Hi I am looking to buy my 8 year old a laptop just for minecraft. I have seen one in Very, the geobook and I wondered if anyone could tell me if it will be able to run the Java edition. I am not technical at all with all of this and have no idea? My son plays it at the moment on my laptop but I need him to have his own. He does download mods and play with them. The laptop is GeoBook Minecraft 14in HD Laptop - Intel Pentium, 4GB RAM, 64GB Storage, Microsoft 365 Personal Included - Green
I mean, it may technically work and allow the game to load, but that laptop is quite underpowered. The main components, the CPU and graphics processor, are already either under Java Edition's minimum requirements or at the very edge of it. It already won't be playing Minecraft very well unmodified, and when your son adds mods to it, it'll only get even more sluggish. Every update to Minecraft only makes it require more and more power to run well, and if you are starting at the minimum requirements, its performance will quickly become poor. I would recommend grabbing a computer that's slightly better. Yes, it will probably be a little more expensive, but it will last a lot longer and will save you money (i.e. buying another computer) in the long run.
Thank you so much for your quick reply. I really appreciate you letting me know. I would have purchased this and my son would have been so upset if it lags. I am very grateful. I will look for a better one. Many thanks
I don't have the laptop, I was thinking of buying it but was not sure if it would run the java edition properly. I think I need to look for one that is a bit better from the advice from Geoforce above, it probably will not run it properly.
I used to play on a computer with much worse specs and got good performance, even with mods, including things like forests of massive trees up to 64 blocks tall (as long as I didn't set leaves to Fancy and/or use >8 chunk render distance, which would cause the GPU to run out of VRAM and drop FPS down to single digits):
However, this was on a much older version, 1.6.4, and I got terrible performance on 1.8+; I doubt newer versions would even run at all as it only supported OpenGL 2.1 (the latest requirements call for 4+):
(the game was modified to have bigger caves but vanilla was the same, even worse in jungles)
Also, I'd look at a system above the recommended system requirements given how much they have increased over the years and reports of performance issues even on systems with things like an i9-9900K and RTX 2080 (though this is probably due to some software conflict, a lot of software is known to cause issues, like NVIDIA's GeForce Experience). The CPU should also emphasize single-core performance over the number of cores (4 is enough, with OpenGL itself the main bottleneck due to poor multithreading support, which is why chunk updates are still the single biggest performance bottleneck in the game despite being multithreaded (only for the Java code that generates the data to be rendered).
I used to play on a computer with much worse specs and got good performance, even with mods, including things like forests of massive trees up to 64 blocks tall (as long as I didn't set leaves to Fancy and/or use >8 chunk render distance, which would cause the GPU to run out of VRAM and drop FPS down to single digits):
However, this was on a much older version, 1.6.4, and I got terrible performance on 1.8+; I doubt newer versions would even run at all as it only supported OpenGL 2.1 (the latest requirements call for 4+):
(the game was modified to have bigger caves but vanilla was the same, even worse in jungles)
Also, I'd look at a system above the recommended system requirements given how much they have increased over the years and reports of performance issues even on systems with things like an i9-9900K and RTX 2080 (though this is probably due to some software conflict, a lot of software is known to cause issues, like NVIDIA's GeForce Experience). The CPU should also emphasize single-core performance over the number of cores (4 is enough, with OpenGL itself the main bottleneck due to poor multithreading support, which is why chunk updates are still the single biggest performance bottleneck in the game despite being multithreaded (only for the Java code that generates the data to be rendered).
Which AMD Ryzen CPU's already do very well. Look at this benchmark, note the Intel Haswell 4xxx series, although outdated, was already adequate to run Minecraft at reasonably high settings. The 3600 has the i7 4790k beat on both single core and multithreaded performance, the older i7 has 8 threads, btw, and the AMD chip being benchmarked has 12. The AMD Ryzen 5 3600 can be purchased off Amazon for desktop computers for £220.99.
Again, the much cheaper AMD Ryzen 5 3600X CPU with only 6 cores and 12 threads still has the Intel CPU i7 9700k beat in benchmarks on CPU Monkey using the Cinebench tests, both on single and multithreaded scores, it might look like a small difference at first but when you consider the cost of the chips, AMD is the clear champion here.
Why go for inferior tech if it is more expensive than the competition? no doubt the laptop alternatives will be similar because they would still be using the same architecture, albeit with lower core counts and clock speeds to make them more energy efficient for the purposes of battery life.
What I'm saying is if crystalg77 can find a better deal on a laptop with an AMD Ryzen alternative, it would be smarter in the long run.
4 cores/threads is enough for Minecraft, for now, yes, but more cores/threads would still be helpful for multitasking and ensuring background tasks do not interfere with the foreground application, in this case, Minecraft. Also there's a good chance Mojang will find a way to make Minecraft take advantage of more cores, thanks to the Zen 2 processors in the PS5 and Xbox series S/X. It would be wise to future proof a bit and go for at least a laptop that has a 4 core 8 thread Ryzen CPU, if a 6 core option is not affordable enough for the original poster who asked the question.
lets keep this on topic and answer the OP's question, not debate amd vs intel
The original poster did ask whether or not his or her laptop would be good enough for playing Minecraft, and the answer based on the specs listed, like the others I would say no. So logically an upgrade is worth suggesting in my opinion, and if a new laptop is going to be purchased then it is a good idea to recommend something that is good value for the money. Intel was king of the desktop CPU race for a time, but now they aren't. The other parts are important too like the GPU, system memory, storage drive etc, but unless people intend to play it with ray tracing, a high end GPU is unnecessary and a waste of money imo.
Thank you everyone for your replies. The computer that I said about is not one I own, I was thinking of purchasing it because it came with Minecraft installed on it and its bright green for the minecraft colour so it is being marketed as a minecraft laptop.
My son would love it because of the colour but I was worried that it would not play Java and this is what my son plays on. I will not be purchasing the laptop because it sounds like it will not run the Java and I thank you all for your replies and helping me with this.
Unfortunately I am not good at all with computers and its like a foreign language to me so I really don't understand any of the info you have put on here apart from it will not run java with the mods. I am from the UK and have a budget of about £400 so if anyone can recommend a laptop that they know will work well, I would be very grateful but I am so sorry I do not understand about intel etc? I have just got my head around 4MB ram and 8!!:lol:
I do really appreciate all of your help and I thank you for all your in depth replies and I am sorry I do not understand it.
If you can manage an extra £150 I would recommend this laptop since it has an AMD Ryzen 5 3500U quad core and 8gb of RAM with a 256gb SSD and Windows 10 on it. Your son would probably enjoy this laptop more because it would run the game a lot smoother without having to sacrifice too much on render distance. As FaerieChild said as time goes on, because of updates and newer in-game content Minecraft like other programs will continue to get more demanding little by little, so please consider this computer because it would help, as the old saying goes, you get what you pay for.
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Here is the official system requirements, compiled by the Minecraft Wiki community.
A computer with the minimum requirements should be able to play Minecraft: Java Edition. However, for the best experience, please consider the recommended requirements.
GPU: GeForce 700 Series or AMD Radeon Rx 200 Series (excluding integrated chipsets) with OpenGL 4.5
HDD: 4GB (SSD is recommended)
OS (recommended 64-bit):
- Windows: Windows 10
- macOS: macOS 10.12 Sierra
- Linux: Any modern distributions from 2014 onwards
Software Requirements:
Minecraft Release 1.6 or newer. Older versions will need to be updated to current versions
Please note that some users experience issues playing Minecraft while using a mismatched version of Java for their operating system (32 or 64 bit), while using certain versions of Java 7, or while multiple versions of Java are installed
Starting from Minecraft 1.12, Java 8 will be required to run Minecraft. If you don't know whether you have Java 8, don't worry - our installers supply Minecraft with its own version of Java by default.
A stable internet connection is required for Minecraft to download game files, authenticate usernames, and connect to multiplayer servers.
Minecraft will not run on a toaster (despite some actually using Java), your car (feel free to prove us wrong, though), Windows RT tablets or a Chromebook.
Information on system requirements for running a Minecraft server can be found on the Minecraft wiki.
Hi I am looking to buy my 8 year old a laptop just for minecraft. I have seen one in Very, the geobook and I wondered if anyone could tell me if it will be able to run the Java edition. I am not technical at all with all of this and have no idea? My son plays it at the moment on my laptop but I need him to have his own. He does download mods and play with them. The laptop is GeoBook Minecraft 14in HD Laptop - Intel Pentium, 4GB RAM, 64GB Storage, Microsoft 365 Personal Included - Green
Any advice would be greatly received. Many thanks
I mean, it may technically work and allow the game to load, but that laptop is quite underpowered. The main components, the CPU and graphics processor, are already either under Java Edition's minimum requirements or at the very edge of it. It already won't be playing Minecraft very well unmodified, and when your son adds mods to it, it'll only get even more sluggish. Every update to Minecraft only makes it require more and more power to run well, and if you are starting at the minimum requirements, its performance will quickly become poor. I would recommend grabbing a computer that's slightly better. Yes, it will probably be a little more expensive, but it will last a lot longer and will save you money (i.e. buying another computer) in the long run.
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Thank you so much for your quick reply. I really appreciate you letting me know. I would have purchased this and my son would have been so upset if it lags. I am very grateful. I will look for a better one. Many thanks
What OS is installed?
On Windows 10 the drivers maybe are not compatible anymore to run minecraft
With Win 7 this setup should be fine to run the game
Its Windows 10 installed on it.
To make sure the game will run fine you can test the demo
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/free-trial
I don't have the laptop, I was thinking of buying it but was not sure if it would run the java edition properly. I think I need to look for one that is a bit better from the advice from Geoforce above, it probably will not run it properly.
No offence, but your laptop is even more outdated than mine. lol
I'd suggest upgrading, if possible for your income.
And try to find a laptop with an AMD Ryzen processor, don't go for some overpriced and underpowered Intel based one
they've been stingy in the core race and they're paying the price for it. AMD is the go to CPU manufacturer at the moment imo.
I used to play on a computer with much worse specs and got good performance, even with mods, including things like forests of massive trees up to 64 blocks tall (as long as I didn't set leaves to Fancy and/or use >8 chunk render distance, which would cause the GPU to run out of VRAM and drop FPS down to single digits):
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Pentium-N4200-vs-AMD-Athlon-64-X2-Dual-Core-4200 /2886vs79
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/Intel-UHD-605-vs-GeForce-7600-GS/3861vs9
However, this was on a much older version, 1.6.4, and I got terrible performance on 1.8+; I doubt newer versions would even run at all as it only supported OpenGL 2.1 (the latest requirements call for 4+):
(the game was modified to have bigger caves but vanilla was the same, even worse in jungles)
Also, I'd look at a system above the recommended system requirements given how much they have increased over the years and reports of performance issues even on systems with things like an i9-9900K and RTX 2080 (though this is probably due to some software conflict, a lot of software is known to cause issues, like NVIDIA's GeForce Experience). The CPU should also emphasize single-core performance over the number of cores (4 is enough, with OpenGL itself the main bottleneck due to poor multithreading support, which is why chunk updates are still the single biggest performance bottleneck in the game despite being multithreaded (only for the Java code that generates the data to be rendered).
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Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_4790k-411-vs-amd_ryzen_5_3600x-928
Which AMD Ryzen CPU's already do very well. Look at this benchmark, note the Intel Haswell 4xxx series, although outdated, was already adequate to run Minecraft at reasonably high settings. The 3600 has the i7 4790k beat on both single core and multithreaded performance, the older i7 has 8 threads, btw, and the AMD chip being benchmarked has 12. The AMD Ryzen 5 3600 can be purchased off Amazon for desktop computers for £220.99.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Ryzen-3600X-Processor-Cache/dp/B07SQBFN2D/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=amd ryzen 5 3600x&qid=1605990895&sr=8-3
the newer Intel CPU i7 9700K octacore at 3.6ghz is priced at £271
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-BX80684I79700K-I7-9700K-3-60GHZ-SKT1151-Noir/dp/B07HHN6KBZ
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i7_9700k-888-vs-amd_ryzen_5_3600x-928
Again, the much cheaper AMD Ryzen 5 3600X CPU with only 6 cores and 12 threads still has the Intel CPU i7 9700k beat in benchmarks on CPU Monkey using the Cinebench tests, both on single and multithreaded scores, it might look like a small difference at first but when you consider the cost of the chips, AMD is the clear champion here.
Why go for inferior tech if it is more expensive than the competition? no doubt the laptop alternatives will be similar because they would still be using the same architecture, albeit with lower core counts and clock speeds to make them more energy efficient for the purposes of battery life.
What I'm saying is if crystalg77 can find a better deal on a laptop with an AMD Ryzen alternative, it would be smarter in the long run.
4 cores/threads is enough for Minecraft, for now, yes, but more cores/threads would still be helpful for multitasking and ensuring background tasks do not interfere with the foreground application, in this case, Minecraft. Also there's a good chance Mojang will find a way to make Minecraft take advantage of more cores, thanks to the Zen 2 processors in the PS5 and Xbox series S/X. It would be wise to future proof a bit and go for at least a laptop that has a 4 core 8 thread Ryzen CPU, if a 6 core option is not affordable enough for the original poster who asked the question.
The original poster did ask whether or not his or her laptop would be good enough for playing Minecraft, and the answer based on the specs listed, like the others I would say no. So logically an upgrade is worth suggesting in my opinion, and if a new laptop is going to be purchased then it is a good idea to recommend something that is good value for the money. Intel was king of the desktop CPU race for a time, but now they aren't. The other parts are important too like the GPU, system memory, storage drive etc, but unless people intend to play it with ray tracing, a high end GPU is unnecessary and a waste of money imo.
Thank you everyone for your replies. The computer that I said about is not one I own, I was thinking of purchasing it because it came with Minecraft installed on it and its bright green for the minecraft colour so it is being marketed as a minecraft laptop.
My son would love it because of the colour but I was worried that it would not play Java and this is what my son plays on. I will not be purchasing the laptop because it sounds like it will not run the Java and I thank you all for your replies and helping me with this.
Unfortunately I am not good at all with computers and its like a foreign language to me so I really don't understand any of the info you have put on here apart from it will not run java with the mods. I am from the UK and have a budget of about £400 so if anyone can recommend a laptop that they know will work well, I would be very grateful but I am so sorry I do not understand about intel etc? I have just got my head around 4MB ram and 8!!:lol:
I do really appreciate all of your help and I thank you for all your in depth replies and I am sorry I do not understand it.
As a general rule, all software becomes more demanding (needs a more powerful computer to run well) over time.
I don't live in the UK so have no idea what your budget will buy, but I'd probably either
i) get the newest you can afford or
ii) see if you can get something similar to what you have - since your son is playing Minecraft on it already it should be ok at least for now.
I don't know a lot about computers myself, so I might be missing something "obvious".
If you can manage an extra £150 I would recommend this laptop since it has an AMD Ryzen 5 3500U quad core and 8gb of RAM with a 256gb SSD and Windows 10 on it. Your son would probably enjoy this laptop more because it would run the game a lot smoother without having to sacrifice too much on render distance. As FaerieChild said as time goes on, because of updates and newer in-game content Minecraft like other programs will continue to get more demanding little by little, so please consider this computer because it would help, as the old saying goes, you get what you pay for.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-VivoBook-X512DA-R5-3500-Windows/dp/B07SHT8C3D/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=amd ryzen laptop&qid=1606447594&sr=8-3
Here is the official system requirements, compiled by the Minecraft Wiki community.
A computer with the minimum requirements should be able to play Minecraft: Java Edition. However, for the best experience, please consider the recommended requirements.
Minimum Requirements:
Recommended Requirements:
Software Requirements:
A stable internet connection is required for Minecraft to download game files, authenticate usernames, and connect to multiplayer servers.
Minecraft will not run on a toaster (despite some actually using Java), your car (feel free to prove us wrong, though), Windows RT tablets or a Chromebook.
Information on system requirements for running a Minecraft server can be found on the Minecraft wiki.
Source: https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360035131371-Minecraft-Java-Edition-system-requirements-
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