I learned how much of a fat, greedy liar he was the day he posted "I never once advertised on /v/" and then it seemed like the entire internet came out providing links FROM HIS TWITTER to his posts on /v/ advertising. And people STILL defend the guy.
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It snowballed because he advertised nonstop on 4chan.
4chan, you say?
That speaks volumes about...... well, everything. It all makes sense now.
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Stop hating on Notch... Maybe he was a little lazy and cancelled some stuff but without him Minecraft wouldnt really exist... This forum wouldnt exist... Also try to make a game yourself (And dont try to lie and say that it would be easy and you would do better)
Keep drinking the koolaid. Also, the make your own game argument is only used by people who make terrible arguments and can't actually combat with real reasons.
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I just want to go on record and say that technically, unless Notch said, "hey guys I promise [said feature here] is going to be implemented," then he did not promise anything. The game was in development and we were Notch's only testers so of course if he thinks of an idea we were bound to hear it. If you took it as a promise then that technically is crapolla and your problem. Also I don't see how anyone can reference someones character because they were busy building a business rather than building on an already kick-a$$ game.
I learned how much of a fat, greedy liar he was the day he posted "I never once advertised on /v/" and then it seemed like the entire internet came out providing links FROM HIS TWITTER to his posts on /v/ advertising. And people STILL defend the guy.
So funny haha. I never even saw what you're talking about but it's such an obvious and easy viral tactic that I was sure he was doing it without even looking into it too much
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"When we release a pure bugfix update, people get VERY upset ("NOTHING CHANGED!").. Adding features gives us much happier users. But I do realize that it's only happier users in the short term." - Notch
After having built a level in Creative or Survival mode, you and your friends connect to another fortress made by some other people. The map gets bigger so it fits both maps, and you play a game on this map. Perhaps Capture the Flag, perhaps something else.
The good news is that people are FINALLY starting to recognize that Jens has been the only one actually working since he was hired back in 2010. Thankfully, he isn't a *insert insult here* like Notch was and actually works.
Notch wasn't lazy, he worked on the game from when it began to the release - which is what most normal game developers do.
I learned how much of a fat, greedy liar he was the day he...
Woah, calm down there hater.
I'm no Notch fanboy or anything. I'm a little disappointed too, that some features he promised still haven't come through, and might never, and I fully support Jeb and the rest working on the game now, but there's no need for hate.
He obviously isn't greedy because we hear about him donating and funding things all the time, for example the 3 million he gave to his employees earlier in the year. And his body mass doesn't have anything to do with anything, bringing that up is uncalled for.
Also, calling him a liar is, I think, incorrect. Notch is a very 'noisy' developer. He likes to voice his ideas and bounce them off other people, considering things and then maybe discarding the idea. Capture the Flag is one of these ideas. Perhaps once, when the themes and gameplay of Minecraft was still in flux, this and other ideas may have been viable. As development progresses however ideas are discarded as they wouldn't fit. Just because he doesn't tell us about the ideas he has discarded, doesn't mean he is a liar.
Also, the reason people are defending Notch is not because they are stupid or ignorant or ignore things they don't want to hear, it's because they understand that not everyone is perfect and people can change their mind, and they want to fight against the hate of the people that don't understand this. Like what I'm trying to do now.
Even if Notch suddenly where to return and fulfill all promises, DaBiggman will be able to find grounds for hate. That is who he is. It's hopefully an act he perform here at the forum, but he's so good at it that I've given up trying to find reason.
It's ridiculous how people think they're entitled to certain things with this game. You bought it in its as-is state at the time you purchased it. Everything else is extra. Feel happy you're getting a ton of additional content for FREE. If I remember correctly, the payment plan he laid out in Alpha left the door open for him to charge for any additional content to anyone who didn't purchase the game in Alpha.
Jens actually listens to the community and has continued to work on the game.
Notch collected his money and quit.
Except Notch did the same things Jeb is doing now, the difference is: you choose to ride jeb's jock every chance you get when: 1) neither jeb nor notch are spectacular super-coders 2) neither one work any faster/harder on ideas (not promises) than the other 3) both have hired more proficient coders when the workload and expectations were too demanding. But I'm sure you'll ignore these facts and point out something like "BUT FISH WEREN'T ADDED" or something equally retarded and unrelated.
Jens actually listens to the community and has continued to work on the game.
Notch collected his money and quit.
He didn't quit, he moved on to other games. He still works on Minecraft, he's just not head developer for it anymore. I agree, Jeb listens to the community more, but you make it sound like Notch just completely abandoned his hit game.
He didn't quit, he moved on to other games. He still works on Minecraft, he's just not head developer for it anymore. I agree, Jeb listens to the community more, but you make it sound like Notch just completely abandoned his hit game.
It's annoying how people assume that Notch just left the game because of money and laziness. He has added more stuff to his own game than Jeb has, but people still worship Jeb thinking Notch is an idiot. Notch is a good developer, why can't people realize it? Jeb DOES listen to the community however it was still up to Notch to create his fantasy, his game. Imagine if Minecraft was just released on that one November day without beta testing?
It's annoying how people assume that Notch just left the game because of money and laziness. He has added more stuff to his own game than Jeb has, but people still worship Jeb thinking Notch is an idiot. Notch is a good developer, why can't people realize it? Jeb DOES listen to the community however it was still up to Notch to create his fantasy, his game. Imagine if Minecraft was just released on that one November day without beta testing?
Maybe I ramble too much. That's a good thing !
The original poster of that, DaBiggman, made a "nice" flamebait.
It snowballed because he advertised nonstop on 4chan.
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That explains a LOT.
I learned how much of a fat, greedy liar he was the day he posted "I never once advertised on /v/" and then it seemed like the entire internet came out providing links FROM HIS TWITTER to his posts on /v/ advertising. And people STILL defend the guy.
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DaBiggman, you now have my favorite avatar on these forums
4chan, you say?
That speaks volumes about...... well, everything. It all makes sense now.
Keep drinking the koolaid. Also, the make your own game argument is only used by people who make terrible arguments and can't actually combat with real reasons.
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I now want Scarecrows and Bails of Hay
So funny haha. I never even saw what you're talking about but it's such an obvious and easy viral tactic that I was sure he was doing it without even looking into it too much
"When we release a pure bugfix update, people get VERY upset ("NOTHING CHANGED!").. Adding features gives us much happier users. But I do realize that it's only happier users in the short term." - Notch
Notch NEVER promised CTF. http://notch.tumblr.com/post/108596899/some-thoughts-on-game-modes That's the blog post where he talks about CTF. The TITLE of the blog post is "Some thoughts on game modes", so it was never confirmed.
^Even more proof he never promised it.
Notch wasn't lazy, he worked on the game from when it began to the release - which is what most normal game developers do.
huh, sometimes I forget about that place, some of my very early internet youth spent there, what a crazy place it is.
Woah, calm down there hater.
I'm no Notch fanboy or anything. I'm a little disappointed too, that some features he promised still haven't come through, and might never, and I fully support Jeb and the rest working on the game now, but there's no need for hate.
He obviously isn't greedy because we hear about him donating and funding things all the time, for example the 3 million he gave to his employees earlier in the year. And his body mass doesn't have anything to do with anything, bringing that up is uncalled for.
Also, calling him a liar is, I think, incorrect. Notch is a very 'noisy' developer. He likes to voice his ideas and bounce them off other people, considering things and then maybe discarding the idea. Capture the Flag is one of these ideas. Perhaps once, when the themes and gameplay of Minecraft was still in flux, this and other ideas may have been viable. As development progresses however ideas are discarded as they wouldn't fit. Just because he doesn't tell us about the ideas he has discarded, doesn't mean he is a liar.
Also, the reason people are defending Notch is not because they are stupid or ignorant or ignore things they don't want to hear, it's because they understand that not everyone is perfect and people can change their mind, and they want to fight against the hate of the people that don't understand this. Like what I'm trying to do now.
Except Notch did the same things Jeb is doing now, the difference is: you choose to ride jeb's jock every chance you get when: 1) neither jeb nor notch are spectacular super-coders 2) neither one work any faster/harder on ideas (not promises) than the other 3) both have hired more proficient coders when the workload and expectations were too demanding. But I'm sure you'll ignore these facts and point out something like "BUT FISH WEREN'T ADDED" or something equally retarded and unrelated.
This will be referenced long into the future.
He didn't quit, he moved on to other games. He still works on Minecraft, he's just not head developer for it anymore. I agree, Jeb listens to the community more, but you make it sound like Notch just completely abandoned his hit game.
What's up? I'm the proud co-owner of a little ClassiCube server called Minebuild.
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Sometimes, you just need a little more cave.
It's annoying how people assume that Notch just left the game because of money and laziness. He has added more stuff to his own game than Jeb has, but people still worship Jeb thinking Notch is an idiot. Notch is a good developer, why can't people realize it? Jeb DOES listen to the community however it was still up to Notch to create his fantasy, his game. Imagine if Minecraft was just released on that one November day without beta testing?
Maybe I ramble too much. That's a good thing :D!
The original poster of that, DaBiggman, made a "nice" flamebait.
What's up? I'm the proud co-owner of a little ClassiCube server called Minebuild.
Click here to go to the thread for it!
Sometimes, you just need a little more cave.