Leadership is control and dominance. You are, by definition, leading. They are, by definition, following. You have control over them. Despots lead in what can be considered an efficient, but morally wrong manner. You can feel good through dominance without having to be hurtful.
Destruction does not stem from feeling a lack of control. It's that they want control. Even if they have control, if they have problems, they'll want more control. It's why people whip/beat slaves or servants. The positive "switch" is addictive for them.
If you want to believe that, go ahead, but I bet I'm a better leader than you are... more inclined to get cooperation out of those who follow me voluntarily than through fear. At any rate, this is not the place to be getting into the depths of leadership philosophy.
I stand by my opinion that the destruction stems from a feeling of lack of sufficient control... which is essentially the same as what you've said... they want more control.
If you want to believe that, go ahead, but I bet I'm a better leader than you are.
Beware i said something like that on this post and i got a warning.
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Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — "No, you move
Beware i said something like that on this post and i got a warning.
I got called away and couldn't finish the post up. I've since added to it. If I get a warning, so be it... perhaps I deserve it. It's not my intention to offend anyone. Anyway, this is getting way off topic, so I'll take my leave of this thread now and leave you all to discuss it further.
Most annoying, rude, and arrogant type of person. Plain mean, usually. Very un-like-able.
I see loads of them every day. It's sad. I only started playing on a computer since I was nine. But I heard on the internet, there was A 2 YEAR OLD with iphones! Used them as chew toys!
People's reactions are rather funny to read. Also managing to destroy en entire city without anybody noticing (while people are on) is rather hilarious. Seriously, how do you not realize that half of the buildings are gone? How do you not realize that there is only one building left?
i agree with you i like to grief and troll and its not because i wanna ruin peaples life (well for some peaple i do) im gonna tell u guys the reason a griefer griefs
we like to blow up stuff especially cool and big stuff
if we are playing factions we raid a lot of peaple and get op stuff and also we may find a vault and that is like winning $1000 for us
some peaple may of have griefed us and we want revenge
general hate
its part of life
also if you dont like griefing it may be because you dont like tnt or explosions for ex: i was playing factions i blew up a mountain and since i my friend liked mountains and didnt like tnt he kicked me and put the whole faction agaist me (100 peaple 50 online) and they all attacked me but i raided their vault got super OP stuff and wrecked their base or another time i found a giant island with a city and i started blowing it up and after i blew up half the city i realized "oh the whole faction is online" but since they were making their bunker i destroyed the whole place and they i killed them all with tnt.
P.S also raiding and griefing is a part of factions
It's quite opposite for me actually. See, they attempt to attack me back, but the fact that I took everything from the before hand makes it kind of hard. Also, my factions base is in a massive hole in the ocean all the way down to bedrock with 6 layers of obsidian with crafting tables surrounding the outside layer. Over top of this it is claimed with my 35 faction members, which I am the owner. Also, I could honestly care less if they grief me. It is only a video game, so I don't ever get upset about it. If they raid me, I simply say good game, then plot to kill them again.
Saying that all griefers cry when they themselves get griefed is stereotyping, like saying all blondes are stupid. I grief with style. I plan out everything before hand and leave with everything they own.
exactly we griefers/raiders dont cry if we get raided (which doesnt really happens since sometimes we griefer get together) we either grief them back or say wow nice grief (username)
I have a question, do you grief people who are completely new, and barely have (Maybe) parts of iron armor, or who are pretty close to evenly matched to you?
That's the difference between a jerk and a griefer.
umm no griefers dont care who they grief for ex i dont care if i grief a new guy on the server or a OP guy its basicaly the same thing
I see loads of them every day. It's sad. I only started playing on a computer since I was nine. But I heard on the internet, there was A 2 YEAR OLD with iphones! Used them as chew toys!
It's hard to respond to a comment like that. It's purely illogical to give a 2 year old any thing expensive!
My question here is why do the people who dislike being grief not play in servers which have counter-griefing measures (CoreProtect, WorldEdit, Plot Plugin)?
well.. have you ever heard of a creeper spawn egg? that is THE best tool in griefing history because if you try to place a tnt block in a area that is not yours it will not appear but if you use a creeper egg the creeper will appear and will blow up
that wouldn´t work because noone would go to that server except for griefer and that wouldnt be fun also we griefer like to grief in a lot of servers
Yes, but all you would need would be griefers. If they build things so that others can destroy them, and then they go destroy things others have built for the purpose of being destroyed, everyone's happy!
Yes, but all you would need would be griefers. If they build things so that others can destroy them, and then they go destroy things others have built for the purpose of being destroyed, everyone's happy!
no because its bot that fun destroying other griefers stuff its more fun destroying peaple who aint griefers for ex: my signature is a a white banner with a green creeper face and when i get on a factions server that i play a lot if a griefers sees my signature he wont grief it
well.. have you ever heard of a creeper spawn egg? that is THE best tool in griefing history because if you try to place a tnt block in a area that is not yours it will not appear but if you use a creeper egg the creeper will appear and will blow up
Considering the only way to get a creeper spawn egg requires:
-Creative
-Console commands
Both of which can be regulated, that isn't a valid rebuttal.
no because its bot that fun destroying other griefers stuff its more fun destroying peaple who aint griefers for ex: my signature is a a white banner with a green creeper face and when i get on a factions server that i play a lot if a griefers sees my signature he wont grief it
Then that means that you love taking advantage on people weaker than you......
Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world — "No, you move
no because its bot that fun destroying other griefers stuff its more fun destroying peaple who aint griefers for ex: my signature is a a white banner with a green creeper face and when i get on a factions server that i play a lot if a griefers sees my signature he wont grief it
In that case, there is no way in which I can see what you are doing as moral or right in any way. Shame.
Then that means that you love taking advantage on people weaker than you......
no i dont i raid peaple that have enchanted full diamond armour and also think of it like this and maybe you will think of griefing in another perpestive:
we blow up stuff because its awsome we would prefer to blow up an awsome building than a dirt house we blow it up cause its awsome
If you want to believe that, go ahead, but I bet I'm a better leader than you are... more inclined to get cooperation out of those who follow me voluntarily than through fear. At any rate, this is not the place to be getting into the depths of leadership philosophy.
I stand by my opinion that the destruction stems from a feeling of lack of sufficient control... which is essentially the same as what you've said... they want more control.
Beware i said something like that on this post and i got a warning.
I got called away and couldn't finish the post up. I've since added to it. If I get a warning, so be it... perhaps I deserve it. It's not my intention to offend anyone. Anyway, this is getting way off topic, so I'll take my leave of this thread now and leave you all to discuss it further.
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I see loads of them every day. It's sad. I only started playing on a computer since I was nine. But I heard on the internet, there was A 2 YEAR OLD with iphones! Used them as chew toys!
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i agree with you i like to grief and troll and its not because i wanna ruin peaples life (well for some peaple i do) im gonna tell u guys the reason a griefer griefs
also if you dont like griefing it may be because you dont like tnt or explosions for ex: i was playing factions i blew up a mountain and since i my friend liked mountains and didnt like tnt he kicked me and put the whole faction agaist me (100 peaple 50 online) and they all attacked me but i raided their vault got super OP stuff and wrecked their base or another time i found a giant island with a city and i started blowing it up and after i blew up half the city i realized "oh the whole faction is online" but since they were making their bunker i destroyed the whole place and they i killed them all with tnt.
P.S also raiding and griefing is a part of factions
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
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exactly we griefers/raiders dont cry if we get raided (which doesnt really happens since sometimes we griefer get together) we either grief them back or say wow nice grief (username)
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
I scored 36% on the Minecraft Trivia Quiz. How much do you know about Minecraft?
I will correct you in "most griefers want revenge on PvP master who always troll them and steal" no dude we grief cause its just fun
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
I scored 36% on the Minecraft Trivia Quiz. How much do you know about Minecraft?
umm no griefers dont care who they grief for ex i dont care if i grief a new guy on the server or a OP guy its basicaly the same thing
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
I scored 36% on the Minecraft Trivia Quiz. How much do you know about Minecraft?
It's hard to respond to a comment like that. It's purely illogical to give a 2 year old any thing expensive!
well.. have you ever heard of a creeper spawn egg? that is THE best tool in griefing history because if you try to place a tnt block in a area that is not yours it will not appear but if you use a creeper egg the creeper will appear and will blow up
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
I scored 36% on the Minecraft Trivia Quiz. How much do you know about Minecraft?
Perhaps the answer is to make a server specifically for Griefing?
that wouldn´t work because noone would go to that server except for griefer and that wouldnt be fun also we griefer like to grief in a lot of servers
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
I scored 36% on the Minecraft Trivia Quiz. How much do you know about Minecraft?
Yes, but all you would need would be griefers. If they build things so that others can destroy them, and then they go destroy things others have built for the purpose of being destroyed, everyone's happy!
no because its bot that fun destroying other griefers stuff its more fun destroying peaple who aint griefers for ex: my signature is a a white banner with a green creeper face and when i get on a factions server that i play a lot if a griefers sees my signature he wont grief it
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
I scored 36% on the Minecraft Trivia Quiz. How much do you know about Minecraft?
Considering the only way to get a creeper spawn egg requires:
-Creative
-Console commands
Both of which can be regulated, that isn't a valid rebuttal.
Then that means that you love taking advantage on people weaker than you......
In that case, there is no way in which I can see what you are doing as moral or right in any way. Shame.
no i dont i raid peaple that have enchanted full diamond armour and also think of it like this and maybe you will think of griefing in another perpestive:
we blow up stuff because its awsome we would prefer to blow up an awsome building than a dirt house we blow it up cause its awsome
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
I scored 36% on the Minecraft Trivia Quiz. How much do you know about Minecraft?
in a lot of factions server you can buy creeper spawn eggs
want a custom mob made? ill make almost anything for you at this link http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/discussion/2377442-request-custom-mobs-ill-make-them
I scored 36% on the Minecraft Trivia Quiz. How much do you know about Minecraft?