I want to download Wolfram Hacked Client, but doing so will go against Mojang's Minecraft EULA. Are there any hacked clients that required you a patch an original .jar, similar to IPS rom patchers used in rom hacking?
It doesn't matter, all go against the EULA since you are bypassing security measures. And besides, anyone can download a version jar regardless of whether or not they own Minecraft.
I haven't looked at the actual download but the installation instructions say that you need to download the corresponding Minecraft version first, much like how Optifine and Forge require that you download the appropriate version before you can install them; as long as it isn't a standalone working copy it isn't illegally distributing the game (including small parts is allowed, as otherwise practically all mods would be illegal, hence why the EULA refers to a "substantial part" when referring to mods. Note that they say that "hacked versions" are not allowed to be distributed but they are referring to a pre-modified jar, not a "hacked client", which could really refer to any modified version, not something that calls itself such. Likewise, the forums allow "hack/cheat" mods as long as they aren't "designed for griefing" (which is admittedly a very gray area; many people use e.g. x-ray mods to locate player's bases on servers so they can grief them, even if that isn't stated to be a use of the mod).
If anything, sp614x, the creator of Optifine, should be notified since they do not allow you to distribute Optifine as part of a modpack (including a "hacked client", which is essentially the same thing under a different name, the "hack" part refers to the fact that they are usually intended to cheat/hack on servers, including the ability to bypass cheat detection, as mentioned on the main page for Wolfram).
I haven't looked at the actual download but the installation instructions say that you need to download the corresponding Minecraft version first, much like how Optifine and Forge require that you download the appropriate version before you can install them; as long as it isn't a standalone working copy it isn't illegally distributing the game (including small parts is allowed, as otherwise practically all mods would be illegal, hence why the EULA refers to a "substantial part" when referring to mods. Note that they say that "hacked versions" are not allowed to be distributed but they are referring to a pre-modified jar, not a "hacked client", which could really refer to any modified version, not something that calls itself such. Likewise, the forums allow "hack/cheat" mods as long as they aren't "designed for griefing" (which is admittedly a very gray area; many people use e.g. x-ray mods to locate player's bases on servers so they can grief them, even if that isn't stated to be a use of the mod).
If anything, sp614x, the creator of Optifine, should be notified since they do not allow you to distribute Optifine as part of a modpack (including a "hacked client", which is essentially the same thing under a different name, the "hack" part refers to the fact that they are usually intended to cheat/hack on servers, including the ability to bypass cheat detection, as mentioned on the main page for Wolfram).
Does that mean that I can legally [even if its in a grey area] download WolfRam?
It doesn't matter, all go against the EULA since you are bypassing security measures. And besides, anyone can download a version jar regardless of whether or not they own Minecraft.
Forge is legal because it requires that you have the original jar. In fact, Forge doesn't have a jar at all. It just installs a .json [that uses the vanilla jar of a your version] and required libraries.
And besides, anyone can download a version jar regardless of whether or not they own Minecraft.
This doesn't matter for the purposes of this thread - ALL downloads MUST come from Mojang's servers, so sites like mcversions.net are perfectly fine as they just link to Mojang's download server, same for the Wiki providing direct links to the version files (though they do link to rehosted jars for a few versions, like Minecraft 2.0):
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Does that mean that I can legally [even if its in a grey area] download the WolfRam?
I was referring to forum policy on uploading "hack/cheat" mods, which only have to say that they aren't intended to be used for griefing even if they can easily be used for that:
SMP "hack" and "cheat" mods or tools are allowed unless they are designed for griefing
This is also similar to Mojang's own policy, possibly more restrictive since Mojang probably doesn't like any sort of mod/hack that could possibly be used for griefing/bypassing anti-cheats, even if that isn't a stated use for them (so a simple mod that shows your coordinates regardless of whether reduced debug is enabled could be seen as a violation since servers have a reason to hide it).
That said, if you just want to use some of Wolfram's features in singleplayer it is probably better to find the equivalent mods for them.
I was referring to forum policy on uploading "hack/cheat" mods, which only have to say that they aren't intended to be used for griefing even if they can easily be used for that:
This is also similar to Mojang's own policy, possibly more restrictive since Mojang probably doesn't like any sort of mod/hack that could possibly be used for griefing/bypassing anti-cheats, even if that isn't a stated use for them (so a simple mod that shows your coordinates regardless of whether reduced debug is enabled could be seen as a violation since servers have a reason to hide it).
That said, if you just want to use some of Wolfram's features in singleplayer it is probably better to find the equivalent mods for them.
I'll just move on to making a caudron server or something.
I want to download Wolfram Hacked Client, but doing so will go against Mojang's Minecraft EULA. Are there any hacked clients that required you a patch an original .jar, similar to IPS rom patchers used in rom hacking?
It doesn't matter, all go against the EULA since you are bypassing security measures. And besides, anyone can download a version jar regardless of whether or not they own Minecraft.
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I haven't looked at the actual download but the installation instructions say that you need to download the corresponding Minecraft version first, much like how Optifine and Forge require that you download the appropriate version before you can install them; as long as it isn't a standalone working copy it isn't illegally distributing the game (including small parts is allowed, as otherwise practically all mods would be illegal, hence why the EULA refers to a "substantial part" when referring to mods. Note that they say that "hacked versions" are not allowed to be distributed but they are referring to a pre-modified jar, not a "hacked client", which could really refer to any modified version, not something that calls itself such. Likewise, the forums allow "hack/cheat" mods as long as they aren't "designed for griefing" (which is admittedly a very gray area; many people use e.g. x-ray mods to locate player's bases on servers so they can grief them, even if that isn't stated to be a use of the mod).
If anything, sp614x, the creator of Optifine, should be notified since they do not allow you to distribute Optifine as part of a modpack (including a "hacked client", which is essentially the same thing under a different name, the "hack" part refers to the fact that they are usually intended to cheat/hack on servers, including the ability to bypass cheat detection, as mentioned on the main page for Wolfram).
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
Does that mean that I can legally [even if its in a grey area] download WolfRam?
Forge is legal because it requires that you have the original jar. In fact, Forge doesn't have a jar at all. It just installs a .json [that uses the vanilla jar of a your version] and required libraries.
This doesn't matter for the purposes of this thread - ALL downloads MUST come from Mojang's servers, so sites like mcversions.net are perfectly fine as they just link to Mojang's download server, same for the Wiki providing direct links to the version files (though they do link to rehosted jars for a few versions, like Minecraft 2.0):
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
I was referring to forum policy on uploading "hack/cheat" mods, which only have to say that they aren't intended to be used for griefing even if they can easily be used for that:
This is also similar to Mojang's own policy, possibly more restrictive since Mojang probably doesn't like any sort of mod/hack that could possibly be used for griefing/bypassing anti-cheats, even if that isn't a stated use for them (so a simple mod that shows your coordinates regardless of whether reduced debug is enabled could be seen as a violation since servers have a reason to hide it).
That said, if you just want to use some of Wolfram's features in singleplayer it is probably better to find the equivalent mods for them.
TheMasterCaver's First World - possibly the most caved-out world in Minecraft history - includes world download.
TheMasterCaver's World - my own version of Minecraft largely based on my views of how the game should have evolved since 1.6.4.
Why do I still play in 1.6.4?
I'll just move on to making a caudron server or something.
Thanks for your reply.