Yes, but you know that if you chase them and back down they have a chance to come close right? Also Ghasts can't blow up cobblestone or nether brick.
I guess so, but then they will have shot tons of fireballs by the time you do so, and you might fall into a lava ocean because of all those explosions, depending on where you are (happened to me several times), and considering how much fire those things put in each explosion, you might fall on fire and burn yourself, or just accidentally step in one pile of fire with a tiny misclick.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
I guess so, but then they will have shot tons of fireballs by the time you do so, and you might fall into a lava ocean because of all those explosions, depending on where you are, and considering how much fire those things put in each explosion, you might fall on fire and burn yourself, or just accidentally step in one pile of fire with a tiny misclick.
Normally I would say this is extremely unlikely, but...
I remember playing Minecraft: Xbox 360 edition for the first time.
I made a Nether portal, and entered. When I spawned, I was on a thin layer of Netherrack, and was assaulted by 2 Ghasts.
I did not have fun.
Anyways, to make this actually related:
Flying is pretty OP in my opinion, almost* no matter how you put it. So even adding a few more items to make it difficult to obtain isn't that much balance.
Sure it was hard to get, but with perseverance (Don't forget those redstone-addicts that love to farm literally every aspect of the game) you essentially become OP, even for a short amount of time, and as the enchanted golden apple proved; not balanced.
No support.
*Almost as in I'm waiting for someone to actually blow my mind with a flying suggestion that's balanced, and doesn't require a machine such as blimps....
I guess so, but then they will have shot tons of fireballs by the time you do so, and you might fall into a lava ocean because of all those explosions, -Or you can just make a platform/box of cobblestone around you- depending on where you are (happened to me several times), and considering how much fire those things put in each explosion, you might fall on fire and burn yourself, or just accidentally step in one pile of fire with a tiny misclick. -Running through fire with armor on will often make it last only for a split second. And considering you go to the nether prepared, it will do that most of the times.
Or you can just make a platform/box of cobblestone around you[/b]
Considering how fast ghasts will notice you before you try to kill them... ain't nobody got time fo' dat, ain't nobody got time, ain't nobody got time, ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
Running through fire with armor on will often make it last only for a split second. And considering you go to the nether
prepared, it will do that most of the times.[/b]
I guess it will be a bit longer, because the fire charges will put out lots of fire, therefore making it easier to walk into fire... again, even within a 4x4 area. (P.S., how do you know that I generally go prepared?)
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This flight potion is basically a mix of a speed potion and a jump potion. Also, the recipe to make this potion is ridiculous. No potion have I ever heard of needed another potion to make this new potion. If you ask me, why not make all potions like that? This potion has to be made from raw materials, materials that are used for brewing potions.
Flying in Singleplayer Minecraft is considered OP because of it's ease in taking a player to different areas quicker and faster than the usual land or sea transportation. While this has a limit, and a very short one. A Player could use more than one potion to stay aerial for the amount of time they want. This would also make PvP a lot more irritating if one has this effect and is constantly avoiding opponents.
First of all, I find it hard to believe you haven't heard of any of the negative potions, as they are made using a positive potion with a fermented spider eye. Also, the point of the recipe was to avoid adding new items (A bat eye which could be combined with a ghast tear for another item), and there aren't many end-game materials which are usable for potions, so I suggested to combined a tear with a speed potion to keep the tear cost.
Now for the power of this, I had suggested earlier to change it into a temporary float mid-air similarly to Yoshi's double jump in most Mario games, which would give you extra altitude and time in the air. It wouldn't be quite the same as speed and jump potions together, as this makes you stay in mid-air and not jump higher.
Flying is pretty OP in my opinion, almost* no matter how you put it. So even adding a few more items to make it difficult to obtain isn't that much balance.
Sure it was hard to get, but with perseverance (Don't forget those redstone-addicts that love to farm literally every aspect of the game) you essentially become OP, even for a short amount of time, and as the enchanted golden apple proved; not balanced.
Redstone addicts are the kind of people that generally like to spend redstone on fancy machinery, not potions. And no, the golden apple is actually pretty balanced, if not, maybe a little underpowered for the 72 gold and an apple it costs. And you can't do so much in such short time.
No support.
*Almost as in I'm waiting for someone to actually blow my mind with a flying suggestion that's balanced, and doesn't require a machine such as blimps....
What do you have against it requiring a vehicle of any sort?
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Redstone addicts are the kind of people that generally like to spend redstone on fancy machinery, not potions. And no, the golden apple is actually pretty balanced, if not, maybe a little underpowered for the 72 gold and an apple it costs. And you can't do so much in such short time.
I never mentioned potions, I mentioned that they farm literally everything, so that would include this, plus, I need a better term...
The golden apple isn't nearly as rare as it used to be. Now all you have to do is raid an ocean monument, only one monument to get your apple.
They are fairly common, too. It isn't balanced imo, but that's mostly because of how servers are. "donate" to them for OP gear.
Not counting that, you can annihilate an entire crowd with just one. It's just a matter of conserving it.
I never mentioned potions, I mentioned that they farm literally everything, so that would include this, plus, I need a better term...
Which implied that you mean potions as well, though I am still kinda unsure if redstoners (I think that was the term you were looking for) spend much redstone on potions.
The golden apple isn't nearly as rare as it used to be. Now all you have to do is raid an ocean monument, only one monument to get your apple.
It may not be rare, but you will still need some good protection (iron, maybe even diamond) to save yourself from all those guardians + a few good water breathing potions + several boats, all together being nearly as expensive as the enchanted golden apple.
Not counting that, you can annihilate an entire crowd with just one. It's just a matter of conserving it.
Maybe a (somewhat) small crowd, when considering its short-ish effects.
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Which implied that you mean potions as well, though I am still kinda unsure if redstoners (I think that was the term you were looking for) spend much redstone on potions.
It may not be rare, but you will still need some good protection (iron, maybe even diamond) to save yourself from all those guardians + a few good water breathing potions + several boats, all together being nearly as expensive as the enchanted golden apple.
Maybe a (somewhat) small crowd, when considering its short-ish effects.
No, I mean farming in general. Like farming Ghasts. People go to crazy limits just to farm materials, you'd be surprised. I don't get why. It's much easier to just kill it yourself...
You can also go with invisibility, and water breathing potions. Oh and milk, and since you can brew three of each potion at a time... Yeah..
Boats are pretty easy to get, too. The only issue might be the carrot, unless you find a village, or are lucky.
Even if you decided to get the armor, it's going to last you a while, not just one monument, so getting one set of diamond/iron armor can = multiple golden apples from raiding monuments that exist in the same ocean.
And the golden apple is powerful enough to take on big crowds, it just matters on how fast you kill the enemy.
Considering how fast ghasts will notice you before you try to kill them... ain't nobody got time fo' dat, ain't nobody got time, ain't nobody got time, ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
I guess it will be a bit longer, because the fire charges will put out lots of fire, therefore making it easier to walk into fire... again, even within a 4x4 area. (P.S., how do you know that I generally go prepared?)
Be prepared. Ghasts' fireballs are not that fast, and considering you are saying they hover over lava, far away.
I facepalmed at this. Going into the nether without armor is suicidal.
Say that the Wither harnesses its flight from it's bound nether star, and if the potion only lasts a few seconds, it would mean that the player would have to grind wither skeletons for ages and then defeat the wither, per 3 potions.
It's still flight, no matter what. It'd still be overpowered in multiplayer, no matter how rare it is.
Because once somebody gets it, the whole game is changed, because somebody can fly now, and swoop down and kill you at any instant. Then more and more people would get it, and it would become a trainwreck of buttloads of people flying around.
I've seen this argument shot down brutally crucified time and time again. Going "It's simple, if it's extremely powerful but extremely hard to get, it's balanced!" proves nothing. Mentioning that offers absolutely no argumentative support for a suggestion if the core of it is ridiculous.
If I go "uhm okay guys okay I suggest we have nukes in the game but the only way to get them is <insert hardest task in the world here> so support!" Is my idea balanced? Sure, possibly. Is my idea of nukes still absolutely stupid? Yupyup. Because it's still something no player should have.
Onto the suggestion. Flying potions and being able to fly in Survival are very redundant, hated ideas here, and I never seen one that was successful, and for good reason.
"for good reason" yeah sure. I haven't seen one. Flying is nothing compared to blowing up a massive chunk of land with one block. and you think that flying is "extremely powerful" did you even look at my op.
I will not support an idea that includes people brewing potions that last 5 seconds. Why would we even need this? We have tons of other ways possible for transportation.
"for good reason" yeah sure. I haven't seen one. Flying is nothing compared to blowing up a massive chunk of land with one block. and you think that flying is "extremely powerful" did you even look at my op.
"massive chunk"?
I'm sorry, but where'd you get the idea that a 4 x 3 x 2 hole was massive?
Anyway, this is what you call a red herring statement.
I'll give an example.
OP: We should have iron cows! They drop iron but are super rare! You breed them with iron nuggets which are new stuff so yeah craft them like gold so yeah!!!!
Critic: No support; this is overpowered becuase you can still farm them even if they're rare.
OP:Well it's nothing compared to [insert comparison here]! LOLOLOL!
Normally, a red herring statement on the forum is either
I'm sorry, but where'd you get the idea that a 4 x 3 x 2 hole was massive?
Anyway, this is what you call a red herring statement.
I'll give an example.
OP: We should have iron cows! They drop iron but are super rare! You breed them with iron nuggets which are new stuff so yeah craft them like gold so yeah!!!!
Critic: No support; this is overpowered becuase you can still farm them even if they're rare.
OP:Well it's nothing compared to [insert comparison here]! LOLOLOL!
Normally, a red herring statement on the forum is either
I'm sorry, but where'd you get the idea that a 4 x 3 x 2 hole was massive?
Anyway, this is what you call a red herring statement.
I'll give an example.
OP: We should have iron cows! They drop iron but are super rare! You breed them with iron nuggets which are new stuff so yeah craft them like gold so yeah!!!!
Critic: No support; this is overpowered becuase you can still farm them even if they're rare.
OP:Well it's nothing compared to [insert comparison here]! LOLOLOL!
Normally, a red herring statement on the forum is either
A ) it's nothing compared to!
B ) well at least it's not!
*facepalm* you are pretty non observant , look at the friggen quote above the text sheesh, he was comparing this to a nuke.
Yes, but you know that if you chase them and back down they have a chance to come close right? Also Ghasts can't blow up cobblestone or nether brick.
I guess so, but then they will have shot tons of fireballs by the time you do so, and you might fall into a lava ocean because of all those explosions, depending on where you are (happened to me several times), and considering how much fire those things put in each explosion, you might fall on fire and burn yourself, or just accidentally step in one pile of fire with a tiny misclick.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
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Normally I would say this is extremely unlikely, but...
I remember playing Minecraft: Xbox 360 edition for the first time.
I made a Nether portal, and entered. When I spawned, I was on a thin layer of Netherrack, and was assaulted by 2 Ghasts.
I did not have fun.
Anyways, to make this actually related:
Flying is pretty OP in my opinion, almost* no matter how you put it. So even adding a few more items to make it difficult to obtain isn't that much balance.
Sure it was hard to get, but with perseverance (Don't forget those redstone-addicts that love to farm literally every aspect of the game) you essentially become OP, even for a short amount of time, and as the enchanted golden apple proved; not balanced.
No support.
*Almost as in I'm waiting for someone to actually blow my mind with a flying suggestion that's balanced, and doesn't require a machine such as blimps....
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Considering how fast ghasts will notice you before you try to kill them... ain't nobody got time fo' dat, ain't nobody got time, ain't nobody got time, ain't nobody got time fo' dat!
I guess it will be a bit longer, because the fire charges will put out lots of fire, therefore making it easier to walk into fire... again, even within a 4x4 area. (P.S., how do you know that I generally go prepared?)
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
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First of all, I find it hard to believe you haven't heard of any of the negative potions, as they are made using a positive potion with a fermented spider eye. Also, the point of the recipe was to avoid adding new items (A bat eye which could be combined with a ghast tear for another item), and there aren't many end-game materials which are usable for potions, so I suggested to combined a tear with a speed potion to keep the tear cost.
Now for the power of this, I had suggested earlier to change it into a temporary float mid-air similarly to Yoshi's double jump in most Mario games, which would give you extra altitude and time in the air. It wouldn't be quite the same as speed and jump potions together, as this makes you stay in mid-air and not jump higher.
Redstone addicts are the kind of people that generally like to spend redstone on fancy machinery, not potions. And no, the golden apple is actually pretty balanced, if not, maybe a little underpowered for the 72 gold and an apple it costs. And you can't do so much in such short time.
What do you have against it requiring a vehicle of any sort?
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
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I never mentioned potions, I mentioned that they farm literally everything, so that would include this, plus, I need a better term...
The golden apple isn't nearly as rare as it used to be. Now all you have to do is raid an ocean monument, only one monument to get your apple.
They are fairly common, too. It isn't balanced imo, but that's mostly because of how servers are. "donate" to them for OP gear.
Not counting that, you can annihilate an entire crowd with just one. It's just a matter of conserving it.
Which implied that you mean potions as well, though I am still kinda unsure if redstoners (I think that was the term you were looking for) spend much redstone on potions.
It may not be rare, but you will still need some good protection (iron, maybe even diamond) to save yourself from all those guardians + a few good water breathing potions + several boats, all together being nearly as expensive as the enchanted golden apple.
Maybe a (somewhat) small crowd, when considering its short-ish effects.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
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No, I mean farming in general. Like farming Ghasts. People go to crazy limits just to farm materials, you'd be surprised. I don't get why. It's much easier to just kill it yourself...
You can also go with invisibility, and water breathing potions. Oh and milk, and since you can brew three of each potion at a time... Yeah..
Boats are pretty easy to get, too. The only issue might be the carrot, unless you find a village, or are lucky.
Even if you decided to get the armor, it's going to last you a while, not just one monument, so getting one set of diamond/iron armor can = multiple golden apples from raiding monuments that exist in the same ocean.
And the golden apple is powerful enough to take on big crowds, it just matters on how fast you kill the enemy.
you thought you'd sneak out? you thought people'd ignore you?
WELL I DIDN'T! HA! HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT?
actually, in retrospect, you probably don't care...
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Be prepared. Ghasts' fireballs are not that fast, and considering you are saying they hover over lava, far away.
I facepalmed at this. Going into the nether without armor is suicidal.
That honestly makes no sense. Netherstar somehow equates to flight?
Nice to see you guys again.
you mean like a nether star somehow equates to a beacon?
or an ender pearl and blaze powder equates to eyes of ender?
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It's still flight, no matter what. It'd still be overpowered in multiplayer, no matter how rare it is.
Because once somebody gets it, the whole game is changed, because somebody can fly now, and swoop down and kill you at any instant. Then more and more people would get it, and it would become a trainwreck of buttloads of people flying around.
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"for good reason" yeah sure. I haven't seen one. Flying is nothing compared to blowing up a massive chunk of land with one block. and you think that flying is "extremely powerful" did you even look at my op.
Like I said you are not moving very quickly.
My explanation for it would be physic powers/Magic.
I will not support an idea that includes people brewing potions that last 5 seconds. Why would we even need this? We have tons of other ways possible for transportation.
"massive chunk"?
I'm sorry, but where'd you get the idea that a 4 x 3 x 2 hole was massive?
Anyway, this is what you call a red herring statement.
I'll give an example.
OP: We should have iron cows! They drop iron but are super rare! You breed them with iron nuggets which are new stuff so yeah craft them like gold so yeah!!!!
Critic: No support; this is overpowered becuase you can still farm them even if they're rare.
OP: Well it's nothing compared to [insert comparison here]! LOLOLOL!
Normally, a red herring statement on the forum is either
A ) it's nothing compared to!
B ) well at least it's not!
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I agree, I've seen that a lot.
*facepalm* you are pretty non observant , look at the friggen quote above the text sheesh, he was comparing this to a nuke.