Just wondering if Minecraft Xbox One servers have to be compliant with the EULA. For example, if someone donates to the server, can I give them diamonds?
As I understand it, as far as consoles go, there are no "servers". People are using their consoles to host multiplayer games and using the term "servers", but there's no 3rd party, outside "servers" as you may be thinking of them. In other words, every time you read "server" think "console".
There's no way to 'charge money' to another person over Live. (Xbox's multiplayer feature is 'free'). So the EULA doesn't come into play. But if you want to give someone (ie, the host) diamonds, be my guest.
Now, true 'servers' have been hinted that they might come to the consoles (either xbox, ps, or both), but that's just rumors I've heard.... and won't happen anytime soon.
As I understand it, as far as consoles go, there are no "servers". People are using their consoles to host multiplayer games and using the term "servers", but there's no 3rd party, outside "servers" as you may be thinking of them. In other words, every time you read "server" think "console".
There's no way to 'charge money' to another person over Live. (Xbox's multiplayer feature is 'free'). So the EULA doesn't come into play. But if you want to give someone (ie, the host) diamonds, be my guest.
Now, true 'servers' have been hinted that they might come to the consoles (either xbox, ps, or both), but that's just rumors I've heard.... and won't happen anytime soon.
When you say "be my guest," are you saying that with authority as if you are from Mojang or are you just using it as a phrase? Because with 2000+ forum posts it's believable. Also, would you do it if you were in my situation and how sure are you on this?
Would I do it? Probably not, because I feel that once online, it's not the host's world anymore- it's everyone's who contributes to that world. If you want to 'reward' the host for providing the world for you, that's up to you. He just can't ask or require you to pay him money, and you should never pay him any.
Ah, that little detail changes things- but not my responses.
If you want to charge people diamonds to join your world, I guess you could. But something to think about is with all the 'free' servers out there, why would anyone "pay" (or "donate") diamonds to join yours? Don't be surprised if you get a lot of "Don't think so!" (or worse) and bad ratings.
Just saying....
I think you guys have it backwards. He is asking if he can give out diamonds for monetary donations, not charge people diamonds for being in his world. Although I believe the EULA is only for PC, I don't think this is something that I'd recommend
You may be right!
If he'd have said "For example, if someone donates to themy server, can I give them diamonds?", there would've been less confusion.
* Whether he gives diamonds, or whatever, to a player or not (regardless of reason) is irrelevant.
* How is the player suppose to know that he can send a "donation" (or whatever you want to call it) in the first place? Since you can't do that over Live, is there a sign at the spawn point that says "If you want to donate to my server, mail a check to....."? (A definite no-no, BTW.)
* An important point of the EULA is that money can't change hands. It's that simple. As I read it, you can't ask for, nor accept, 'donations' or any other kind monetary payment.
Anyway, don't ask us. Ask 4J or Mojang directly. But I'm pretty sure of their answer.
I think you guys have it backwards. He is asking if he can give out diamonds for monetary donations, not charge people diamonds for being in his world. Although I believe the EULA is only for PC, I don't think this is something that I'd recommend
This. Why would someone donate diamonds to a server where I can just creative mode them in? I thought it was obvious I meant that if someone donates to my server, I would give them diamonds.
You may be right!
If he'd have said "For example, if someone donates to themy server, can I give them diamonds?", there would've been less confusion.
* Whether he gives diamonds, or whatever, to a player or not (regardless of reason) is irrelevant.
* How is the player suppose to know that he can send a "donation" (or whatever you want to call it) in the first place? Since you can't do that over Live, is there a sign at the spawn point that says "If you want to donate to my server, mail a check to....."? (A definite no-no, BTW.)
* An important point of the EULA is that money can't change hands. It's that simple. As I read it, you can't ask for, nor accept, 'donations' or any other kind monetary payment.
Anyway, don't ask us. Ask 4J or Mojang directly. But I'm pretty sure of their answer.
I have a clan website that accepts donations through Paypal. I would put the link on a sign on the server. And money can change hands. You are definitely allowed to ask for donations for your Minecraft server. Maybe I know more than the people I'm asking.
BUT, you have to pay taxes on those donations (it's 'income'), and doesn't PayPal have their own rules that you have to comply with, like concerns from those under 16?
BUT, you have to pay taxes on those donations (it's 'income'), and doesn't PayPal have their own rules that you have to comply with, like concerns from those under 16?
I thought others would know more than me. I asked this in the One forum because it involves the Xbox One. Donations are not income, they are donations. I have never heard of a charity that had to pay taxes on their donations. I don't think you can have a Paypal account under 16 anyways so you would just be using your parents. (I am not under 16 by the way).
I thought others would know more than me. I asked this in the One forum because it involves the Xbox One. Donations are not income, they are donations. I have never heard of a charity that had to pay taxes on their donations. I don't think you can have a Paypal account under 16 anyways so you would just be using your parents. (I am not under 16 by the way).
The thing is you are not a charity. You are correct that charities recognized by the government don't have to pay taxes, but donations you take are not for charity, and considered income. I don't think there is an issue with age, but running it officially and as a business could be
The thing is you are not a charity. You are correct that charities recognized by the government don't have to pay taxes, but donations you take are not for charity, and considered income. I don't think there is an issue with age, but running it officially and as a business could be
So Twitch streamers have to pay taxes on their donations?
So Twitch streamers have to pay taxes on their donations?
To answer this question, yes streamers legally have to pay taxes on donations, unless they are a recognized non-profit. Just because the word donation is used, does not make it tax free. It is recognized as income, and should be treated as such
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I think you guys have it backwards. He is asking if he can give out diamonds for monetary donations, not charge people diamonds for being in his world. Although I believe the EULA is only for PC, I don't think this is something that I'd recommend
Doesn't matter what version or platform, ALL servers must follow the EULA
There's no way to 'charge money' to another person over Live. (Xbox's multiplayer feature is 'free'). So the EULA doesn't come into play. But if you want to give someone (ie, the host) diamonds, be my guest.
Now, true 'servers' have been hinted that they might come to the consoles (either xbox, ps, or both), but that's just rumors I've heard.... and won't happen anytime soon.
When you say "be my guest," are you saying that with authority as if you are from Mojang or are you just using it as a phrase? Because with 2000+ forum posts it's believable. Also, would you do it if you were in my situation and how sure are you on this?
You can read the EULA yourself: https://account.mojang.com/documents/minecraft_eula See "One Major Rule".
Digital icons made of pixels isn't actually "money", so I'm 95% sure on this.
Would I do it? Probably not, because I feel that once online, it's not the host's world anymore- it's everyone's who contributes to that world. If you want to 'reward' the host for providing the world for you, that's up to you. He just can't ask or require you to pay him money, and you should never pay him any.
If you want to charge people diamonds to join your world, I guess you could. But something to think about is with all the 'free' servers out there, why would anyone "pay" (or "donate") diamonds to join yours? Don't be surprised if you get a lot of "Don't think so!" (or worse) and bad ratings.
Just saying....
If he'd have said "For example, if someone donates to
themy server, can I give them diamonds?", there would've been less confusion.* Whether he gives diamonds, or whatever, to a player or not (regardless of reason) is irrelevant.
* How is the player suppose to know that he can send a "donation" (or whatever you want to call it) in the first place? Since you can't do that over Live, is there a sign at the spawn point that says "If you want to donate to my server, mail a check to....."? (A definite no-no, BTW.)
* An important point of the EULA is that money can't change hands. It's that simple. As I read it, you can't ask for, nor accept, 'donations' or any other kind monetary payment.
Anyway, don't ask us. Ask 4J or Mojang directly. But I'm pretty sure of their answer.
This. Why would someone donate diamonds to a server where I can just creative mode them in? I thought it was obvious I meant that if someone donates to my server, I would give them diamonds.
I have a clan website that accepts donations through Paypal. I would put the link on a sign on the server. And money can change hands. You are definitely allowed to ask for donations for your Minecraft server. Maybe I know more than the people I'm asking.
So why'd you ask?
However, you did ask this in the One forum.
I know there's plugins available to accept 'donations' (such as Bukkit's), but they're only for the PC (consoles don't do plugins).
There's even a thread about the recent changes in the EULA:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/support/server-support/server-administration/1909427-server-donations-legal
BUT, you have to pay taxes on those donations (it's 'income'), and doesn't PayPal have their own rules that you have to comply with, like concerns from those under 16?
I thought others would know more than me. I asked this in the One forum because it involves the Xbox One. Donations are not income, they are donations. I have never heard of a charity that had to pay taxes on their donations. I don't think you can have a Paypal account under 16 anyways so you would just be using your parents. (I am not under 16 by the way).
The thing is you are not a charity. You are correct that charities recognized by the government don't have to pay taxes, but donations you take are not for charity, and considered income. I don't think there is an issue with age, but running it officially and as a business could be
So Twitch streamers have to pay taxes on their donations?
Try looking at this: http://askville.amazon.com/donations-website-pay-taxes/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=56830388
Bottom Line: if you have legal or tax questions- get a lawyer or CPA.
Oh okay thanks.
To answer this question, yes streamers legally have to pay taxes on donations, unless they are a recognized non-profit. Just because the word donation is used, does not make it tax free. It is recognized as income, and should be treated as such
I am one of those people with "Moderator" by my name, and I want to reinforce what Geneo said: If you need legal or tax advice, the place to get it is from a professional -- not a gamer in the Minecraft Forums. We're no more (and probably a lot less) capable of giving you valid advice on those subjects than a lawyer would be to tell you how to fix a wonky redstone build.
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Doesn't matter what version or platform, ALL servers must follow the EULA
Source? And technically it's not a server, it's a multiplayer world.