Griefers: We have all heard of them. Horrible people who seemingly live to destroy other's creations. Demolition, theft, offensive buildings, the methods of griefing are endless. Not even the land is safe, on many servers, vast lava fields surround the edge of the spawn protection. Any villages or other structures fare even worse. Ways around prevention methods are developed almost as fast as they are created.
After being griefed, viewing griefing, and trying to prevent it, I wondered, Why invest half an hour of your own time, taking someone else's creation and completely defacing it? You invested your own time, effort, and resources, just to make sure some unfortunate player doesn't have a place to stay or a chest of items. Why? What could possibly be even remotely entertaining about sitting there and destroying? And what sounds more boring that sitting there and putting the same message into the chat over and over again?
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Unfortunately, people just get a kick out of causing issues for others. There isn't much reasoning behind it but amusement for the abuser. Best way to avoid it, is to avoid situations where people do it the most.
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Resources. If someone built there house/statue/monument/whatever out of something I want and were not smart enough to protect it then I am going to take it. It isn't always just to annoy people.
People's reactions are rather funny to read. Also managing to destroy en entire city without anybody noticing (while people are on) is rather hilarious. Seriously, how do you not realize that half of the buildings are gone? How do you not realize that there is only one building left?
Personally, I would never outright destroy something someone else put a lot of time and effort into -- but I do like messing with people in fun ways, such as building fake walls in their base to hide their chests or something. And actually making someone fall for a TNT trap or drop to their death with a piston trapdoor is very satisfying -- though I take steps to make sure their items aren't lost, such as rigging every TNT block to all detonate simultaneously, or putting hoppers at the bottom of the drop shaft.
I see Greifers as individuals who simply are to lazy to put the effort into the game, so they steal, and are jealous of other peoples work so they destroy it.
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"The only way to do great work is to love what you do" - Steve Jobs
I see Greifers as individuals who simply are to lazy to put the effort into the game, so they steal, and are jealous of other peoples work so they destroy it.
How would destroying something make someone jealous of it? How does stealing mean they are lazy?
It is fun in some cases. If someone is being a jerk and are a know it all, they may deserve it. I only do within reason. It is also funny to see their reactions.
I would guess that the challenge and the thrill of getting away with it are big factors. As well as not having to face any real consequences for their actions.
I guess they mostly do it for the reactions of their victims and threads like this one.
Personally I don't have this drive to destroy other people's stuff and I don't think I'll ever truly unterstand them.
Guess I'm more the builder type.
The best way to fight griefing is to make it utterly futile by frequently saving a backup file to undo the damage.
I've heard there's also a plugin which allows you to rollback a specified area of the map, meaning you can restore just the creations that're damaged while leaving everything else as it is.
I made that reason based on what the other people said. I know people that grief, and they told me that they have no friends and that they grief all day long.
I made that reason based on what the other people said. I know people that grief, and they told me that they have no friends and that they grief all day long.
Anecdotal Evidence Fallacy:
Using a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.
Example:
Jason said that his Grandfather smoked 30 cigarettes a day and lived until 97, so smoking can't be bad for you.
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You are doing the same thing "Jason" is doing in my example, using an anecdotal account as evidence that all griefers have no friends. I could say the inverse (I talked to griefers who say that had friends) and it would hold the same exact weight in the discussion (zilch) as your anecdotal account does.
Because it's fun to pick a target and go after them. Same reason why "trolling" is fun. Same reason why dynamite is fun. Same reason why bullying is fun. The more people you annoy, the more points you earn. The more you destroy, the more people are annoyed.
In Minecraft, it's even a challenge, to a certain degree. You've got people willing to fight you off. By defeating them it annoys them even more.
I played on a server which had grief protection where you could claim an area as yours and I think it expired after 30 days or more. Their rules said if the land wasn't protected then it's fair game to what you do to it. I loved finding houses that weren't protected and I'd take anything useful from the chests and take any of the blocks on their house if I needed or wanted them.
Now my brother on the other hand would not only do what I did but he'd also leave water or lava and put walls or pits in the house or even set the house on fire cause he thought it was funny to think what that person's expression would be when they logged back on (if they ever did).
There was even one person that build a 50 block high netherrack wall all the way around my shop just cause they could I guess. Although it wasn't against server rules it still annoyed me. What annoyed me worse was I asked someone if they'd take it down and they did some blocks then placed all of them on the ground a little ways away which defeated the purpose of them taking down the wall (I feel like it was the same person that put the wall there).
Summary: I mostly think they do it cause it's fun to them and they have a big laugh about it the whole time, although some people do it just as an easy way to get resources.
Griefers: We have all heard of them. Horrible people who seemingly live to destroy other's creations. Demolition, theft, offensive buildings, the methods of griefing are endless. Not even the land is safe, on many servers, vast lava fields surround the edge of the spawn protection. Any villages or other structures fare even worse. Ways around prevention methods are developed almost as fast as they are created.
After being griefed, viewing griefing, and trying to prevent it, I wondered, Why invest half an hour of your own time, taking someone else's creation and completely defacing it? You invested your own time, effort, and resources, just to make sure some unfortunate player doesn't have a place to stay or a chest of items. Why? What could possibly be even remotely entertaining about sitting there and destroying? And what sounds more boring that sitting there and putting the same message into the chat over and over again?
Well, tell me. Why?
Unfortunately, people just get a kick out of causing issues for others. There isn't much reasoning behind it but amusement for the abuser. Best way to avoid it, is to avoid situations where people do it the most.
Resources. If someone built there house/statue/monument/whatever out of something I want and were not smart enough to protect it then I am going to take it. It isn't always just to annoy people.
People's reactions are rather funny to read. Also managing to destroy en entire city without anybody noticing (while people are on) is rather hilarious. Seriously, how do you not realize that half of the buildings are gone? How do you not realize that there is only one building left?
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Personally, I would never outright destroy something someone else put a lot of time and effort into -- but I do like messing with people in fun ways, such as building fake walls in their base to hide their chests or something. And actually making someone fall for a TNT trap or drop to their death with a piston trapdoor is very satisfying -- though I take steps to make sure their items aren't lost, such as rigging every TNT block to all detonate simultaneously, or putting hoppers at the bottom of the drop shaft.
I see Greifers as individuals who simply are to lazy to put the effort into the game, so they steal, and are jealous of other peoples work so they destroy it.
"The only way to do great work is to love what you do" - Steve Jobs
How would destroying something make someone jealous of it? How does stealing mean they are lazy?
It is fun in some cases. If someone is being a jerk and are a know it all, they may deserve it. I only do within reason. It is also funny to see their reactions.
I use to be a huge greifer, thought it was hilarious to see 10 year olds reactions to there house suddenly turning into a crater.
I never usually grief, but you have to admit. Destruction is pretty fun.
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I would guess that the challenge and the thrill of getting away with it are big factors. As well as not having to face any real consequences for their actions.
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Griefers are just lazy people that have no lives and friends that get enjoyment out of destroying other's work.
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I made that reason based on what the other people said. I know people that grief, and they told me that they have no friends and that they grief all day long.
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Check out my website Here!Website is down until further notice.That's odd. When I griefed I did it with my friends.
Praise be to Spode.
Well I don't like to destroy other peoples builds, as it is just mean and destroys possibly HOURS of hard work.
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Check out my website Here!Website is down until further notice.Anecdotal Evidence Fallacy:
Using a personal experience or an isolated example instead of a sound argument or compelling evidence.
Example:
Jason said that his Grandfather smoked 30 cigarettes a day and lived until 97, so smoking can't be bad for you.
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You are doing the same thing "Jason" is doing in my example, using an anecdotal account as evidence that all griefers have no friends. I could say the inverse (I talked to griefers who say that had friends) and it would hold the same exact weight in the discussion (zilch) as your anecdotal account does.
Because it's fun to pick a target and go after them. Same reason why "trolling" is fun. Same reason why dynamite is fun. Same reason why bullying is fun. The more people you annoy, the more points you earn. The more you destroy, the more people are annoyed.
In Minecraft, it's even a challenge, to a certain degree. You've got people willing to fight you off. By defeating them it annoys them even more.
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I played on a server which had grief protection where you could claim an area as yours and I think it expired after 30 days or more. Their rules said if the land wasn't protected then it's fair game to what you do to it. I loved finding houses that weren't protected and I'd take anything useful from the chests and take any of the blocks on their house if I needed or wanted them.
Now my brother on the other hand would not only do what I did but he'd also leave water or lava and put walls or pits in the house or even set the house on fire cause he thought it was funny to think what that person's expression would be when they logged back on (if they ever did).
There was even one person that build a 50 block high netherrack wall all the way around my shop just cause they could I guess. Although it wasn't against server rules it still annoyed me. What annoyed me worse was I asked someone if they'd take it down and they did some blocks then placed all of them on the ground a little ways away which defeated the purpose of them taking down the wall (I feel like it was the same person that put the wall there).
Summary: I mostly think they do it cause it's fun to them and they have a big laugh about it the whole time, although some people do it just as an easy way to get resources.