Smokers make you cook food faster. It seems like it should be the fastest way to cook food right? Nope. That title belongs to the... campfire? Yeah, campfires can cook up to 4 items at once, at the same speed as a furnace. Also, campfires are cheaper than smokers(although that hardly matters because both are cheap). Also, smokers are only good for getting butcher villagers, and I have never seen a large scale raw meat farm. So, campfires are better.
Smokers do not suck, simply they aren't probably as useful as their ore counterpart, the blast furnace.
I usually begin with some plain furnaces, then I upgrade to an automatic (cart-based) furnace, maybe just 8 to keep the rail and redstone just simple). Way past this point, if I have to smelt a lot of ores (it will be the case specifically in 1.17 where fortune will affect ores), I would build the same auto-furnace but with blast ones.
The plain auto-furnace is good because it can also cook clay and stone for builds, while smokers can't: if your furnace is large enough the automation will compensate the slower speed.
Of course no automation is possibile with campfires (you can put a 9x9 hopper platform under a campfire to collect food, but that's all you get, in exchange for a significant amount of iron).
I find both smokers and blast furnaces largely useless because of their highly limiting nature. They are more expensive to build than regular furnace, offer no fuel advantage, and if I want to smelt stuff 2x faster, I can set up two furnaces instead of one. Heck, early game I will usually set up a wall of 8-10 furnaces at the base to use concurrently.
Later game when I build a 16-furnace smelter, it really pumps it. I can toss in sand, ore, meat, potatoes, cobble, stone, cactus, wood and what not, and it will smelt them all - fast. Heck, once I build an iron farm, I hardly need to smelt iron anymore. My biggest volume smelts are glass and stone(until I got silk touch)
Butchers are indeed fairly useless, so I never bother with smokers. And I use blast furnaces also only to make armorer villagers.
Campfires, I don't dig either. I can toss a stack of pork in the furnace along with several coal or wood and go about my business, building, mining, whatever. I can come back 10 minutes or 30 minutes or an hour later and the pork will be all cooked and waiting for me in the furnace. With campfire, I have to stick around, adding raw food manually and collecting the cooked stuff as it pops off. If you are the kind of player who puts stuff into furnace and then sits there twiddling thumbs watching the arrow fill up, I suppose campfire makes some sense.
I find both smokers and blast furnaces largely useless because of their highly limiting nature. They are more expensive to build than regular furnace, offer no fuel advantage, and if I want to smelt stuff 2x faster, I can set up two furnaces instead of one. Heck, early game I will usually set up a wall of 8-10 furnaces at the base to use concurrently.
Later game when I build a 16-furnace smelter, it really pumps it. I can toss in sand, ore, meat, potatoes, cobble, stone, cactus, wood and what not, and it will smelt them all - fast. Heck, once I build an iron farm, I hardly need to smelt iron anymore. My biggest volume smelts are glass and stone(until I got silk touch)
Butchers are indeed fairly useless, so I never bother with smokers. And I use blast furnaces also only to make armorer villagers.
Campfires, I don't dig either. I can toss a stack of pork in the furnace along with several coal or wood and go about my business, building, mining, whatever. I can come back 10 minutes or 30 minutes or an hour later and the pork will be all cooked and waiting for me in the furnace. With campfire, I have to stick around, adding raw food manually and collecting the cooked stuff as it pops off. If you are the kind of player who puts stuff into furnace and then sits there twiddling thumbs watching the arrow fill up, I suppose campfire makes some sense.
That would be me.
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Smokers make you cook food faster. It seems like it should be the fastest way to cook food right? Nope. That title belongs to the... campfire? Yeah, campfires can cook up to 4 items at once, at the same speed as a furnace. Also, campfires are cheaper than smokers(although that hardly matters because both are cheap). Also, smokers are only good for getting butcher villagers, and I have never seen a large scale raw meat farm. So, campfires are better.
well I tested this, a smoker cooked around 5-7 raw beef in the time it took a campfire to cook the 4.
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Depends on how you use them imo. For traveling the smoker is way better since you can mine it and go on.
A campfire is stationary unless you have silktouch. The main advantage of the campfire is that it doesnt require fuel.
But there is more to cooking:
You can automize smokers just like regular furnace using hoppers. Wich means you can cook a full chest if the smoker has enough fuel.
Imagine you would want to cook a full chest with campfires.
I use the campfire in the early game, when i don't want to mine every coal ore for having enough torches / fuel.
Once i have renewable fuel (bamboo or kelp) i don't need the campfire anymore.
My projects:
-are abandoned for now. I might pick 'em up in the future.
For now i'm working on a private modpack that suit's my own playstyle.
I am gonna stay in modded 1.12.2 untill my potato dies. No mercy! :Q
Smokers do not suck, simply they aren't probably as useful as their ore counterpart, the blast furnace.
I usually begin with some plain furnaces, then I upgrade to an automatic (cart-based) furnace, maybe just 8 to keep the rail and redstone just simple). Way past this point, if I have to smelt a lot of ores (it will be the case specifically in 1.17 where fortune will affect ores), I would build the same auto-furnace but with blast ones.
The plain auto-furnace is good because it can also cook clay and stone for builds, while smokers can't: if your furnace is large enough the automation will compensate the slower speed.
Of course no automation is possibile with campfires (you can put a 9x9 hopper platform under a campfire to collect food, but that's all you get, in exchange for a significant amount of iron).
I find both smokers and blast furnaces largely useless because of their highly limiting nature. They are more expensive to build than regular furnace, offer no fuel advantage, and if I want to smelt stuff 2x faster, I can set up two furnaces instead of one. Heck, early game I will usually set up a wall of 8-10 furnaces at the base to use concurrently.
Later game when I build a 16-furnace smelter, it really pumps it. I can toss in sand, ore, meat, potatoes, cobble, stone, cactus, wood and what not, and it will smelt them all - fast. Heck, once I build an iron farm, I hardly need to smelt iron anymore. My biggest volume smelts are glass and stone(until I got silk touch)
Butchers are indeed fairly useless, so I never bother with smokers. And I use blast furnaces also only to make armorer villagers.
Campfires, I don't dig either. I can toss a stack of pork in the furnace along with several coal or wood and go about my business, building, mining, whatever. I can come back 10 minutes or 30 minutes or an hour later and the pork will be all cooked and waiting for me in the furnace. With campfire, I have to stick around, adding raw food manually and collecting the cooked stuff as it pops off. If you are the kind of player who puts stuff into furnace and then sits there twiddling thumbs watching the arrow fill up, I suppose campfire makes some sense.
That would be me.
My projects:
-are abandoned for now. I might pick 'em up in the future.
For now i'm working on a private modpack that suit's my own playstyle.
I am gonna stay in modded 1.12.2 untill my potato dies. No mercy! :Q