October 25th is when 1.7 came out. September 2nd is when 1.8 came out. More than 11 months. People need to do math.
Alright let's do the math.
1.7.2 came out on October 25th, 2013. If we round it out to November 1, that's one week between the two dates.
November 2013 - August 2014: 10 months.
If 1.8 came out on September 2, 2014, that's exactly 10 months, 1 week, and 2 days between 1.7 and 1.8. LESS THAN 11 MONTHS. People need to do the math.
1.7.2 came out on October 25th, 2013. If we round it out to September 1, that's one week between the two dates.
November 2013 - August 2014: 10 months.
If 1.8 came out on September 2, 2014, that's exactly 10 months, 1 week, and 2 days between 1.7 and 1.8. LESS THAN 11 MONTHS. People need to do the math.
Most people should notice a performance improvement with VBOs - they only exist to improve performance.
In a rough nutshell: VBOs allow blocks to be loaded into your graphics card and stored there ready to be drawn any time - they don't have to be redefined every time they're drawn. With even a vaguely reasonable graphics card VBOs should give you a very noticeable improvement.
There can be performance improvements either way, it all depends on the person's system. So I agree that just saying turn off VBO to improve performance is bad as blanket advice without saying why but saying turn on VBOs to improve performance is bad advice as well. If the system can't use it, it may actually hurt performance by turning them on.
I play it off my old laptop which has integrated graphics. I'll get no improvement from VBO on. When I was testing the snapshot, I had performance hits when I turned it on or off inside the game. I had to either switch it from main menu or just restart the game. In an earlier snapshot, turning them on would also cause chunks not to load. It'll also get a bit buggy if I set the render distance really high (20+) then set it back down (around 16). Chunks won't load for awhile and I can see the side of the chunks like an earlier screenshot showed.
I think this update is actually faster. My girlfriend plays it on a $300 laptop she bought last black friday. 1.7 was a bit laggy for her and when she updated, all the lag went away.
For anyone having FPS problems that they didn't have in 1.7: make sure you're using 64 bit java, not 32 bit. It won't solve the problem, but will reduce it.
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Alright let's do the math.
1.7.2 came out on October 25th, 2013. If we round it out to September 1, that's one week between the two dates.
November 2013 - August 2014: 10 months.
If 1.8 came out on September 2, 2014, that's exactly 10 months, 1 week, and 2 days between 1.7 and 1.8. LESS THAN 11 MONTHS. People need to do the math.
Sorry about that, now I see where you're getting at. Math skills a bit rusty, with school just starting up. Many people have been saying 8-9 months, though, which really lowers it.
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For anyone having FPS problems that they didn't have in 1.7: make sure you're using 64 bit java, not 32 bit. It won't solve the problem, but will reduce it.
Here's a summary of the thread in one image of his FPS data:
Thanks, though I already had it. FPS decreased from 2000+ to less than 60 for me, and it changes so much, but stays under 65 all the time. Good advice to at least help, though.
Ironically you dont know the calander. Lemme sing you the month song real quick
january, february, march, april, may, june, july, september, october, november, december.
He/she rounded to the correct month.
Nope, Leslie was right, I had rounded to the wrong month.
I'm going to hop out of this discussion. Nothing really relevant here since OP has abandoned the topic and people are just bringing up the same lag complaints.
If you're gonna correct someone like that, at least check what you type before hitting the post reply button. Saying that my post had no significance to your point is invalid -- as your point was teaching someone the months yet you failed to know them all yourself, or well, "mistakenly" forgot to type August. I bet Leslie is correct himself, not gonna bother doing the math though.
My point was not to teach them the months, it was to show that jedimasterblox was right. it was 10 months, not 11.
Alright let's do the math.
1.7.2 came out on October 25th, 2013. If we round it out to November 1, that's one week between the two dates.
November 2013 - August 2014: 10 months.
If 1.8 came out on September 2, 2014, that's exactly 10 months, 1 week, and 2 days between 1.7 and 1.8. LESS THAN 11 MONTHS. People need to do the math.
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Yes. cause I totally spread gold bars on my toast...
There can be performance improvements either way, it all depends on the person's system. So I agree that just saying turn off VBO to improve performance is bad as blanket advice without saying why but saying turn on VBOs to improve performance is bad advice as well. If the system can't use it, it may actually hurt performance by turning them on.
I play it off my old laptop which has integrated graphics. I'll get no improvement from VBO on. When I was testing the snapshot, I had performance hits when I turned it on or off inside the game. I had to either switch it from main menu or just restart the game. In an earlier snapshot, turning them on would also cause chunks not to load. It'll also get a bit buggy if I set the render distance really high (20+) then set it back down (around 16). Chunks won't load for awhile and I can see the side of the chunks like an earlier screenshot showed.
I think this update is actually faster. My girlfriend plays it on a $300 laptop she bought last black friday. 1.7 was a bit laggy for her and when she updated, all the lag went away.
See LeslieGilliams' testing here.
Here's a summary of the thread in one image of his FPS data:
This is data from LeslieGilliams' testing in this thread.
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Yes, but those are mere bug fixes. We're talking about an update with actual couple hundred bug fixes and features, blocks, etc.
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Sorry about that, now I see where you're getting at. Math skills a bit rusty, with school just starting up. Many people have been saying 8-9 months, though, which really lowers it.
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First, 5 year olds know how to add (Lol?). Second, getting from September 2nd to October 25th is not purely adding, at all.
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Thanks, though I already had it. FPS decreased from 2000+ to less than 60 for me, and it changes so much, but stays under 65 all the time. Good advice to at least help, though.
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1.7.2 added like 20 new biomes and was a bug fix
Ah, you're right. Derp. I meant November, not September.
1.7=1.7.2.
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https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-62958
Ironically you dont know the calander. Lemme sing you the month song real quick
january, february, march, april, may, june, july, september, october, november, december.
He/she rounded to the correct month.
That was a mistake. Plus it doesnt have any significance on the point i was making, so.
Nope, Leslie was right, I had rounded to the wrong month.
I'm going to hop out of this discussion. Nothing really relevant here since OP has abandoned the topic and people are just bringing up the same lag complaints.
My point was not to teach them the months, it was to show that jedimasterblox was right. it was 10 months, not 11.
Your link is invalid.
Putting the CENDENT back in transcendent!
Just tested my theory, bug still remains.
Again, not my point. It was 10 months, not 11.