They are ridiculously expensive. But eventually worth it. You will find a bad situation one day, and you would want to use it (eg: enderdragon battle/withe battle/nether expedition). They should nerf the cost of it... but not remove the recipe all together.
Why do I say this? Because it is a key advantage in many important battles, and I don't want to count on luck in order to have a stash, and I want to count on my effort to gather enough for a stash to use.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
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Resistance isn't available. Also, a quick mix of regen and resistance isn't possible either.
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Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
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> If you make a banner that doesn't link back to your thread, I'll hate you a little.
> Stop suggesting: lighted torch holding, retarded bosses, new dimensions, thirst, natural disasters.
> If you don't support a gun thread because it is "OP" and "unfitting" when it clearly isn't, (eg that musket thread), I will hunt you, and I will absorb your life essence.
I'm sure I can build a beacon in the end with the enderdragon still there. Oh, when I fight the wither for the first time, I'll have a beacon ready as well! The effects may be available, but they aren't portable. Beacons are more of a "home turf" kind of thing.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
OP: Multicoloured wood stuff!!!! More wood kinds! Community: Would love this! Support! Me: STOP IT. STOP NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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> If you make a banner that doesn't link back to your thread, I'll hate you a little.
> Stop suggesting: lighted torch holding, retarded bosses, new dimensions, thirst, natural disasters.
> If you don't support a gun thread because it is "OP" and "unfitting" when it clearly isn't, (eg that musket thread), I will hunt you, and I will absorb your life essence.
They are ridiculously expensive. But eventually worth it. You will find a bad situation one day, and you would want to use it (eg: enderdragon battle/withe battle/nether expedition). They should nerf the cost of it... but not remove the recipe all together.
Why do I say this? Because it is a key advantage in many important battles, and I don't want to count on luck in order to have a stash, and I want to count on my effort to gather enough for a stash to use.
It's really not a "key advantage" in PvE, just FYI. It is only a "key advantage" in PvP. As I've previously mentioned, the sole use for notch apples is in PvP application.
People who speedrun the game right now fight the ender dragon using beds with no armor... In 1.9 Mojang expects you to just waltz up to the dragon with a stack of empty bottles and fill them with his poisonous breath... I'd hardly say you need any "advantages" in that fight rofl.
The wither is a similar case. I take 2-3 hearts of damage on average while fighting the wither. This is with no potion or beacon effects, just armor.
Those are the hardest PvE fights in the game...
They also weren't that expensive, if you made a farm in the nether. Which according to the OP of this thread...
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Most people made gold farms in the nether. None of the changes make sense, they nerf everything thats fun about Minecraft then watch as people either get enraged or don't care and accept the coming fate.
Nerfing the cost would do literally nothing to keep people from creating an unlimited supply of notch apples. Broccoli_Monkey was only half correct, the apples are not underpowered. With the simple time investment of making a gold farm on top of the nether, you have a literally limitless supply of gold. You won't be spending "hours mining 72 ingots", you can just afk for a week and have a double chest of them while doing essentially nothing. This also makes you much more likely to use them, with a limitless supply that took little upfront investment. The same can somewhat be said of overworld farms or those not on top of the nether, but both of those can take significantly more time investment to create(with far lower efficiency), so players are much less likely to make them.
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It's really not a "key advantage" in PvE, just FYI. It is only a "key advantage" in PvP. As I've previously mentioned, the sole use for notch apples is in PvP application.
People who speedrun the game right now fight the ender dragon using beds with no armor... In 1.9 Mojang expects you to just waltz up to the dragon with a stack of empty bottles and fill them with his poisonous breath... I'd hardly say you need any "advantages" in that fight rofl.
The wither is a similar case. I take 2-3 hearts of damage on average while fighting the wither. This is with no potion or beacon effects, just armor.
Those are the hardest PvE fights in the game...
They also weren't that expensive, if you made a farm in the nether. Which according to the OP of this thread...
My my, so if a few can kill the dragon with beds, if YOU can kill the wither losing only 2-3 hearts of damage, everyone MUST have the same skill! It can be a key advantage in these boss fights. Especially the wither.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
OP: Multicoloured wood stuff!!!! More wood kinds! Community: Would love this! Support! Me: STOP IT. STOP NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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> If you make a banner that doesn't link back to your thread, I'll hate you a little.
> Stop suggesting: lighted torch holding, retarded bosses, new dimensions, thirst, natural disasters.
> If you don't support a gun thread because it is "OP" and "unfitting" when it clearly isn't, (eg that musket thread), I will hunt you, and I will absorb your life essence.
My my, so if a few can kill the dragon with beds, if YOU can kill the wither losing only 2-3 hearts of damage, everyone MUST have the same skill! It can be a key advantage in these boss fights. Especially the wither.
It's more than just a few, but I'll go with IndiePhunq...
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Chill, bro. You can still nom on crapples.
Gapples aren't removed. Just slightly harder to nom on.
I didn't say that everyone must have the same skill. It just means that maybe you should improve yours if you're having that much trouble...
You can still use a wide assortment of other buffs and items to fight the bosses. If you still can't beat them, maybe you should practice more until you can. Or maybe wear something better than leather armor? I dunno.
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This is arguably a good thing, considering they reduce the relevance of skill in combat (which 1.9 is trying to remedy).
Think about it: the entire purpose of a god apple is to be extremely expensive (irrelevant with a gold farm) and extremely powerful. Powerful enough to kill someone solely because of that god apple, even if skill should have dictated the death of the apple-user. At least now, they're more valuable due to being finite and much rarer, meaning you'll encounter them a lot less, especially as time goes on. Eventually a server will run out completely if they have a worldborder. Definitely a good thing.
A much better idea would be their complete removal, but given the nuclear explosion that occurred when an insignificant item like the rose was removed... well, this is probably the most well-balanced thing we'll get.
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This is arguably a good thing, considering they reduce the relevance of skill in combat (which 1.9 is trying to remedy).
Think about it: the entire purpose of a god apple is to be extremely expensive (irrelevant with a gold farm) and extremely powerful. Powerful enough to kill someone solely because of that god apple, even if skill should have dictated the death of the apple-user.
A much better idea would be their complete removal, but given the nuclear explosion that occurred when an insignificant item like the rose was removed... well, this is probably the most well-balanced thing we'll get.
Ditto and kudos!
Where did the terms "Gapples" and "Crapples" even come from?
Notch apples stink. I'm playing survival, mining my own business when some idiot with 20 Notch apples and fully enchanted diamond armor (Where did that come from?!) comes and spam-clicks me to death. Why did they even need to exist? Minecraft PVP was already unbalanced enough.
I love 1.9. It's the only update I have been excited about for a long time.
PVP - They actually removed spam clicking. While the new system needs some balancing, it is a decent system.
Map making - What did they do? Oh, wait, they added new features.
Exploration - Added more stuff.
Mobs - Added a new creative mob.
Notch Apples - Considering hopw gold farms give off nuggets, it would take 648 nuggets to craft a Notch Apple. In half the time of making a gold farm, you could probably find one or two notch apples. 648 nuggets is over ten stacks.
But before this escalates, let us stop arguing before it gets too off topic.
This is arguably a good thing, considering they reduce the relevance of skill in combat (which 1.9 is trying to remedy).
Think about it: the entire purpose of a god apple is to be extremely expensive (irrelevant with a gold farm) and extremely powerful. Powerful enough to kill someone solely because of that god apple, even if skill should have dictated the death of the apple-user. At least now, they're more valuable due to being finite and much rarer, meaning you'll encounter them a lot less, especially as time goes on. Eventually a server will run out completely if they have a worldborder. Definitely a good thing.
A much better idea would be their complete removal, but given the nuclear explosion that occurred when an insignificant item like the rose was removed... well, this is probably the most well-balanced thing we'll get.
Wait, people got mad because the Rose was removed? But your quote made me realize, this is going to break a lot of servers, notably Factions. And I mean BREAK. Powerful Factions are either going to
A. Be raided constantly for Apples
B. Be avoided because of their Apples
C. Go on a rampage with their Apples, then be screwed over shortly after
D. Sell their Apples for millions
So high ranking factions are going to be screwed or become insanely powerful. I wonder how long PvP focused servers will survive.
Edit: Oopsie, forgot to factor plugins in while making this statement.
Wait, people got mad because the Rose was removed? But your quote made me realize, this is going to break a lot of servers, notably Factions. And I mean BREAK. Powerful Factions are either going to
A. Be raided constantly for Apples
B. Be avoided because of their Apples
C. Go on a rampage with their Apples, then be screwed over shortly after
D. Sell their Apples for millions
So high ranking factions are going to be screwed or become insanely powerful. I wonder how long PvP focused servers will survive.
Unless people care to counter my point made above, I'm in agreement here. (No offense to OP, we just ran out of things to discuss)
YES! And after servers reset, gold will be absolutely useless and all the good old fun of PvPing with super gapples will be dead.
This won't even just break a lot of faction servers, this will break the factions gamemode in general.
And yes, noobs cared about what flowers are in minecraft.
They are ridiculously expensive. But eventually worth it. You will find a bad situation one day, and you would want to use it (eg: enderdragon battle/withe battle/nether expedition). They should nerf the cost of it... but not remove the recipe all together.
Why do I say this? Because it is a key advantage in many important battles, and I don't want to count on luck in order to have a stash, and I want to count on my effort to gather enough for a stash to use.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
Community: Would love this! Support!
Me: STOP IT. STOP NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Me: Posts*
Community: Hey look! A thread with no comments! Lets leave it empty and let it die without even giving any thoughts!
2 days later:
Me: What the... where's the thread.... oh page 10
Other notes:
> If you make a banner that doesn't link back to your thread, I'll hate you a little.
> Stop suggesting: lighted torch holding, retarded bosses, new dimensions, thirst, natural disasters.
> If you don't support a gun thread because it is "OP" and "unfitting" when it clearly isn't, (eg that musket thread), I will hunt you, and I will absorb your life essence.
You still can craft normal golden apples
Resistance isn't available. Also, a quick mix of regen and resistance isn't possible either.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
Community: Would love this! Support!
Me: STOP IT. STOP NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Me: Posts*
Community: Hey look! A thread with no comments! Lets leave it empty and let it die without even giving any thoughts!
2 days later:
Me: What the... where's the thread.... oh page 10
Other notes:
> If you make a banner that doesn't link back to your thread, I'll hate you a little.
> Stop suggesting: lighted torch holding, retarded bosses, new dimensions, thirst, natural disasters.
> If you don't support a gun thread because it is "OP" and "unfitting" when it clearly isn't, (eg that musket thread), I will hunt you, and I will absorb your life essence.
Actually it is: beacon. Simple as that.
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I'm sure I can build a beacon in the end with the enderdragon still there. Oh, when I fight the wither for the first time, I'll have a beacon ready as well! The effects may be available, but they aren't portable. Beacons are more of a "home turf" kind of thing.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
Community: Would love this! Support!
Me: STOP IT. STOP NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Me: Posts*
Community: Hey look! A thread with no comments! Lets leave it empty and let it die without even giving any thoughts!
2 days later:
Me: What the... where's the thread.... oh page 10
Other notes:
> If you make a banner that doesn't link back to your thread, I'll hate you a little.
> Stop suggesting: lighted torch holding, retarded bosses, new dimensions, thirst, natural disasters.
> If you don't support a gun thread because it is "OP" and "unfitting" when it clearly isn't, (eg that musket thread), I will hunt you, and I will absorb your life essence.
Theyre not removed, just uncraftable
It's really not a "key advantage" in PvE, just FYI. It is only a "key advantage" in PvP. As I've previously mentioned, the sole use for notch apples is in PvP application.
People who speedrun the game right now fight the ender dragon using beds with no armor... In 1.9 Mojang expects you to just waltz up to the dragon with a stack of empty bottles and fill them with his poisonous breath... I'd hardly say you need any "advantages" in that fight rofl.
The wither is a similar case. I take 2-3 hearts of damage on average while fighting the wither. This is with no potion or beacon effects, just armor.
Those are the hardest PvE fights in the game...
They also weren't that expensive, if you made a farm in the nether. Which according to the OP of this thread...
Nerfing the cost would do literally nothing to keep people from creating an unlimited supply of notch apples. Broccoli_Monkey was only half correct, the apples are not underpowered. With the simple time investment of making a gold farm on top of the nether, you have a literally limitless supply of gold. You won't be spending "hours mining 72 ingots", you can just afk for a week and have a double chest of them while doing essentially nothing. This also makes you much more likely to use them, with a limitless supply that took little upfront investment. The same can somewhat be said of overworld farms or those not on top of the nether, but both of those can take significantly more time investment to create(with far lower efficiency), so players are much less likely to make them.
The BEST way to mine diamond, layer 12 and you.
My my, so if a few can kill the dragon with beds, if YOU can kill the wither losing only 2-3 hearts of damage, everyone MUST have the same skill! It can be a key advantage in these boss fights. Especially the wither.
Sometimes I think people pay more immediate attention to joke, troll, vague, and wrong section threads here instead of the actual proper suggestions.
Community: Would love this! Support!
Me: STOP IT. STOP NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Me: Posts*
Community: Hey look! A thread with no comments! Lets leave it empty and let it die without even giving any thoughts!
2 days later:
Me: What the... where's the thread.... oh page 10
Other notes:
> If you make a banner that doesn't link back to your thread, I'll hate you a little.
> Stop suggesting: lighted torch holding, retarded bosses, new dimensions, thirst, natural disasters.
> If you don't support a gun thread because it is "OP" and "unfitting" when it clearly isn't, (eg that musket thread), I will hunt you, and I will absorb your life essence.
Chill, bro. You can still nom on crapples.
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Gapples aren't removed. Just slightly harder to nom on.
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It's more than just a few, but I'll go with IndiePhunq...
I didn't say that everyone must have the same skill. It just means that maybe you should improve yours if you're having that much trouble...
You can still use a wide assortment of other buffs and items to fight the bosses. If you still can't beat them, maybe you should practice more until you can. Or maybe wear something better than leather armor? I dunno.
The BEST way to mine diamond, layer 12 and you.
This is arguably a good thing, considering they reduce the relevance of skill in combat (which 1.9 is trying to remedy).
Think about it: the entire purpose of a god apple is to be extremely expensive (irrelevant with a gold farm) and extremely powerful. Powerful enough to kill someone solely because of that god apple, even if skill should have dictated the death of the apple-user. At least now, they're more valuable due to being finite and much rarer, meaning you'll encounter them a lot less, especially as time goes on. Eventually a server will run out completely if they have a worldborder. Definitely a good thing.
A much better idea would be their complete removal, but given the nuclear explosion that occurred when an insignificant item like the rose was removed... well, this is probably the most well-balanced thing we'll get.
Ditto and kudos!
Where did the terms "Gapples" and "Crapples" even come from?
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Notch apples stink. I'm playing survival, mining my own business when some idiot with 20 Notch apples and fully enchanted diamond armor (Where did that come from?!) comes and spam-clicks me to death. Why did they even need to exist? Minecraft PVP was already unbalanced enough.
I love 1.9. It's the only update I have been excited about for a long time.
You're the best.
I think at this point, all the reasons, whether to agree or not, have been made.
Moderators, I think we can safely lock this and let Mojang (probably Searge or Grumm) decide.
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Wait, people got mad because the Rose was removed? But your quote made me realize, this is going to break a lot of servers, notably Factions. And I mean BREAK. Powerful Factions are either going to
A. Be raided constantly for Apples
B. Be avoided because of their Apples
C. Go on a rampage with their Apples, then be screwed over shortly after
D. Sell their Apples for millions
So high ranking factions are going to be screwed or become insanely powerful. I wonder how long PvP focused servers will survive.
Edit: Oopsie, forgot to factor plugins in while making this statement.
Unless people care to counter my point made above, I'm in agreement here. (No offense to OP, we just ran out of things to discuss)
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I wasn't defending Factions, I hate those servers. But yeah, I didn't realize that, suppose I should've done my research.
“Cats are connoisseurs of comfort.”
― James Herriot, James Herriot's Cat Stories
YES! And after servers reset, gold will be absolutely useless and all the good old fun of PvPing with super gapples will be dead.
This won't even just break a lot of faction servers, this will break the factions gamemode in general.
And yes, noobs cared about what flowers are in minecraft.
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You have a good point.
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