you can have purchases and or donation goals set up for non-cosmetic things; such that once a purchase or donation goal is reached/ obtained, everyone who is a member of that server gains access to that perk or in your case every member (not a specific group, but all members) gains that currency boost after someone purchases it for the entire server or a group of people reach a donation goal and unlocks that for the entire server. Again I stress the point, ALL MEMBERS of the server must receive the perk/boost if it is not a cosmetic purchase.
It's good to see Mojang are enforcing equality on servers. .... I just hope there's not many (big, at least) server admission payment servers...
Prepare for disappointment. You got to play on big servers for free before because some idiots liked to pay for features. Servers can't charge for those anymore, so they'll be charging for something else instead. IMHO fewer people will pay for cosmetics*. So it will have to be access itself.
People paying for features was what subsidized your freeloading self having access to the server. Without them, you get to pay up or go away. Enjoy!
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* if paying for a feature was dumb, paying for a nametag is even worse. Not as many will be that dumb
Just to clarify what I was saying, All players (aka members) on the server must receive the perk/boost. You can not separate players into different groups that favor the players in a specific group. Basic rule of thumb, if it can cause a change in the game play experience, then it must change the game play experience for everyone who plays on that server.
Just to clarify what I was saying, All players (aka members) on the server must receive the perk/boost. You can not separate players into different groups that favor the players in a specific group. Basic rule of thumb, if it can cause a change in the game play experience, then it must change the game play experience for everyone who plays on that server.
yhe thats what i tought that actualy is probably exactly what im gana do like every player gets an hour bost when a player buys the bost
It's time to revisit the EULA once more!With the recent announcement about changes to the EULA (and in particular, how they will affect multiplayer servers), many questions have arisen. Mojang has looked over numerous discussions by you, the community, and has released a new Q&A announcement, to address some of the most frequently-asked questions to come from the announcement. More many come in the future, but for now, check out these clarifying answers, direct from Mojang!Do you have a question you would like answered about the EULA? Let's discuss it in the comments!
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EXTREMELY FRIENDLY REMINDER OF FRIENDLINESS AND HAPPY-JOY FEELINGSPlease keep all discussion as civil as possible! This is a very hot topic, and we understand that there are very strong feelings about the EULA. That's okay! Open discussion is a GOOD thing! However, please avoid the following:
Name-calling
Encouraging (or claiming to engage in) EULA violations
"Can I charge for access to my server?Yes. How players join a server is up to you. Single entrance fees or subscriptions are both allowed.How often am I allowed to charge players to access my server?You can charge players as regularly as you like. You can even charge for timed access if you think it’s the best way to monetise your server."this is actually a huge mistake now servers can be even more illegit now that payment plans are allowed!!!Because there is no specific guidelines as to how 1 server can charge to play a server we will now see new hell like cell phone companies pull!for
example of payment abuse: they can add hidden fees such as a 200$ fee to cancel your server payment subscription!! now things are really gona get bad!
"Can I charge for access to my server?Yes. How players join a server is up to you. Single entrance fees or subscriptions are both allowed.How often am I allowed to charge players to access my server?You can charge players as regularly as you like. You can even charge for timed access if you think it’s the best way to monetise your server."this is actually a huge mistake now servers can be even more illegit now that payment plans are allowed!!!Because there is no specific guidelines as to how 1 server can charge to play a server we will now see new hell like cell phone companies pull!for example of payment abuse: they can add hidden fees such as a 200$ fee to cancel your server payment subscription!! now things are really gona get bad!
There was never a restriction preventing pay to play on a server its was just not common though because servers had pay to win so they picked pay to win insteed of pay to play.
There was never a restriction preventing pay to play on a server its was just not common though because servers had pay to win so they picked pay to win insteed of pay to play.
but they put this up there encouraging this!! i would rather have pay to win then worry about servers abusing payment plans
but they put this up there encouraging this!! i would rather have pay to win then worry about servers abusing payment plans
Its not necessarily encouragement they just happen to be stating a fact. also just become more awear of the agreements when you sign up for the service there not neciceraly hidden fees it just that its writen in a way most do not percive as a cancellation fee.
also there is no arguing this agreement it has been in place for quite some time now its just now is when there calling attetion to it and there being pretty fair with the time they are permiting befor they start taking up public cases.
Well, now I have to learn how to use packets so I can make something that is visually pleasing to players. So I guess in a way you can say that Mojang is making me get educated?
Guys think about this if you take away payment for servers there still going to have payment methods that mojang can't check and if they can check and shutdown these servers minecraft will start to lose so many members those members will tell there friends not to purchase the game and the game will die servers need donations to survive all mojang cares about is getting realms popular and yes realms costs a larger fee than a normal server to set up and run this is solely for money and has nothing to do with the players or whats fair on non donating players
It is called a cease and desist order, also they would normally send that to your host, or if you're your own host they can report it to local law enforcement and or your ISP (internet service provider). If you don't know what a C&D order is, let me link you a video briefly explaining what one is:
I dont own a server, there is no ''your'' here. Just curious.
I dont own a server, there is no ''your'' here. Just curious.
The your is generalized. but yes i can see how it peaks your curiousity Kataphraktoiuntake there will probably be servers that go under radar for a bit but eventualy they will get them all.
Guys think about this if you take away payment for servers there still going to have payment methods that mojang can't check and if they can check and shutdown these servers minecraft will start to lose so many members those members will tell there friends not to purchase the game and the game will die servers need donations to survive all mojang cares about is getting realms popular and yes realms costs a larger fee than a normal server to set up and run this is solely for money and has nothing to do with the players or whats fair on non donating players
Realms acctualy is not more expensive than the large server hosting going around as well as realms has no plugins or featuers that can be revoked to speak of other than operator status. so as your veiw is creative it is not corret under my understanding of the events that have occurred involving realms and this topic.
One of the things Mojang need to enforce is that all server must list the Eula on the main page of their website.
If Mojang real beings a crackdown on server you bet places like skydoseminecraft and high hypixel will get a free pass also a lot of server I visit are lying to their player base telling them that they are using loopholes to sell items and regional permissions.
I have seen a player scammed out of $700 and a whole server scammed out of $5000 all because these players don’t know about the old and the new Eula.
A server I just quit because the owner said that they were using a loophole to sell creative mode to player. If you donate $5 for a named rank in two days you will get as a gift "creative mode". He knows about the new Eula and old Eula but his players don't know a thing about it.
Right now they are still collecting money and come august 1 they will turn off creative mode for all players who are not staff because they don't want to give it away for free.
I do see and agree with your point, but honestly, when there are pay-to-win servers, I don't think there is any quality difference between me and the donators. I actually feel that it is more fun to be a non-donator because I am always trying to be as good as the donators. A few years ago when I was playing a German City-Plot server called GalaxyCraft, I was as good as the donators because I worked hard. Without the donators encouraging me, I would have stopped playing. I was respected even though I was a non-donator. So you can pretty much rise to the top without paying, so the "Everyone Must Get An Equal Chance" statement is invalid. You always have an equal chance if you work hard. It is the same in life. Even if you aren't born into money, you could still potentially gain equality.
Ah, ok I see where you are coming from. Unfortunately your case is not the same for all servers, if all servers were like that, there may never have even been an issue.
However some servers, such as a few I have played on, offer undeniably op perks. On a faction server take "donor chests" for example. These are chests that noone but the person who payed can get access to, giving that person an unraidable stash. Even this really isn't to big of a deal I guess, because the non-paying player can simply build an "unraidable" base.
The issue is when you have servers charging for things like /fly, armor that is enchanted to ridiculously op values that no normal player can get except by raiding the player with its base (oh wait, they would just stash it in their donor chest) and extra /sethomes. So no, in these cases you cannot in any way gain equality with the player who donates, and there is no limit on how far this inequality could be taken.
That's really my issue with the way things currently are, it causes the richest to always be on top and in some cases becomes less a contest of effort and ingenuity, and more a contest of who spends more money.
On a side note, do you know of any faction servers that do make what you have said possible? (ie, everything you donate for is attainable through effort as well).
The kids stealing credit cards is a freak thing mixed with bad parenting. KEEP YOUR WALLET OUT OF REACH!!!
True, I agree its bad parenting, still, I don't think it is ethical to put kids in such desperate situations (or so the kids think) that they would do this in the first place. While we cannot protect other parents kids from everything, in this case kids that get addicted to servers can become unreasonably desperate. That's why we have TV ratings, to give parents a chance to stop their kid from watching something above their age.
This point is really a debate on weather we should protect other parents kids, or leave that to the parents, and I don't want to get into that here, there are other places for that.
Anymore Counter Arguments? (This is getting kind of fun )
lol, well if a discussion is kept civil (at least ours seems civil to me), I guess this can be the result
Though Mojang probably has a good reason for doing this, I feel that a lot of servers are going to wither away now. Even my own server had this, and now I need to change it just so other players can feel equal. My server's goal is to make everyone equal, but at the same time who would not like a little return for spending their hard-earned money?
Thanks for listening to the users, Mojang, but I feel you made the wrong move.... But at the same time, Mojang had every right to do so. We were distributing copyrighted content without the consent of the creators.
Maybe I'll create custom server software. It seems the correct thing to do. That way, nobody is harmed in the process (Speaking of, nobody was being directly harmed by the old EULA un-enforcement, so I have mixed feelings about the subject.)
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Prepare for disappointment. You got to play on big servers for free before because some idiots liked to pay for features. Servers can't charge for those anymore, so they'll be charging for something else instead. IMHO fewer people will pay for cosmetics*. So it will have to be access itself.
People paying for features was what subsidized your freeloading self having access to the server. Without them, you get to pay up or go away. Enjoy!
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* if paying for a feature was dumb, paying for a nametag is even worse. Not as many will be that dumb
Guild Wars 2's item mall begs to differ, friend. Everywhere I go I see people paying for cosmetic upgrades with real money instead of the gold/gems currency exchange, just because they love the game and want to see more content added to it. So if a player on a server really does love the server they play on, they'll donate just to see it stick around. If you donate for any other reason you're doing it wrong, and for the wrong reasons.
The reason that a cap wouldn't work is that they could simply make the feature stack. And then you end up with something called power creep where people would need spend more and more money in order to "win".
As for reserving the rights to just close down a server , in theory that would be possible but practically not. If server A was being abusive mojang could have them shut down. But server A could sue Mojang and possible win because there is no reason defined in the EULA for them to shut down server A.
If it said in the EULA that Mojang could bring down a server at the bat of an eye, I don't think anybody could complain about that.
There is a server called Lava Craft
It has 'donator ranks' that you can buy and get cool perks.
But also the top 3 monthly voters get a free $25 donator rank
Does this still violate the EULA? Because anyone can get ranks for free BUT it is very hard to do...
Thank you for confirming my thoughts.
Prepare for disappointment. You got to play on big servers for free before because some idiots liked to pay for features. Servers can't charge for those anymore, so they'll be charging for something else instead. IMHO fewer people will pay for cosmetics*. So it will have to be access itself.
People paying for features was what subsidized your freeloading self having access to the server. Without them, you get to pay up or go away. Enjoy!
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* if paying for a feature was dumb, paying for a nametag is even worse. Not as many will be that dumb
yhe thats what i tought that actualy is probably exactly what im gana do like every player gets an hour bost when a player buys the bost
example of payment abuse: they can add hidden fees such as a 200$ fee to cancel your server payment subscription!! now things are really gona get bad!
There was never a restriction preventing pay to play on a server its was just not common though because servers had pay to win so they picked pay to win insteed of pay to play.
Its not necessarily encouragement they just happen to be stating a fact. also just become more awear of the agreements when you sign up for the service there not neciceraly hidden fees it just that its writen in a way most do not percive as a cancellation fee.
also there is no arguing this agreement it has been in place for quite some time now its just now is when there calling attetion to it and there being pretty fair with the time they are permiting befor they start taking up public cases.
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I dont own a server, there is no ''your'' here. Just curious.
The your is generalized. but yes i can see how it peaks your curiousity Kataphraktoiuntake there will probably be servers that go under radar for a bit but eventualy they will get them all.
Realms acctualy is not more expensive than the large server hosting going around as well as realms has no plugins or featuers that can be revoked to speak of other than operator status. so as your veiw is creative it is not corret under my understanding of the events that have occurred involving realms and this topic.
If Mojang real beings a crackdown on server you bet places like skydoseminecraft and high hypixel will get a free pass also a lot of server I visit are lying to their player base telling them that they are using loopholes to sell items and regional permissions.
I have seen a player scammed out of $700 and a whole server scammed out of $5000 all because these players don’t know about the old and the new Eula.
A server I just quit because the owner said that they were using a loophole to sell creative mode to player. If you donate $5 for a named rank in two days you will get as a gift "creative mode". He knows about the new Eula and old Eula but his players don't know a thing about it.
Right now they are still collecting money and come august 1 they will turn off creative mode for all players who are not staff because they don't want to give it away for free.
Ah, ok I see where you are coming from. Unfortunately your case is not the same for all servers, if all servers were like that, there may never have even been an issue.
However some servers, such as a few I have played on, offer undeniably op perks. On a faction server take "donor chests" for example. These are chests that noone but the person who payed can get access to, giving that person an unraidable stash. Even this really isn't to big of a deal I guess, because the non-paying player can simply build an "unraidable" base.
The issue is when you have servers charging for things like /fly, armor that is enchanted to ridiculously op values that no normal player can get except by raiding the player with its base (oh wait, they would just stash it in their donor chest) and extra /sethomes. So no, in these cases you cannot in any way gain equality with the player who donates, and there is no limit on how far this inequality could be taken.
That's really my issue with the way things currently are, it causes the richest to always be on top and in some cases becomes less a contest of effort and ingenuity, and more a contest of who spends more money.
On a side note, do you know of any faction servers that do make what you have said possible? (ie, everything you donate for is attainable through effort as well).
True, I agree its bad parenting, still, I don't think it is ethical to put kids in such desperate situations (or so the kids think) that they would do this in the first place. While we cannot protect other parents kids from everything, in this case kids that get addicted to servers can become unreasonably desperate. That's why we have TV ratings, to give parents a chance to stop their kid from watching something above their age.
This point is really a debate on weather we should protect other parents kids, or leave that to the parents, and I don't want to get into that here, there are other places for that.
lol, well if a discussion is kept civil (at least ours seems civil to me), I guess this can be the result
Thanks for listening to the users, Mojang, but I feel you made the wrong move.... But at the same time, Mojang had every right to do so. We were distributing copyrighted content without the consent of the creators.
Maybe I'll create custom server software. It seems the correct thing to do. That way, nobody is harmed in the process (Speaking of, nobody was being directly harmed by the old EULA un-enforcement, so I have mixed feelings about the subject.)
Guild Wars 2's item mall begs to differ, friend. Everywhere I go I see people paying for cosmetic upgrades with real money instead of the gold/gems currency exchange, just because they love the game and want to see more content added to it. So if a player on a server really does love the server they play on, they'll donate just to see it stick around. If you donate for any other reason you're doing it wrong, and for the wrong reasons.
There is a server called Lava Craft
It has 'donator ranks' that you can buy and get cool perks.
But also the top 3 monthly voters get a free $25 donator rank
Does this still violate the EULA? Because anyone can get ranks for free BUT it is very hard to do...