mind the name 1.10 at all! Oh well!
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