While I was testing out the last two snapshots I noticed that all the swamps I found were entirely underwater. This picture I took was actually from before I got the snapshots, so this is actually a problem that happened in 1.2.5 and in 12w24a.
What do you mean underwater? Were the trees underwater?
All of the land generated underwater, and because all the land is underwater no trees could grow. So instead of a swamp, its just darker water with a few lilypads.
I have to agree that the swamps don't have enough trees. But I'd also like to see them generate ground vegetation similar to how jungles do, and the addition of a block similar to soul sand would be nifty.
Also, trees can generate in shallow water in the swamp biomes, they don't need dry land. Or at least they used to, I honestly haven't been through any recently to check.
I have to agree that the swamps don't have enough trees. But I'd also like to see them generate ground vegetation similar to how jungles do, and the addition of a block similar to soul sand would be nifty.
Also, trees can generate in shallow water in the swamp biomes, they don't need dry land. Or at least they used to, I honestly haven't been through any recently to check.
Some mangrove trees would be a pretty neat addition to swamps. Also really like the soulsand-ish idea. Trying to move through a swamp on foot is not a great idea, would be cool if the game reflected that.
I think this is normal, actually. Most of my swamps (from anywhere between 1.0.0 and 1.2.5) have massive open-water areas like that. I've never seen one with no land at all before though. There's no swampland above the top edge of the pic?
I think this is normal, actually. Most of my swamps (from anywhere between 1.0.0 and 1.2.5) have massive open-water areas like that. I've never seen one with no land at all before though. There's no swampland above the top edge of the pic?
Not nearly enough. I think swamps should be as dense as jungles...complete with ground-level bushes all over the place, hanging over the water.
Swamps should also not have tiny river biome blobs spotted all over the place.
I honestly see no problem with this. Heck, it's nice just to find something uncommon like that.
(Sarcasm on )
I agree, the only thing the game needs with this is the ability to be able to change this by building it to your liking. Build a small island or plant trees, make a village and see if the villagers drown like rats.
(Sarcasm off)
Swamps should also not have tiny river biome blobs spotted all over the place.
Yeah, that was a pretty dumb way for them to add lakes to swamps. Lakes already generate on the surface...just make them much more common in swamps. Then it won't mess with the biome colors.
Speaking of the biome colors, we need more blending!! The pic in the OP looks like an oil spill, not a swamp.
If you take away the lillypads and implemented sponge and coral blocks, it could be a reef biome. Which might give use to the ocean biome, if sponges and coral did something.
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Yeah, that was a pretty dumb way for them to add lakes to swamps. Lakes already generate on the surface...just make them much more common in swamps. Then it won't mess with the biome colors.
Speaking of the biome colors, we need more blending!! The pic in the OP looks like an oil spill, not a swamp.
Every swamp I've ever been in IRL has plenty of small rivers and lakes.
Every swamp I've ever been in IRL has plenty of small rivers and lakes.
You missed my point.
I was saying they should've increased the frequency of generated lakes in swamps, since those don't change biome color, rather than using blobs of river-biome to make lakes, which do change the biome color. That way there aren't blobs of bright grass and bright water in the swamps.
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Swamps should also not have tiny river biome blobs spotted all over the place.
Another person who has never been in a real swamp. Where do you live, exactly? Norway? Iceland? Korea?
Come to Florida in the USA and I'll show you the swamp 3 streets from my house, along with the thermal springs so clean and clear you can float face-down and drink it. Until you swallow a fish, that is.
Yeah, that was a pretty dumb way for them to add lakes to swamps. Lakes already generate on the surface...just make them much more common in swamps. Then it won't mess with the biome colors.
Speaking of the biome colors, we need more blending!! The pic in the OP looks like an oil spill, not a swamp.
Again, you've probably never seen when a muddy body of swamp water meets clear fresh or ocean water. The result is a rather definite line between the muddy and clear water.
Again, you've probably never seen when a muddy body of swamp water meets clear fresh or ocean water. The result is a rather definite line between the muddy and clear water.
It is a pic taken from the ISS of the muddy, swampy water of the Amazon river flowing into the ocean. Do you see blending? I do not.
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You don't see blending from the ISS, because you're looking at the earth from 250 miles above the surface. If you were looking down at a Minecraftian swamp from there, the "blending zone" between dark and light water could be 1000 blocks thick, and the border would still look razor sharp from 250 miles up.
Up close and personal in a real swamp, dirty water does mix with clean water, usually over great distances.
Some mangrove trees would be a pretty neat addition to swamps. Also really like the soulsand-ish idea. Trying to move through a swamp on foot is not a great idea, would be cool if the game reflected that.
I was also thinking maybe some alligators. Or at the very least, some Rodents of Unusual Size.
I love being proven wrong...it's the best way to learn new things.
But I don't believe I was proven wrong this time...
You don't see blending from the ISS, because you're looking at the earth from 250 miles above the surface. If you were looking down at a Minecraftian swamp from there, the "blending zone" between dark and light water could be 1000 blocks thick, and the border would still look razor sharp from 250 miles up.
Up close and personal in a real swamp, dirty water does mix with clean water, usually over great distances.
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I can sit in the Jensen Beach inlet (as I often do) in a boat, 2 feet from the water's surface and see a rather clear line between where the Indian River's murky brown water hits the clear water of the Atlantic Ocean. On a rough day the line blurs a bit, but never m,ore than 4 meters or so before you can tell exactly what side of the line you are on.
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All of the land generated underwater, and because all the land is underwater no trees could grow. So instead of a swamp, its just darker water with a few lilypads.
True. That's why I posted this into the discussion section instead of the bug report section
edit: I hate swamp biomes, though. Unless they're generated with the Big Trees mods. Then they're awesome.
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Also, trees can generate in shallow water in the swamp biomes, they don't need dry land. Or at least they used to, I honestly haven't been through any recently to check.
Some mangrove trees would be a pretty neat addition to swamps. Also really like the soulsand-ish idea. Trying to move through a swamp on foot is not a great idea, would be cool if the game reflected that.
Not nearly enough. I think swamps should be as dense as jungles...complete with ground-level bushes all over the place, hanging over the water.
Swamps should also not have tiny river biome blobs spotted all over the place.
Praise be to Spode.
(Sarcasm on )
I agree, the only thing the game needs with this is the ability to be able to change this by building it to your liking. Build a small island or plant trees, make a village and see if the villagers drown like rats.
(Sarcasm off)
Yeah, that was a pretty dumb way for them to add lakes to swamps. Lakes already generate on the surface...just make them much more common in swamps. Then it won't mess with the biome colors.
Speaking of the biome colors, we need more blending!! The pic in the OP looks like an oil spill, not a swamp.
Sorry for random post...
Star Trek DS9 and Doctor Who FTW.
Every swamp I've ever been in IRL has plenty of small rivers and lakes.
You missed my point.
I was saying they should've increased the frequency of generated lakes in swamps, since those don't change biome color, rather than using blobs of river-biome to make lakes, which do change the biome color. That way there aren't blobs of bright grass and bright water in the swamps.
Another person who has never been in a real swamp. Where do you live, exactly? Norway? Iceland? Korea?
Come to Florida in the USA and I'll show you the swamp 3 streets from my house, along with the thermal springs so clean and clear you can float face-down and drink it. Until you swallow a fish, that is.
Again, you've probably never seen when a muddy body of swamp water meets clear fresh or ocean water. The result is a rather definite line between the muddy and clear water.
If you are brave enough to be proven wrong, check out this link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/europeanspaceagency/7412952026/
It is a pic taken from the ISS of the muddy, swampy water of the Amazon river flowing into the ocean. Do you see blending? I do not.
I love being proven wrong...it's the best way to learn new things.
But I don't believe I was proven wrong this time...
You don't see blending from the ISS, because you're looking at the earth from 250 miles above the surface. If you were looking down at a Minecraftian swamp from there, the "blending zone" between dark and light water could be 1000 blocks thick, and the border would still look razor sharp from 250 miles up.
Up close and personal in a real swamp, dirty water does mix with clean water, usually over great distances.
I was also thinking maybe some alligators. Or at the very least, some Rodents of Unusual Size.
(-___- #)
I can sit in the Jensen Beach inlet (as I often do) in a boat, 2 feet from the water's surface and see a rather clear line between where the Indian River's murky brown water hits the clear water of the Atlantic Ocean. On a rough day the line blurs a bit, but never m,ore than 4 meters or so before you can tell exactly what side of the line you are on.