This update wasn't worth the wait, what so ever.
People have made massive mods waaay better than this update in a few weeks/months, not a freaking year+.
Yet you fail to realize the massive amounts of bugs and compatibility issues that come along with those "amazing" mods. A crucial aspect of this update had been the extreme amounts of rewrites to the game, bring the long-promised Plugin API. Yet, while doing such amazing improvements in extricating Notch's mess of a code, I am speechless at how they managed to pull off bringing us content at the same time of rewrites.
I don't believe a Plugin API would have ever existed if Notch remained lead programmer. You've seen his mistakes, and this is the price Mojang has to pay to improve and generate content delivery for not only Mojang, but for the community itself. Modders, plugin creators, mapmakers, we all get a bit of the fun; and to me, that is something Mojang failed to present in the past.
Unfortunately, not everything can be accomplished at once at your own personal catering. It is indeed true that modders may produce more content-worth features. However, you fail to realize that those mods only deal with certain aspects of the code, and not the whole game itself. Many modders impose their perfunctory efforts in optimization, which is indeed, not their role, but Mojang's. It's a reason that the modding community has created such a false atmosphere of work progress— they do not have to deal with internal bugs, code rewrites, nor optimization for the general community, for everything in the game, not simply what a modder adds.
Yet, they managed to pull it off. Multithreading, one of the most difficult aspects of modern programming; yet, they pulled it off. At the same time, providing us with underwater monuments, new stones, slimeblocks, hundreds of bug fixes, etc. The changelog is much, much larger than the previous update, which "Changed the World".
If you are going to complain about the lack of something, please consider the efforts in presenting what they did give us and that they did give us something.
I hope Mojang regrets releasing 1.8, and 1.9 will fix every single bad point about 1.8 (E.G. removing the stupid endermites and maybe removing bunnies or remaking them, and making the doors 3D again in their old style in one of the snapshots).
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People just accept an easier more broken Minecraft rather than a good updated one. It's a fact, maybe.
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I haven't found one person on this thread that has found use of these commands.
- Blockdata: I can easily use this to change the datatag of an existing block while not having to get all the other NBT value associated with it(I.E. Signs)
- Clone & Fill: Let's be honest, nearly everyone wanted worldedit in Vanilla minecraft.
- Entitydata: See Blockdata.
- Execute: Can be used to run commands relative to a player.(I.E setblock 1 block below Player every 5 seconds. Before it was extremely hard to get player relativity in commands)
- Particle: Can be used to appeal for maps, can be used to troll friends, and they added /summon already so why not?
- stats: I haven't looked too much into it personally, but the maker of Simburbia used stats and blockstats for the making of their map, and that turned out amazing IMPO.
- testforblocks: Good for using command blocks to make a pattern lock.
- Title: Nothing too much here besides looks.
- Trigger: Now players don't need to be opped for /tellraw.
- Worldborder: Vanilla way of setting a border so players don't load too many chunks.
Theres a use for all the commands except for title, title is more or less random but not bad nonetheless.
This has probably been mentioned before, but one of the reasons it took so long is rewriting of many internal systems, such as how GUIs are handled, how blocks and items are rendered (with the side effect of allowing resource packs to use custom models, yay!) and the removal of metadata in favor 'blockstates'. You should be pleased to get features alongside these huge internal changes. Mojang is slowly refactoring the codebase with new and more efficient ways of doing things, with the theoretical goal of the mystical 'Plugin API', but also possibly allowing new stuff in mods.
Seems some people improved, while others regressed. I fall into the latter category. From reading around today, it seems to be roughly a 60/40 split (lag being the slight majority). Regardless of what the final/actual figures are, it's obvious enough that there's some sort of issue(s) on Mojang's side which need some serious fixing.
There is always gonna be lag, weather you have a good computer or not.
Let me summarize everything that people are complaining about and respond.
1. "Armor stands are from bibliocraft! Mojang stole it!"
Bibliocraft did not invent the armor stand, nor did they copyright it. I agree it was a disrespectful move, but mojang did nothing wrong. And at least we have armor stands without having to add a mod.
2. "This update is causing lag!"
No. This update reduces lag. Increased lag is a result of something happening on your side. Minecraft does not have increased lag in 1.8.
3. "The commands are useless!"
Bro r u srs. That statement requires ignorance on an unfathomable level to comprehend. Mapmakers and builders will both benefit from these.
4. "But it took too long!"
Do you work at Mojang? Do you know what notch and jeb have happening at their personal lives? Do you know every single thing that happened at Mojang during the development of 1.8? I would think not. So you have no right to put a time limit on this.
5. "Yeah but everyone who likes 1.8 is stupid."
Once again, a statement like that takes ignorance on an unfathomable level to comprehend. I like 1.8. I scored above average on all of my SoL's last year. Saying that just because someone has one trait does not necessarily mean that another trait comes along with it unconditionally. In fact, saying that everyone who likes 1.8 is dumb is saying that every horse is white just because its a horse.
6. "I still dont like it though."
And theres nothing i can change about that. Thats your opinion, so just keep it to yourself. My mom once told me, "If you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all." I think we all need to respect that rule.
People just accept an easier more broken Minecraft rather than a good updated one. It's a fact, maybe.
No, you're just butthurt that people like 1.8 better than 1.7 and that you are a minority.
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I'm sorry you feel such an unnatural emotional attachment to this game or company that you feel the need to come to the rescue every time someone posts something negative.
I'm sorry you feel the need to bash this game at every possible opportunity. Do you even enjoy minecraft at all? Your post history is all complaining.
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I'm sorry you feel such an unnatural emotional attachment to this game or company that you feel the need to come to the rescue every time someone posts something negative.
And I'm sorry that when somebody does, the way you respond is to slam it in someone's face to get their attention. "Criticism is a form of feedback," Yet what I'm hearing coming out of you is, "The lag sucked and so does this update," did you even look at the good stuff of the update? Not saying you didn't but I don't remember one thing you said that was good about the update. A good critic lists both the good and the bad.
Look man, I respect you and your opinion but don't the people who liked the update have one too?
And I care for this crappy opinion how? It's simple: I don't give a creepers neck.
People really lack respect for what it takes to code. 1.8 is an excellent update, almost like how 1.4 was. The new commands, mobs, blocks, command NBT tags, and skin updates are superb! Unfortunately with the "optimizations" I haven't seen much of a difference in FPS, and on my SP it went down... but that's just my experience which can be fixed in the coming bug fix and optimization updates, and making a post in the support section of the forums. If you don't like the update, then follow the three S's:
Sit down
Shut your piehole
and Stop complaining and play an old version of Minecraft.
In any second now this thread is gonna get locked... I know it...
My biggest disappointment, besides the horrible performance, was the armor stand. I thought it was going to be a scarecrow to attract mobs, but it ended up being pointless decoration.
No, you're just butthurt that people like 1.8 better than 1.7 and that you are a minority.
I'm not the butthurt one, you're all are, and me and the other hates just have a thing called 'common sense'.
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Yet you fail to realize the massive amounts of bugs and compatibility issues that come along with those "amazing" mods. A crucial aspect of this update had been the extreme amounts of rewrites to the game, bring the long-promised Plugin API. Yet, while doing such amazing improvements in extricating Notch's mess of a code, I am speechless at how they managed to pull off bringing us content at the same time of rewrites.
I don't believe a Plugin API would have ever existed if Notch remained lead programmer. You've seen his mistakes, and this is the price Mojang has to pay to improve and generate content delivery for not only Mojang, but for the community itself. Modders, plugin creators, mapmakers, we all get a bit of the fun; and to me, that is something Mojang failed to present in the past.
Unfortunately, not everything can be accomplished at once at your own personal catering. It is indeed true that modders may produce more content-worth features. However, you fail to realize that those mods only deal with certain aspects of the code, and not the whole game itself. Many modders impose their perfunctory efforts in optimization, which is indeed, not their role, but Mojang's. It's a reason that the modding community has created such a false atmosphere of work progress— they do not have to deal with internal bugs, code rewrites, nor optimization for the general community, for everything in the game, not simply what a modder adds.
Yet, they managed to pull it off. Multithreading, one of the most difficult aspects of modern programming; yet, they pulled it off. At the same time, providing us with underwater monuments, new stones, slimeblocks, hundreds of bug fixes, etc. The changelog is much, much larger than the previous update, which "Changed the World".
If you are going to complain about the lack of something, please consider the efforts in presenting what they did give us and that they did give us something.
Yep, unplayable lag, I hope there's a reason and it gets fixed.
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No, just the same as mcf
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/recent-updates-and-snapshots/2199038-1-8-vs-1-7
There's just an extremely loud minority here.
People just accept an easier more broken Minecraft rather than a good updated one. It's a fact, maybe.
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"Fact maybe"?
1.7 and 1.8 are equally easy to play - pick one in the launcher.
Anyway, people only vote for the one they prefer.
Correction: we have more lag
I can't think of another signature yet.
- Blockdata: I can easily use this to change the datatag of an existing block while not having to get all the other NBT value associated with it(I.E. Signs)
- Clone & Fill: Let's be honest, nearly everyone wanted worldedit in Vanilla minecraft.
- Entitydata: See Blockdata.
- Execute: Can be used to run commands relative to a player.(I.E setblock 1 block below Player every 5 seconds. Before it was extremely hard to get player relativity in commands)
- Particle: Can be used to appeal for maps, can be used to troll friends, and they added /summon already so why not?
- stats: I haven't looked too much into it personally, but the maker of Simburbia used stats and blockstats for the making of their map, and that turned out amazing IMPO.
- testforblocks: Good for using command blocks to make a pattern lock.
- Title: Nothing too much here besides looks.
- Trigger: Now players don't need to be opped for /tellraw.
- Worldborder: Vanilla way of setting a border so players don't load too many chunks.
Theres a use for all the commands except for title, title is more or less random but not bad nonetheless.
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Curse PremiumThere is always gonna be lag, weather you have a good computer or not.
1. "Armor stands are from bibliocraft! Mojang stole it!"
Bibliocraft did not invent the armor stand, nor did they copyright it. I agree it was a disrespectful move, but mojang did nothing wrong. And at least we have armor stands without having to add a mod.
2. "This update is causing lag!"
No. This update reduces lag. Increased lag is a result of something happening on your side. Minecraft does not have increased lag in 1.8.
3. "The commands are useless!"
Bro r u srs. That statement requires ignorance on an unfathomable level to comprehend. Mapmakers and builders will both benefit from these.
4. "But it took too long!"
Do you work at Mojang? Do you know what notch and jeb have happening at their personal lives? Do you know every single thing that happened at Mojang during the development of 1.8? I would think not. So you have no right to put a time limit on this.
5. "Yeah but everyone who likes 1.8 is stupid."
Once again, a statement like that takes ignorance on an unfathomable level to comprehend. I like 1.8. I scored above average on all of my SoL's last year. Saying that just because someone has one trait does not necessarily mean that another trait comes along with it unconditionally. In fact, saying that everyone who likes 1.8 is dumb is saying that every horse is white just because its a horse.
6. "I still dont like it though."
And theres nothing i can change about that. Thats your opinion, so just keep it to yourself. My mom once told me, "If you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all." I think we all need to respect that rule.
No, you're just butthurt that people like 1.8 better than 1.7 and that you are a minority.
Regardless of what change you do, no matter how small, someone will complain. - Jens Bergensten
If you want me to see your reply, make sure to quote my post in your reply.
I'm sorry you feel the need to bash this game at every possible opportunity. Do you even enjoy minecraft at all? Your post history is all complaining.
Regardless of what change you do, no matter how small, someone will complain. - Jens Bergensten
If you want me to see your reply, make sure to quote my post in your reply.
And I'm sorry that when somebody does, the way you respond is to slam it in someone's face to get their attention. "Criticism is a form of feedback," Yet what I'm hearing coming out of you is, "The lag sucked and so does this update," did you even look at the good stuff of the update? Not saying you didn't but I don't remember one thing you said that was good about the update. A good critic lists both the good and the bad.
Look man, I respect you and your opinion but don't the people who liked the update have one too?
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Curse PremiumPeople really lack respect for what it takes to code. 1.8 is an excellent update, almost like how 1.4 was. The new commands, mobs, blocks, command NBT tags, and skin updates are superb! Unfortunately with the "optimizations" I haven't seen much of a difference in FPS, and on my SP it went down... but that's just my experience which can be fixed in the coming bug fix and optimization updates, and making a post in the support section of the forums. If you don't like the update, then follow the three S's:
Sit down
Shut your piehole
and Stop complaining and play an old version of Minecraft.
In any second now this thread is gonna get locked... I know it...
Figured it was time for a change.
I'm not the butthurt one, you're all are, and me and the other hates just have a thing called 'common sense'.
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