I discovered minecraft only very recently, and apart from a few tips from my friends i didn't read any tutorials yet, trying to discover everything on my own. But I'm afraid that it will take too much time and that some of the things are basically inaccessible if you don't know about them beforehand, which will make me eventually start studying it from the wiki anyway.
What's your thoughts on this? Did anybody actually learned minecraft completely on their own?
I'm guessing almost everyone did. Minecraft has only become even a little bit friendly to new players in the last couple of years, with the inclusion of the recipe book and achievements that give you more direction in what to do. If you didn't read the wiki you'd never know how to make most items in the game or how to find Strongholds or even that Strongholds existed. You'd just be wandering blindly.
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I'm guessing almost everyone did. Minecraft has only become even a little bit friendly to new players in the last couple of years, with the inclusion of the recipe book and achievements that give you more direction in what to do. If you didn't read the wiki you'd never know how to make most items in the game or how to find Strongholds or even that Strongholds existed. You'd just be wandering blindly.
Achievements have been in the game for far longer than a couple years, the first ones added in Beta 1.5, and presumably all the important guidance ones like "We need to go deeper" (Nether) and "The End" (End) were added by the official release, which were also displayed as an achievement tree with paths to follow. Although, while many do have descriptions or hints on how to get them, e.g. "Build a portal to the Nether", it doesn't say how to make a Nether portal, which is something that is unlikely to be discovered by accident.
As for myself, a lot of what I learned before I started playing came from YouTube, mainly from watching modded survival series (I knew enough to recognize what was modded or vanilla).
When I got into the game it was from Youtube first with Let's Play of Vanilla and modded, but otherwise it was the wiki.
The recipe book, narrator (feature I assume many might not use), the tons of Youtube videos, Advancements/Achievements and the notifications telling you how to play every time have been super useful to people compared to when you play the game in earlier versions and notice how it plays and how you get by without them. 1.2.5 or 1.7.10 for example compared to 1.16.
I left the wiki page as a favourite for the longest time but I don't need it anymore, I'd say I may have needed it when I was getting into the game around 1.4.5 but once it was around 1.5 or 1.7 I didn't need it and with getting into mods I didn't need to if I had Not Enough Items or knowledge I still keep from the wiki like I would work out any other game or wikis, I only use the Wiki unless it's for new features added like with 1.16 or changes to the game like with getting a Bottle O' enchanting in 1.12.2 with Villagers compared to 1.13+ with shipwrecks. But that's about it, anything else comes from mods as I spotlight daily, meaning I end up having my own informative means I contribute.
The closest I get to actually 'using' a wiki often enough outside of looking at the 1.16 stuff on the Vanilla wiki is updating the FTB one for changes to the Fabric Modloader/Fabric API wiki pages to change snapshot info, type up how to install Fabric with a launcher, install Optifine with it or so, otherwise not really.
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I started because my nephew was excited about it and we started out watching videos like StampyLongCat. I then set up an account and went looking for answers, which is when I discovered Paul Soares Jr. He has this amazing and slower-paced tutorial/let's play series called How to Survive and Thrive in Minecraft and I honestly don't believe anyone's ever come close to that level since (that's not to say there are no other good content-creators or tutorial-makers).
From there, I haunted the wiki a lot. I only went to youtube because the wiki wasn't clear enough on some points. Youtube essentially failed me, so I just started watching let's plays from Hermitcraft, Direcrew, and a few others (most of them didn't do tutorials, and when something was built that needed explaining it was more of "as you know..." and they never really went into why.
Relatively recently, I discovered Gnembon and the SciCraft crew (Ilmango, RaysWorks, etc). He's got a very heavy accent in combination with a deeper voice, so for me it was a little bit hard to understand what he was saying at times but he spends almost too much time explaining how things work and focuses less on block-by-block building tutorials. He also codedives, but unlike MasterCaver I don't think he ever shows it in his work (could be an issue of formatting, an issue of interest, or perhaps there's some sort of rule or perception of a rule (better safe than sorry) that affects youtube videos but not MCF posts)
I did not, at least not when I started (I did for specific things here and there, or after I had naturally learned my way through the game), but back in 2012 the game wasn't as content or feature filled as it is today.
Since I've started around version 1.8, I never really used the wiki unless it was for crafting recipes. I mostly learned them myself or picked up things from watching lets-plays.
I learned how to play by watching paulsoaresjr’s Survive and Thrive Series. I still watch every new vanilla Minecraft video he publishes and even go back and watch the old ones again when I’m in the mood just for their entertainment value. In the meantime There are many more Youtubers I like to watch, especially for building tips and inspiration. It‘s a great indoor hobby.
I simply watched a big Let's Play by the best known German Let's Player. That's what actually got me to buy and play Minecraft. Aside from that I can't stand watching most Minecraft tutorial makers. Each of them has something, that gets heavily on my nerves
I think you should at least look at some crafting recipes and what to do in Survival or at least watch some youtube vids on minecraft. That is what i did.
Well in my first version of minecraft the first game i opened was in a village and it was teaching me how to do stuff (something funny was i kept pressing the punching button when i should have been holding it)
Sometimes I look at crafting recipes yes, or tutorials. But bedrock edition has the option to search items and it tells you what materials are needed.
I also find it interesting that smooth diorite and granite can be crafted, much better looking aesthetics to use. It means we can use smooth diorite to make ceilings inside buildings.
Also we are no longer forced to spend absurd lengths of time in the nether to mine for quartz, when we can use a combination of quartz and diorite for large white buildings, which is much more efficient.
I discovered minecraft only very recently, and apart from a few tips from my friends i didn't read any tutorials yet, trying to discover everything on my own. But I'm afraid that it will take too much time and that some of the things are basically inaccessible if you don't know about them beforehand, which will make me eventually start studying it from the wiki anyway.
What's your thoughts on this? Did anybody actually learned minecraft completely on their own?
I feel like as the game evolved it was assumed that players would use wikis and stuff for recipes. I definitely watch a lot of Minecraft play videos and I picked up a lot of information that way, but I wasn't specifically looking for that--it just happened. But like I said, I think Minecraft was one of the first games that really was "meta" in the sense that you almost have to go outside the game to learn the game.
When I started out minecraft I learned how to play on my own. I didn't watch tutorials, because I think they are all kind of the same. They all give the same points and stuff like that, I'm not saying that all tutorials are useless because some of them are pretty helpful and provide unique tips to play minecraft. I started minecraft back in like 2014 on my phone and now I like to consider myself decent at it and I have not watched a single tutorial. And, if you are afraid of it taking to much time I wouldn't worry to much. Most things are easy to find and unlock with the advancement system in the game. If you are trying to learn I recommend playing survival and aiming for advancements because they kind of teach you how to play. Some things you might have to learn from the wiki, but other than that minecraft is pretty easy to learn on your own.
to win I just gather wood and make a pick and a sword and lots of sticks and a table and a furnace and mine some iron to get a sword, a couple of picks, and some armor and gather apples and dig straight down to y 12 and make a base there and dig like crazy and find 31 diamonds and some gold and craft gapples and full diamond set and go to a fortress get rods to make eyes of ender and go to a stronghold, gather a book and pearls and make anvil and enchant table to make an enchanted set and beat up the dragon and win
Same, that used to be me until I got advanced enough to figure out crafting recipes and learned how to make the numerous stone builds. I know that eventually if I live long enough in a reasonable amount of health, I will build a castle with stone bricks and other tough materials in survival legit, the same one I did in a creative world on Java a while back.
The only thing I'll need for that is screenshots of my own work, not tutorials of other people's.
In bedrock edition there's a special feature where the only hostile mobs that'll spawn in Tundra biomes is Strays, Phantoms and Pillagers.
Not counting mob spawners in dungeons.
So technically there are now 2 biomes without Creepers.
This is ideal for large structure building in survival, because even though you can die from hostile mobs, they will not destroy your buildings
so there is less interference and you don't have to change difficulty modes to avoid the hassle.
By the way, did you know that Endstone is immune to Creeper blasts? I figured that out on one of my older creative worlds. ^^
TNT can still leave craters Endstone, but Endstone holds up pretty well against Creeper explosions because Creeper explosions are in fact weaker than TNT. I don't know if it'll work against charged Creepers though, probably not. In that case you may want to shield an endstone structure in the overworld from lightning.
Dwarf gamer found:
Buildings - square, not round
Materials - from rubble mound
Dark caves - lit 'n' cleaned out
Settlements - deep underground
Farmability - to grinder bound
Shields - made creepers but sound
Axes and crossbows - taking mobs out
Hello everybody,
I discovered minecraft only very recently, and apart from a few tips from my friends i didn't read any tutorials yet, trying to discover everything on my own. But I'm afraid that it will take too much time and that some of the things are basically inaccessible if you don't know about them beforehand, which will make me eventually start studying it from the wiki anyway.
What's your thoughts on this? Did anybody actually learned minecraft completely on their own?
I'm guessing almost everyone did. Minecraft has only become even a little bit friendly to new players in the last couple of years, with the inclusion of the recipe book and achievements that give you more direction in what to do. If you didn't read the wiki you'd never know how to make most items in the game or how to find Strongholds or even that Strongholds existed. You'd just be wandering blindly.
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Achievements have been in the game for far longer than a couple years, the first ones added in Beta 1.5, and presumably all the important guidance ones like "We need to go deeper" (Nether) and "The End" (End) were added by the official release, which were also displayed as an achievement tree with paths to follow. Although, while many do have descriptions or hints on how to get them, e.g. "Build a portal to the Nether", it doesn't say how to make a Nether portal, which is something that is unlikely to be discovered by accident.
As for myself, a lot of what I learned before I started playing came from YouTube, mainly from watching modded survival series (I knew enough to recognize what was modded or vanilla).
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
When I got into the game it was from Youtube first with Let's Play of Vanilla and modded, but otherwise it was the wiki.
The recipe book, narrator (feature I assume many might not use), the tons of Youtube videos, Advancements/Achievements and the notifications telling you how to play every time have been super useful to people compared to when you play the game in earlier versions and notice how it plays and how you get by without them. 1.2.5 or 1.7.10 for example compared to 1.16.
I left the wiki page as a favourite for the longest time but I don't need it anymore, I'd say I may have needed it when I was getting into the game around 1.4.5 but once it was around 1.5 or 1.7 I didn't need it and with getting into mods I didn't need to if I had Not Enough Items or knowledge I still keep from the wiki like I would work out any other game or wikis, I only use the Wiki unless it's for new features added like with 1.16 or changes to the game like with getting a Bottle O' enchanting in 1.12.2 with Villagers compared to 1.13+ with shipwrecks. But that's about it, anything else comes from mods as I spotlight daily, meaning I end up having my own informative means I contribute.
The closest I get to actually 'using' a wiki often enough outside of looking at the 1.16 stuff on the Vanilla wiki is updating the FTB one for changes to the Fabric Modloader/Fabric API wiki pages to change snapshot info, type up how to install Fabric with a launcher, install Optifine with it or so, otherwise not really.
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I started because my nephew was excited about it and we started out watching videos like StampyLongCat. I then set up an account and went looking for answers, which is when I discovered Paul Soares Jr. He has this amazing and slower-paced tutorial/let's play series called How to Survive and Thrive in Minecraft and I honestly don't believe anyone's ever come close to that level since (that's not to say there are no other good content-creators or tutorial-makers).
From there, I haunted the wiki a lot. I only went to youtube because the wiki wasn't clear enough on some points. Youtube essentially failed me, so I just started watching let's plays from Hermitcraft, Direcrew, and a few others (most of them didn't do tutorials, and when something was built that needed explaining it was more of "as you know..." and they never really went into why.
Relatively recently, I discovered Gnembon and the SciCraft crew (Ilmango, RaysWorks, etc). He's got a very heavy accent in combination with a deeper voice, so for me it was a little bit hard to understand what he was saying at times but he spends almost too much time explaining how things work and focuses less on block-by-block building tutorials. He also codedives, but unlike MasterCaver I don't think he ever shows it in his work (could be an issue of formatting, an issue of interest, or perhaps there's some sort of rule or perception of a rule (better safe than sorry) that affects youtube videos but not MCF posts)
I did not, at least not when I started (I did for specific things here and there, or after I had naturally learned my way through the game), but back in 2012 the game wasn't as content or feature filled as it is today.
Never used tutorials up through 1.12 and since then only a few specific ones, mainly for farm construction plans.
Learn something new each day
Since I've started around version 1.8, I never really used the wiki unless it was for crafting recipes. I mostly learned them myself or picked up things from watching lets-plays.
I learned how to play by watching paulsoaresjr’s Survive and Thrive Series. I still watch every new vanilla Minecraft video he publishes and even go back and watch the old ones again when I’m in the mood just for their entertainment value. In the meantime There are many more Youtubers I like to watch, especially for building tips and inspiration. It‘s a great indoor hobby.
I simply watched a big Let's Play by the best known German Let's Player. That's what actually got me to buy and play Minecraft. Aside from that I can't stand watching most Minecraft tutorial makers. Each of them has something, that gets heavily on my nerves
HonkH the Let's Player here!
HonkH's Let's Play Channel on YouTube
I read wikis sometimes, but for crafting recipes. And to find out what enchantments are compatible with which or if they are stackable.
I think you should at least look at some crafting recipes and what to do in Survival or at least watch some youtube vids on minecraft. That is what i did.
Well in my first version of minecraft the first game i opened was in a village and it was teaching me how to do stuff (something funny was i kept pressing the punching button when i should have been holding it)
Sometimes I look at crafting recipes yes, or tutorials. But bedrock edition has the option to search items and it tells you what materials are needed.
I also find it interesting that smooth diorite and granite can be crafted, much better looking aesthetics to use. It means we can use smooth diorite to make ceilings inside buildings.
Also we are no longer forced to spend absurd lengths of time in the nether to mine for quartz, when we can use a combination of quartz and diorite for large white buildings, which is much more efficient.
I feel like as the game evolved it was assumed that players would use wikis and stuff for recipes. I definitely watch a lot of Minecraft play videos and I picked up a lot of information that way, but I wasn't specifically looking for that--it just happened. But like I said, I think Minecraft was one of the first games that really was "meta" in the sense that you almost have to go outside the game to learn the game.
When I started out minecraft I learned how to play on my own. I didn't watch tutorials, because I think they are all kind of the same. They all give the same points and stuff like that, I'm not saying that all tutorials are useless because some of them are pretty helpful and provide unique tips to play minecraft. I started minecraft back in like 2014 on my phone and now I like to consider myself decent at it and I have not watched a single tutorial. And, if you are afraid of it taking to much time I wouldn't worry to much. Most things are easy to find and unlock with the advancement system in the game. If you are trying to learn I recommend playing survival and aiming for advancements because they kind of teach you how to play. Some things you might have to learn from the wiki, but other than that minecraft is pretty easy to learn on your own.
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to win I just gather wood and make a pick and a sword and lots of sticks and a table and a furnace and mine some iron to get a sword, a couple of picks, and some armor and gather apples and dig straight down to y 12 and make a base there and dig like crazy and find 31 diamonds and some gold and craft gapples and full diamond set and go to a fortress get rods to make eyes of ender and go to a stronghold, gather a book and pearls and make anvil and enchant table to make an enchanted set and beat up the dragon and win
NOOB1234 SUCKS
Same, that used to be me until I got advanced enough to figure out crafting recipes and learned how to make the numerous stone builds. I know that eventually if I live long enough in a reasonable amount of health, I will build a castle with stone bricks and other tough materials in survival legit, the same one I did in a creative world on Java a while back.
The only thing I'll need for that is screenshots of my own work, not tutorials of other people's.
In bedrock edition there's a special feature where the only hostile mobs that'll spawn in Tundra biomes is Strays, Phantoms and Pillagers.
Not counting mob spawners in dungeons.
So technically there are now 2 biomes without Creepers.
This is ideal for large structure building in survival, because even though you can die from hostile mobs, they will not destroy your buildings
so there is less interference and you don't have to change difficulty modes to avoid the hassle.
By the way, did you know that Endstone is immune to Creeper blasts? I figured that out on one of my older creative worlds. ^^
TNT can still leave craters Endstone, but Endstone holds up pretty well against Creeper explosions because Creeper explosions are in fact weaker than TNT. I don't know if it'll work against charged Creepers though, probably not. In that case you may want to shield an endstone structure in the overworld from lightning.
I read a lot of various pages of https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Minecraft_Wiki practically for fun.
No video tutorials needed. But then I am the type of guy that reads a lot and can do it very, very fast, many may find that really tedious.
Dwarf gamer found:
Buildings - square, not round
Materials - from rubble mound
Dark caves - lit 'n' cleaned out
Settlements - deep underground
Farmability - to grinder bound
Shields - made creepers but sound
Axes and crossbows - taking mobs out