I hate to bump this, because of how repetitive this subject is.
I just wanted to say that if this statement is true:
"I see no other topic/threads that are Even close to such a topic"
Your doin' it wrong.
you said its true then you say I'm doing it wrong, make up your mind :tongue.gif:
you made no sense and counterpointed your self.
I Looked for a topic that has this as a discussion in a manner by people who actually Knows stuff about servers/computers, I Couldn't find a single Reasonable and well written thread about this matter, so I created it, as a professional Software IT and one who has experience with servers, I figured it'd be best if I started a thread for discussion. its hard to read threads where people go off on the long boat and have no clue what they are talking about , but still have points, but they don't understand...
Vs people who do know and make very strong points. but thanks for the free bump :smile.gif:
I said IF that statement is true. Obviously among other things, reading comprehension isn't a strong suite for you.
No need to be rude, I simply mis read what you said, and For that I will say I am sorry
But yes I did look around before posting this. There is no need for snide remarks. we are all in the same boat.
There's a lot of full time professional techs (We go through several different companies) at my work who claim they know everything. Although they can't spell "sandwitch" right on their lunch order. So I ate it to make sure they are safely fixing my broken **** which they broke. Thank you tech support. Enjoy your extra time off to stay away from my computers.
Speaking of spelling wrong, You your self spelt it wrong :tongue.gif:
its sandwich not sandwitch :tongue.gif:
secondly, I know many wonderful Techs who can't spell worth damn because they program more then they spell,
One of the best coders I know who is my room-mate and runs all of our home servers/networking and is my hardware tech for my business, is legally blind and can't spell to well, but his Scripts/Coding ability's make up for his lack of spelling, its amazing what he can do with Code.
Almost everyone I know who is a Tech, never really spells well, so its a moot point, Even the guys from geek squad spell like crap LOL. I Spell like crap, but at least I don't talk like u r grat hw r u tday? god that crap annoys me. At least type You! Heh..
Anycase this is off topic, back onto topic you lazy Peons!
Seriously? Are you all arguing about a "Work in Progress" game? How about, he doesnt give you a game to play while hes making it, and instead, made it so that you had to wait for him to finish. Quit bitching, and being self-centered, grow up, and move on.
PS: I am sorry to those who are also trying to intervene, and be respectful, but with these 300 + character posts, I dont want to waste my time, so consider this message to NOT apply to you cool people :smile.gif:
To the guy who compared Blizz to minecraft, WOW, wtf there is a biiiig difference, and the weekly down time? server maintenance and they warn you that it's going to go down LOL. Bugs? They don't have many bugs and if they do have bugs they get fixed asap, and have extensive testing before the patches go live. That is all.
Seriously? Are you all arguing about a "Work in Progress" game? How about, he doesnt give you a game to play while hes making it, and instead, made it so that you had to wait for him to finish. Quit bitching, and being self-centered, grow up, and move on.
PS: I am sorry to those who are also trying to intervene, and be respectful, but with these 300 + character posts, I dont want to waste my time, so consider this message to NOT apply to you cool people :smile.gif:
Once again, we are not arguing about a game, we are discussing the Authentication server, unless you know what this is, this thread is not for you, quit saying Game, this discussion has nothing to do with the game, but the Server!
No one is really Arguing, Most of this thread has been nothing but Mature constructive Discussions about the problems at hand.
So unless you have something to Contribute please go play in another thread.
The thing is the guy has made over 20million dollars, a Game in Beta should be somewhat stable, not downtime every single second/day...
I, for one, am sure Notch cares a great deal about this game (seeing as it IS his brainchild) but doesn't know how / where to go with it.. Main reason why he should embrace the modding community, instead of being "ok" with it but nothing more.
In other words: I hope his talks with some of those modders go well tomorrow, and that it puts minecraft back on the right track.
PS: Why settle for less, when you can get more (@JetLinerX)
"Making the world pay millions for his unfinished..."
I stopped reading there. The guy that wrote this is an ignorant moron. He never forced people to buy it, nor does he hide the fact that it is unfinished.
And now, going entirely against character, I bring the conversation away from flaming!
I think the big question here is:
Has anyone reverse-engineered the Authentication Server protocol? Given that people have written their own Minecraft servers and at least one of the clones was (for a while) wire-compatible, I'm guessing that is has been done. If this is the case, you'd probably be able to run your own and mod your own server to point to it.
It's not the real deal, granted, but that's unlikely to happen for the reasons given in the thread (piracy, concerns about phishing, etc). Notch won't give it to you, but anyone with sufficient networking knowledge could create it.
Hopefully the whole issue will become moot with the migration to the Amazon cloud anyway :smile.gif:
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This forum ticked me off so much I went to random.org and set my password to something I'll never be able to remember, then switched my password reset to a throwaway.
Minecraft is infinitely fun even on singleplayer. Plus, isnt there a way to move files between the two modes? [Please correct me if I'm wrong] But can't you just develop your files from multiplayer that way? [Also, if that isn't possible, don't you think it'd be a neat idea? ]
Really? Do you guys continue to get all mad about why the game is unstable or broken, Jesus Christ, you are an idiot. There is a reason why it is called beta. There is and WAS a reason it was called ALPHA, its not a full game! It never will be (Guessing) And it never should! He could lol scam us and you couldn't do ANYTHING about it. WE ARE TESTING, this is WHY it is bought! We are trying out a great fun beta! Errors and bugs and all these issues are supposed to happen! Stop whining and enjoy what is given to you. Minecraft is not a full buy-in-stores minor bugs. It is a game that is being developed, it is a game that is building upon the community that is fun. Who CARES if there is errors! Odds are, due to the MASS amount of people that have bought the game, they will be fixed! Sit back, stop getting your panties in a fuss and learn to be patient. Otherwise, you can make your own game, GL HF.
Mira, you are correct. I was being a jerk about it and I apologize.
I've just seen a lot of complaining on the subject and tend to let the multiple threads get under my skin.
Thank you kindly, at least some of us are able to shake each others hands at the end of the day, and this is what makes a good Community
The biggest thing that concerns me and I keep saying it and I'll say it again is we paid for this... That's money out of our Budgets and so fourth.. And we can't use what we paid for, I Understand what it means to design things, I have designed and created many things, but No matter how big my projects got, if I had someone paying me, They could use it, no matter what the cost was, That's what it meant to me to have people who enjoyed Our stuff.
and if the person above who quoted me trying to nag me into a rant, "We don't even know if we can finish the product"
he sounded like a member of the team and if he is, his statement Really concerns me. We paid for the reservation of a game, if they don't release a stable "none beta" We all spent 20+Dollars for nothing.. to some people 20 dollars may not seem like much, but when you add that up and you can count million dollars out of the fans who are not getting anything in return besides a half working product. Its rather sad and disappointing.
*Offers to shake your hand* Let us remain on topic instead of ageist each other.
...Pre reservation of a game...
Its really Simple, Just as any game company
1) I believe you are talking about the game also :smile.gif:
2) Plenty of immaturity around, read. 50% of this is non-constructive too.
3) Who do you think you are to tell me to leave?
Not sure what you been reading, but a good chunk of this thread has been mature before people like you showed up
No, we are talking about a server, a Server is not "A GAME" a Server is hardware and software that allows you to run a game on it/Or other things such as a database (Etc), but it is not a GAME, please please please look it up..... I'm really tired of explaining,
Considering your doing nothing but providing flaming/and not contributing to the thread, I have asked you nicely to leave, your welcome to make your self look more arrogant and unintelligent by posting Crap you have no idea about, be my guest, I'll just filter your name out of the thread so I don't have to see it.
Or you could try to Contribute to the discussion at hand about the issues, or has such Courtesy's lost me daring the ages?
@Mira
You know, I am not sure where I am being immature, but I will leave you feeling all high and mighty as you wish. I dont feel your "conversation" about these "servers" is really going anywhere except for a giant bitching session, which, imagine this, doesnt usually get anything done. Maybe thats just me.
Thanks for your friendly introduction, now that I know about your un-appealing personality/character, I will be sure to black list your name for my account. They say first impressions are everything, try to make a good one next time :wink.gif:
No need to be rude, I simply mis read what you said, and For that I will say I am sorry
But yes I did look around before posting this. There is no need for snide remarks. we are all in the same boat.
~Mira.
http://spiritcraft.enjin.com/
Speaking of spelling wrong, You your self spelt it wrong :tongue.gif:
its sandwich not sandwitch :tongue.gif:
secondly, I know many wonderful Techs who can't spell worth damn because they program more then they spell,
One of the best coders I know who is my room-mate and runs all of our home servers/networking and is my hardware tech for my business, is legally blind and can't spell to well, but his Scripts/Coding ability's make up for his lack of spelling, its amazing what he can do with Code.
Almost everyone I know who is a Tech, never really spells well, so its a moot point, Even the guys from geek squad spell like crap LOL. I Spell like crap, but at least I don't talk like u r grat hw r u tday? god that crap annoys me. At least type You! Heh..
Anycase this is off topic, back onto topic you lazy Peons!
http://spiritcraft.enjin.com/
PS: I am sorry to those who are also trying to intervene, and be respectful, but with these 300 + character posts, I dont want to waste my time, so consider this message to NOT apply to you cool people :smile.gif:
If Notch is making SOO much money like he is now, whats his incentive to finish it? Hes got enough to retire early...
Once again, we are not arguing about a game, we are discussing the Authentication server, unless you know what this is, this thread is not for you, quit saying Game, this discussion has nothing to do with the game, but the Server!
No one is really Arguing, Most of this thread has been nothing but Mature constructive Discussions about the problems at hand.
So unless you have something to Contribute please go play in another thread.
The thing is the guy has made over 20million dollars, a Game in Beta should be somewhat stable, not downtime every single second/day...
The Problem is the Server. thats what this topic is all about.. http://compnetworking.about.com/od/basi ... ervers.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&clie ... d=0CBMQkAE
Since people do not seem to understand the Differences.
so once again, this is a discussion about the Server, not the game..
~Mira.
http://spiritcraft.enjin.com/
In other words: I hope his talks with some of those modders go well tomorrow, and that it puts minecraft back on the right track.
PS: Why settle for less, when you can get more (@JetLinerX)
...Pre reservation of a game...
Its really Simple, Just as any game company
1) I believe you are talking about the game also :smile.gif:
2) Plenty of immaturity around, read. 50% of this is non-constructive too.
3) Who do you think you are to tell me to leave?
I stopped reading there. The guy that wrote this is an ignorant moron. He never forced people to buy it, nor does he hide the fact that it is unfinished.
MineScience - viewtopic.php?f=25&t=166560
Dragonator - viewtopic.php?f=25&t=141803
Sand Skiffs - viewtopic.php?f=25&t=233346
I think the big question here is:
Has anyone reverse-engineered the Authentication Server protocol? Given that people have written their own Minecraft servers and at least one of the clones was (for a while) wire-compatible, I'm guessing that is has been done. If this is the case, you'd probably be able to run your own and mod your own server to point to it.
It's not the real deal, granted, but that's unlikely to happen for the reasons given in the thread (piracy, concerns about phishing, etc). Notch won't give it to you, but anyone with sufficient networking knowledge could create it.
Hopefully the whole issue will become moot with the migration to the Amazon cloud anyway :smile.gif:
I've just seen a lot of complaining on the subject and tend to let the multiple threads get under my skin.
Thank you kindly, at least some of us are able to shake each others hands at the end of the day, and this is what makes a good Community
The biggest thing that concerns me and I keep saying it and I'll say it again is we paid for this... That's money out of our Budgets and so fourth.. And we can't use what we paid for, I Understand what it means to design things, I have designed and created many things, but No matter how big my projects got, if I had someone paying me, They could use it, no matter what the cost was, That's what it meant to me to have people who enjoyed Our stuff.
and if the person above who quoted me trying to nag me into a rant, "We don't even know if we can finish the product"
he sounded like a member of the team and if he is, his statement Really concerns me. We paid for the reservation of a game, if they don't release a stable "none beta" We all spent 20+Dollars for nothing.. to some people 20 dollars may not seem like much, but when you add that up and you can count million dollars out of the fans who are not getting anything in return besides a half working product. Its rather sad and disappointing.
*Offers to shake your hand* Let us remain on topic instead of ageist each other.
~Mira.
http://spiritcraft.enjin.com/
Not sure what you been reading, but a good chunk of this thread has been mature before people like you showed up
No, we are talking about a server, a Server is not "A GAME" a Server is hardware and software that allows you to run a game on it/Or other things such as a database (Etc), but it is not a GAME, please please please look it up..... I'm really tired of explaining,
Considering your doing nothing but providing flaming/and not contributing to the thread, I have asked you nicely to leave, your welcome to make your self look more arrogant and unintelligent by posting Crap you have no idea about, be my guest, I'll just filter your name out of the thread so I don't have to see it.
Or you could try to Contribute to the discussion at hand about the issues, or has such Courtesy's lost me daring the ages?
~Mira.
http://spiritcraft.enjin.com/
You know, I am not sure where I am being immature, but I will leave you feeling all high and mighty as you wish. I dont feel your "conversation" about these "servers" is really going anywhere except for a giant bitching session, which, imagine this, doesnt usually get anything done. Maybe thats just me.
Thanks for your friendly introduction, now that I know about your un-appealing personality/character, I will be sure to black list your name for my account. They say first impressions are everything, try to make a good one next time :wink.gif:
Good day :smile.gif:
its been having issues for the past week, and its been down all day. since last night +
Why I created this thread.
Thank you for being another person willing to say its not just us.
~Mira. Your correct its having problems "again"
http://spiritcraft.enjin.com/