I don't think I used the term incorrectly, but I will admit he put way more effort into this kind of idea than most. The concept is the same though, as you have the ability to make an entire tree fall down.
Then in this case, it's a redundant idea. Try unoriginal idea? Then again, it's wrong to put it down even if it was suggested before since there is a chance that it can be presented in a different way. Actually they should have gone to the original post and shared their own opinion. I just want folks to elaborate a little more than just 'it's redundant', 'vague', or unappealing in any way.
Then in this case, it's a redundant idea. Try unoriginal idea?
I think the two are almost the same in the case of this forum... If something is redundant, it's not original.
Then again, it's wrong to put it down even if it was suggested before since there is a chance that it can be presented in a different way. Actually they should have gone to the original post and shared their own opinion. I just want folks to elaborate a little more than just 'it's redundant', 'vague', or unappealing in any way.
An idea being presented differently doesn't automatically change the core of the suggestion. It's not a blatant uncreative "lol chop 1 wood blok down and da whole tree comes down!!!" but it's still the idea of bringing a tree down by chopping a wooden log.
Yes, the idea has a chance of having that happen rather it always happening, but it still makes a stupid-easy task even easier. If Minecraft wasn't overwhelmed with trees, I might support.
How rare is this enchantment? It needs to be something AT LEAST uncommon, because it would be pretty OP otherwise.
Also, will it work like the mod, where all of the log durability that would have been spent on the logs individually is eaten up, or will it only use one? Also, will it destroy all the leaves, or leave them there?
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Support! This would be a great idea in Minecraft, as in my server this would be useful. Sometimes you're mining and you run out of wood, it's basically like you're doomed if your tools break. Adding this enchantment to your axe would make it really useful to just go and mine a whole jungle tree in less than a minute.
How rare is this enchantment? It needs to be something AT LEAST uncommon, because it would be pretty OP otherwise.
Also, will it work like the mod, where all of the log durability that would have been spent on the logs individually is eaten up, or will it only use one? Also, will it destroy all the leaves, or leave them there?
All your questions are already answered in the NOTES section:
- Available at level 20 on the Enchantment table or with chest loots. (But considered as a rare enchantment)
- Durability of the item lowered by the number of blocks cutted
- Doesn't cut Leaves blocks.
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People like you seem to use the word redundant incorrectly. This would be a redundant suggestion if the post were to say, 'There should be an enchantment that allows players to gather multiple wood blocks because we need a way to collect a lot of wood fast. Did i mention the fact that this enchantment helps you cut down trees faster and with only one swing?' But you're right in the fact that wood is so easy to get, especially with efficiency V.
That's right, wood is easy to get. But let me put this the same way as you do: Arrow is easy to get as you need to build a Skeleton farm/Mob farm. (Which can be done easy.) Infinity enchantment is useless if you apply the same logic.
Efficiency V is a fast way to take down logs, but you will need to climb that tree. There i'm thinking about Jungle trees, Mega Taiga trees, Dark Forest trees, etc. that are harder or need to be climbed to cut it down entirely.
The goal here is to save the climbing time and find a way to stop the floating tree problem.
The idea seems perfectly reasonable as it is and is fairly well thought out as well. It's definitely not OP for the time necessary to take down trees and the durability is consumed as well, along with being an enchantment making it even harder to get in the first place. It's barely even redundant beyond being about chopping trees down by destroying one log, and is obviously more fleshed out than other one or two sentence long posts, this idea has my support.
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It's different from the usual "If the bottom block is chopped then the entire tree falls down" suggestion in that it takes the same amount of time and durability that it would take to chop the entire tree, and it takes from as an enchantment.
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I just got another idea: By cutting the log, all other wood log above get a "gravity change".
Just like the Gravel or Sand block, logs above the one cutted fall down until they hit something and break as item.
This would only happen to trees, this "gravity change" wouldn't happen to a manually placed log.
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Then in this case, it's a redundant idea. Try unoriginal idea? Then again, it's wrong to put it down even if it was suggested before since there is a chance that it can be presented in a different way. Actually they should have gone to the original post and shared their own opinion. I just want folks to elaborate a little more than just 'it's redundant', 'vague', or unappealing in any way.
No, I read and understood it. It's redunatnt
I think the two are almost the same in the case of this forum... If something is redundant, it's not original.
An idea being presented differently doesn't automatically change the core of the suggestion. It's not a blatant uncreative "lol chop 1 wood blok down and da whole tree comes down!!!" but it's still the idea of bringing a tree down by chopping a wooden log.
Yes, the idea has a chance of having that happen rather it always happening, but it still makes a stupid-easy task even easier. If Minecraft wasn't overwhelmed with trees, I might support.
I didn't know how this will be like, useful or too much, or something?
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Also, will it work like the mod, where all of the log durability that would have been spent on the logs individually is eaten up, or will it only use one? Also, will it destroy all the leaves, or leave them there?
I Support!
But did you even read the whole post? He mentioned he was inspired by the mod and he wants an enchantment.
All your questions are already answered in the NOTES section:
- Available at level 20 on the Enchantment table or with chest loots. (But considered as a rare enchantment)
- Durability of the item lowered by the number of blocks cutted
- Doesn't cut Leaves blocks.
That's right, wood is easy to get. But let me put this the same way as you do: Arrow is easy to get as you need to build a Skeleton farm/Mob farm. (Which can be done easy.) Infinity enchantment is useless if you apply the same logic.
Efficiency V is a fast way to take down logs, but you will need to climb that tree. There i'm thinking about Jungle trees, Mega Taiga trees, Dark Forest trees, etc. that are harder or need to be climbed to cut it down entirely.
The goal here is to save the climbing time and find a way to stop the floating tree problem.
It's different from the usual "If the bottom block is chopped then the entire tree falls down" suggestion in that it takes the same amount of time and durability that it would take to chop the entire tree, and it takes from as an enchantment.
I really like the timber mod, and I think that it would be balanced as an enchantment that is really rare.
Just like the Gravel or Sand block, logs above the one cutted fall down until they hit something and break as item.
This would only happen to trees, this "gravity change" wouldn't happen to a manually placed log.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2162052-tree-chopping-axe-enchant
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