To my count, there have been not one, not two, but FOUR "Security" updates. But, normally, having so many updates in a short period with no gameplay impact at all is strange. I think they are not security updates after all. I think they are pieces of 1.9 being slowly pre-downloaded and installed to make the install faster on launch, which will be just adding a few lines of code to release 1.9. Other games have been known to do this, but they explicitly say they are doing it.
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*PS: I have no information that suggests this, it is purely potential plzdontsueme.
Imagine being a game developer, and you made a really popular game. If you found security exploits and crash bugs, would you choose to wait months to patch the bugs for your major update?
And I don't think that they are slowly downloading 1.9. The update won't be that big. The 1.8.7 jar file is only around 7-8 megabytes. It's not like 1.9 is going to make Minecraft a 30+ GB game.
And like rockshe9 said, if they were slowly installing 1.9, people would have found out already.
To my count, there have been not one, not two, but FOUR "Security" updates. But, normally, having so many updates in a short period with no gameplay impact at all is strange. I think they are not security updates after all. I think they are pieces of 1.9 being slowly pre-downloaded and installed to make the install faster on launch, which will be just adding a few lines of code to release 1.9. Other games have been known to do this, but they explicitly say they are doing it.
Comment with YOUR theories as well.
*PS: I have no information that suggests this, it is purely potential plzdontsueme.
Every time minecraft updates it downloads an entirely new separate version.jar file. Look in .minecraft/versions. Downloading a bit of 1.9 code into new 1.8 versions would do literally nothing. It's just bug fixes and security enhancements.
Mojang could at least be more descriptive than just posting "We have released Minecraft version <version> to fix some security issues. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions.", which is word for word identical for 1.8.4, 1.8.6 and 1.8.7 (and 1.8.5 if they hadn't immediately sent out 1.8.6).
Also, they almost never implement new features or bug fixes, even more serious ones, into older versions once they start working on the next version; some of the security issues affect versions prior to 1.8 (for example, here is an issue that affects versions since at least 1.6.2, if more relevant since 1.8 due to networking changes to allow much bigger packets) - yet they are not rushing out with patches for 1.6 and 1.7.
Mojang could at least be more descriptive than just posting "We have released Minecraft version <version> to fix some security issues. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions.", which is word for word identical for 1.8.4, 1.8.6 and 1.8.7 (and 1.8.5 if they hadn't immediately sent out 1.8.6).
Also, they almost never implement new features or bug fixes, even more serious ones, into older versions once they start working on the next version; some of the security issues affect versions prior to 1.8 (for example, here is an issue that affects versions since at least 1.6.2, if more relevant since 1.8 due to networking changes to allow much bigger packets) - yet they are not rushing out with patches for 1.6 and 1.7.
And so? Of course 1.8.7 is out... I even mentioned it... please read more carefully...
Indeed, where do you think I got "We have released Minecraft version <version> to fix some security issues. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions." from?
Mojang could at least be more descriptive than just posting "We have released Minecraft version <version> to fix some security issues. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions.", which is word for word identical for 1.8.4, 1.8.6 and 1.8.7 (and 1.8.5 if they hadn't immediately sent out 1.8.6).
Also, they almost never implement new features or bug fixes, even more serious ones, into older versions once they start working on the next version; some of the security issues affect versions prior to 1.8 (for example, here is an issue that affects versions since at least 1.6.2, if more relevant since 1.8 due to networking changes to allow much bigger packets) - yet they are not rushing out with patches for 1.6 and 1.7.
Mojang could at least be more descriptive than just posting "We have released Minecraft version <version> to fix some security issues. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions.", which is word for word identical for 1.8.4, 1.8.6 and 1.8.7 (and 1.8.5 if they hadn't immediately sent out 1.8.6).
Also, they almost never implement new features or bug fixes, even more serious ones, into older versions once they start working on the next version; some of the security issues affect versions prior to 1.8 (for example, here is an issue that affects versions since at least 1.6.2, if more relevant since 1.8 due to networking changes to allow much bigger packets) - yet they are not rushing out with patches for 1.6 and 1.7.
Wouldn't expect them to do it for 1.6, but patches for 1.7.10 would be good as many people and servers still use it.
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Mojang could at least be more descriptive than just posting "We have released Minecraft version <version> to fix some security issues. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions.", which is word for word identical for 1.8.4, 1.8.6 and 1.8.7 (and 1.8.5 if they hadn't immediately sent out 1.8.6).
Also, they almost never implement new features or bug fixes, even more serious ones, into older versions once they start working on the next version; some of the security issues affect versions prior to 1.8 (for example, here is an issue that affects versions since at least 1.6.2, if more relevant since 1.8 due to networking changes to allow much bigger packets) - yet they are not rushing out with patches for 1.6 and 1.7.
As developer said, just go to mojang.com, I never read the update feed for changelogs.
1.8 was a massive update. And, it left behind it's fair share's of bugs. So, imagine it as such, their putting all these bug fixes, and security updates to pave, and smoothen out the road for 1.9 to come along.
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Wouldn't expect them to do it for 1.6, but patches for 1.7.10 would be good as many people and servers still use it.
Don't count on it. Like any developer, they want old versions to die out in favor of the newest updates. Supporting old versions is a waste of time. You want the fixes, you need to update. Simple.
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Don't count on it. Like any developer, they want old versions to die out in favor of the newest updates. Supporting old versions is a waste of time. You want the fixes, you need to update. Simple.
Actually, it's not that simple. They basically dug an even bigger pit of bugs to fill with 1.8 that people are still using 1.7. You may get some fixes, but moving to 1.8 a lot of your servers go incompatible, less mods, plugins, etc. and it's large share of still-unfixed-bugs.
While it's true that they want people to use their latest versions, it's also true that they screwed up their versions, so now we have a good reason to stay behind.
However, the problem with releasing another patch for 1.7 would be, how are they supposed to get people to update it? It would show as a new update for 1.8 users, which would mess things up. It'd be nice if they separated the major versions more, so you could choose in the launcher "Minecraft 1.7" or "Minecraft 1.8" and it would give you patches for them, or just choose the version individual.
Actually, it's not that simple. They basically dug an even bigger pit of bugs to fill with 1.8 that people are still using 1.7. You may get some fixes, but moving to 1.8 a lot of your servers go incompatible, less mods, plugins, etc. and it's large share of still-unfixed-bugs.
While it's true that they want people to use their latest versions, it's also true that they screwed up their versions, so now we have a good reason to stay behind.
However, the problem with releasing another patch for 1.7 would be, how are they supposed to get people to update it? It would show as a new update for 1.8 users, which would mess things up. It'd be nice if they separated the major versions more, so you could choose in the launcher "Minecraft 1.7" or "Minecraft 1.8" and it would give you patches for them, or just choose the version individual.
It is that simple. 1.8 made some massive changes, yes, please go read up on what they changed and understand why those changes screwed up a lot of things. They basically rewrote the engine, so naturally problems arose. And due to tose changes, it made transitioning mods very difficult, so modders basically said screw it and decided to stay with 1.7. Mojang improbed the game overall with 1.8, and modders decided they didn't want to put in the work for the transition, so now we have this split. The reality is, it is the community that is holding the game back at this point.
They wont backtrack, ever. That would be in poor form for them and show they have no faith in the direction they are going.
It is that simple. 1.8 made some massive changes, yes, please go read up on what they changed and understand why those changes screwed up a lot of things. They basically rewrote the engine, so naturally problems arose. And due to tose changes, it made transitioning mods very difficult, so modders basically said screw it and decided to stay with 1.7. Mojang improbed the game overall with 1.8, and modders decided they didn't want to put in the work for the transition, so now we have this split. The reality is, it is the community that is holding the game back at this point.
They wont backtrack, ever. That would be in poor form for them and show they have no faith in the direction they are going.
The direction they are going doesn't seem to work well for many people. Yes, they made changes, but gave it a fair share of problems as well. The reason we are holding it back is, because one, 1.8 released with a lot of problems so people stayed with 1.7, and two, it took a lot of time for people to update their mods.
You're forgetting servers too, with the issues with bukkit after that retard reported whatever, and the lack of updated plugins, it was not easy for servers to update. The idea is for many people, 1.7 works well, so why update for this? Of course, we want to update, but things are taking time. If they keep true to their word and don't introduce huge engine changes, then it will be easier for modders to update, once we get on track with the drastic change of 1.8. Before you tell me how we are moving in the better direction, yes, I've heard that, but I'm just saying that people are finding reasons to stay on 1.7 for now.
Same could be said about basically any major version jump. 1.8 has had a long adaption period, yes, but people refusing to switch over due to misinformation is also hurting things. Few people are even trying to mod for 1.8, so naturally others will hang back for the sake of mods.
Both sides are to blame for various reasons.
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Cast aside your festive doylaks: dragon stuff is about to happen.
Multiplayer is lonely once you understand how it actually works.
To my count, there have been not one, not two, but FOUR "Security" updates. But, normally, having so many updates in a short period with no gameplay impact at all is strange. I think they are not security updates after all. I think they are pieces of 1.9 being slowly pre-downloaded and installed to make the install faster on launch, which will be just adding a few lines of code to release 1.9. Other games have been known to do this, but they explicitly say they are doing it.
Comment with YOUR theories as well.
*PS: I have no information that suggests this, it is purely potential plzdontsueme.
Yea there probably just security updates do "secret" behind them if 1.9 was secretly being downloaded i'm sure many people would of already found out.
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Wow minecraft is acting like its getting ddosed!
Imagine being a game developer, and you made a really popular game. If you found security exploits and crash bugs, would you choose to wait months to patch the bugs for your major update?
And I don't think that they are slowly downloading 1.9. The update won't be that big. The 1.8.7 jar file is only around 7-8 megabytes. It's not like 1.9 is going to make Minecraft a 30+ GB game.
And like rockshe9 said, if they were slowly installing 1.9, people would have found out already.
Every time minecraft updates it downloads an entirely new separate version.jar file. Look in .minecraft/versions. Downloading a bit of 1.9 code into new 1.8 versions would do literally nothing. It's just bug fixes and security enhancements.
Mojang could at least be more descriptive than just posting "We have released Minecraft version <version> to fix some security issues. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions.", which is word for word identical for 1.8.4, 1.8.6 and 1.8.7 (and 1.8.5 if they hadn't immediately sent out 1.8.6).
Also, they almost never implement new features or bug fixes, even more serious ones, into older versions once they start working on the next version; some of the security issues affect versions prior to 1.8 (for example, here is an issue that affects versions since at least 1.6.2, if more relevant since 1.8 due to networking changes to allow much bigger packets) - yet they are not rushing out with patches for 1.6 and 1.7.
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
1.8.7 is out bruh
And so? Of course 1.8.7 is out... I even mentioned it... please read more carefully...
Indeed, where do you think I got "We have released Minecraft version <version> to fix some security issues. Updating is highly recommended from older versions, and is 100% compatible with all 1.8 versions." from?
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
https://mojang.com/2015/06/minecraft-1-8-7-security-release/
Wouldn't expect them to do it for 1.6, but patches for 1.7.10 would be good as many people and servers still use it.
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1.8 was a massive update. And, it left behind it's fair share's of bugs. So, imagine it as such, their putting all these bug fixes, and security updates to pave, and smoothen out the road for 1.9 to come along.
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These are indeed real security updates. I've seen several of these bugs and they aren't pleasant.
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Don't count on it. Like any developer, they want old versions to die out in favor of the newest updates. Supporting old versions is a waste of time. You want the fixes, you need to update. Simple.
Cast aside your festive doylaks: dragon stuff is about to happen.
Multiplayer is lonely once you understand how it actually works.
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That would actually be very slow. The 1.8 jar is only 7-8 megabytes. I can download at 10 MB/s, so it should only take a little more than a second.
Actually, it's not that simple. They basically dug an even bigger pit of bugs to fill with 1.8 that people are still using 1.7. You may get some fixes, but moving to 1.8 a lot of your servers go incompatible, less mods, plugins, etc. and it's large share of still-unfixed-bugs.
While it's true that they want people to use their latest versions, it's also true that they screwed up their versions, so now we have a good reason to stay behind.
However, the problem with releasing another patch for 1.7 would be, how are they supposed to get people to update it? It would show as a new update for 1.8 users, which would mess things up. It'd be nice if they separated the major versions more, so you could choose in the launcher "Minecraft 1.7" or "Minecraft 1.8" and it would give you patches for them, or just choose the version individual.
Am I really reading a post like that ??!
Let me be VERY clear and short:
Security updates are not always correcting a bug you will absolutely have on your game on your specific computer model and version.
That's it.
They wont backtrack, ever. That would be in poor form for them and show they have no faith in the direction they are going.
Cast aside your festive doylaks: dragon stuff is about to happen.
Multiplayer is lonely once you understand how it actually works.
Alpha 1.0.4
The direction they are going doesn't seem to work well for many people. Yes, they made changes, but gave it a fair share of problems as well. The reason we are holding it back is, because one, 1.8 released with a lot of problems so people stayed with 1.7, and two, it took a lot of time for people to update their mods.
You're forgetting servers too, with the issues with bukkit after that retard reported whatever, and the lack of updated plugins, it was not easy for servers to update. The idea is for many people, 1.7 works well, so why update for this? Of course, we want to update, but things are taking time. If they keep true to their word and don't introduce huge engine changes, then it will be easier for modders to update, once we get on track with the drastic change of 1.8. Before you tell me how we are moving in the better direction, yes, I've heard that, but I'm just saying that people are finding reasons to stay on 1.7 for now.
Same could be said about basically any major version jump. 1.8 has had a long adaption period, yes, but people refusing to switch over due to misinformation is also hurting things. Few people are even trying to mod for 1.8, so naturally others will hang back for the sake of mods.
Both sides are to blame for various reasons.
Cast aside your festive doylaks: dragon stuff is about to happen.
Multiplayer is lonely once you understand how it actually works.
Alpha 1.0.4