I'm actually thinking of more rewards from the Ender Dragon, and it also connects, because its color is similar to that of those ender patricles.
Woooow, THAT'S what connects the two? Some of the stuff you're saying is exactly what a joke theader would say. Okay then, I drop my idea of creepers dropping spaghetti. They now drop tacos with green sauce because both that and Creepers are green. Support?
Woooow, THAT'S what connects the two? Some of the stuff you're saying is exactly what a joke theader would say. Okay then, I drop my idea of creepers dropping spaghetti. They now drop tacos with green sauce because both that and Creepers are green. Support?
What's your point? This idea obviously makes more sense than that. It also adds more fun than that.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
What's your point? This idea obviously makes more sense than that.
My point is that you validating your amethyst furnace by mentioning it has similar colors to the enderdragon particles is absolutely stupid. According to you, who cares what makes more sense? We punch trees. You said there's no fitting and unfitting in this game, remember?
My point is that you validating your amethyst furnace by mentioning it has similar colors to the enderdragon particles is absolutely stupid. According to you, who cares what makes more sense? We punch trees. You said there's no fitting and unfitting in this game, remember?
Oh, right... of course I remember, lol. That tacos idea is pointless, that's one of the reasons why I don't go with that idea. (Wow, over 3,700 people saw this idea, yay!)
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
1. Increasing efficiency is better than you think. Someone might be taking such a long time to build a castle or something, that he/she might cancel the project out of an end to patience. If you don't care about efficiency, then go buy ancient household items from the antique store. The time depends on which furnace you're using, and how big the map or something is going to be.
2. The beauty of the furnace doesn't have anything to do with its production rate. Also, the designs of the furnaces are too varied to find a "suitable texture pack". What if I'm playing on a snapshot? The texture pack doesn't automatically update to the latest version, and I'm not going to completely change the familiar look of minecraft for one particular version, as well as a few items. You don't want a cool looking furnace?
1. Here is how you do ANY serious smelting project:
THE WORKSTATION :
- Build a 4 wide, 4 tall "wall of 16 furnaces".
- Empty most of inventory
- Grab 16 full stacks of whatever you wanna smelt, plus 2 stacks of coal.
- Pre-split the stacks of coal into 8 stacks of 8 each for a total of 16 stacks of 8 coals. Click then click-Drag is so fast and easy.
- Move move a little bit, right-click a furnace, shiftclick 1 stack to smelt, shift-click 1 stack of coal, hit escape.
Lather, rinse, repeat. 16 times. That is VERY quick to do.
If you wish, make a 2nd, 3rd ore even 4th workstation right next to the first one (or in the middle of the walls of a 8x8x5 high square room) Trust me, by the tme you fill the last furnace, you'll have all the smelted stuff for even a big castle. In less than a single minecraft day. Compared to mining the smeltables, this is nothing.
And if you hate the micromanagement if going into each furnace, then go with the:
FULLY AUTOMATED WORKSTATION:
(can be duplicated several times too)
- 1 furnace, with hopper on top and on side. Single Chest above hopper on side with Coal. Double chest above hopper on top with smeltables. Hopper under furnace, with double chest on side for output. Small redstone signaling as needed.
- Fill coal and smeltable chests, go eat breakfast or something, done, 1 double chest smelted.
Since you sir seem to have patience issues, so I recommend either the 3rd of 4th options instead:
- When you do a humongously huge project, do it in Creative mode. You don't seem to have enough patience to do otherwise !
- Or limit yourself with projects in scale with your own capabilities. Ask yourself : "How big is my patience?" and then choose projects of the same size as your patience, or less, and no bigger than that.
Personally, I think EVERYTHING in the game is way too fast. By several orders of magnitude. Smelting ? Could used being 1+ minutes per item instead pf 10 seconds. Growing trees ? Animals reaching adulthood ? Why not hours instead of only 30 minutes ? In short, allow me to harvest my entire farm and by the time I finish, I should not get a farm already ready to be harvested all over again right away. Same for smelting, it should not be "already over" by the time I merely finished loading up all my furnaces with stuff. A full stack ? It should be "Heh, I can go make another short trip to my mine". Heck, even bread should be baked, not "Pop I suddenly crafted an entire stack in a second !" Everything in the game seems designed for kids with short attention span deficit disorder or something like that lol. It's so bad, I can go from stark naked to full decked in enchanted diamond armor and tools in a single evening of play. It should instead spread over several game sessions, with some progress at each sitting, and reaching the top tier only after at least sveral sittings.
Rename "Survival" mode "Playground" mode instead and make a new mode which would be the one called "Survival", but with a sower speed of getting stuff. In other words: that new Survival mode would be to current Survival mode, what current Survival mode is to Creative mode. Playground would be to trest thre game and for low-patience players or that don't have a lot of time to play. Survival would be for those wanting an extra challenge where better designs actually WILL make a difference. Btw don't mix this with Hardcode or difficulty level. I want many lives to try something having actually smoother progress and better required planning overall, not being limited to only 1 life at doing something just as easy to complete in a single sitting (or only a few, if I add the ender dragon, the wither, and making a beacon). I'd definitely play that. That would be a harsher mode for the builders, but would be much cooler for the Survival aspect. And in that mode, you're really value your stuff a lot more. Current Survival is way more sandboxy, than actually being about survival at all.
1. Here is how you do ANY serious smelting project:
THE WORKSTATION :
- Build a 4 wide, 4 tall "wall of 16 furnaces".
- Empty most of inventory
- Grab 16 full stacks of whatever you wanna smelt, plus 2 stacks of coal.
- Pre-split the stacks of coal into 8 stacks of 8 each for a total of 16 stacks of 8 coals. Click then click-Drag is so fast and easy.
- Move move a little bit, right-click a furnace, shiftclick 1 stack to smelt, shift-click 1 stack of coal, hit escape.
Lather, rinse, repeat. 16 times. That is VERY quick to do.
If you wish, make a 2nd, 3rd ore even 4th workstation right next to the first one (or in the middle of the walls of a 8x8x5 high square room) Trust me, by the tme you fill the last furnace, you'll have all the smelted stuff for even a big castle. In less than a single minecraft day. Compared to mining the smeltables, this is nothing.
And if you hate the micromanagement if going into each furnace, then go with the:
FULLY AUTOMATED WORKSTATION:
(can be duplicated several times too)
- 1 furnace, with hopper on top and on side. Single Chest above hopper on side with Coal. Double chest above hopper on top with smeltables. Hopper under furnace, with double chest on side for output. Small redstone signaling as needed.
- Fill coal and smeltable chests, go eat breakfast or something, done, 1 double chest smelted.
Since you sir seem to have patience issues, so I recommend either the 3rd of 4th options instead:
- When you do a humongously huge project, do it in Creative mode. You don't seem to have enough patience to do otherwise !
- Or limit yourself with projects in scale with your own capabilities. Ask yourself : "How big is my patience?" and then choose projects of the same size as your patience, or less, and no bigger than that.
Personally, I think EVERYTHING in the game is way too fast. By several orders of magnitude. Smelting ? Could used being 1+ minutes per item instead pf 10 seconds. Growing trees ? Animals reaching adulthood ? Why not hours instead of only 30 minutes ? In short, allow me to harvest my entire farm and by the time I finish, I should not get a farm already ready to be harvested all over again right away. Same for smelting, it should not be "already over" by the time I merely finished loading up all my furnaces with stuff. A full stack ? It should be "Heh, I can go make another short trip to my mine". Heck, even bread should be baked, not "Pop I suddenly crafted an entire stack in a second !" Everything in the game seems designed for kids with short attention span deficit disorder or something like that lol. It's so bad, I can go from stark naked to full decked in enchanted diamond armor and tools in a single evening of play. It should instead spread over several game sessions, with some progress at each sitting, and reaching the top tier only after at least sveral sittings.
Rename "Survival" mode "Playground" mode instead and make a new mode which would be the one called "Survival", but with a sower speed of getting stuff. In other words: that new Survival mode would be to current Survival mode, what current Survival mode is to Creative mode. Playground would be to trest thre game and for low-patience players or that don't have a lot of time to play. Survival would be for those wanting an extra challenge where better designs actually WILL make a difference. Btw don't mix this with Hardcode or difficulty level. I want many lives to try something having actually smoother progress and better required planning overall, not being limited to only 1 life at doing something just as easy to complete in a single sitting (or only a few, if I add the ender dragon, the wither, and making a beacon). I'd definitely play that. That would be a harsher mode for the builders, but would be much cooler for the Survival aspect. And in that mode, you're really value your stuff a lot more. Current Survival is way more sandboxy, than actually being about survival at all.
its a freaking game it doesnt need logic
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I see failures under a tree aka the Online dater owners who have the marry plugin because they're loners and cant get a real girlfriend or boyfriend because they apparently are inmature 16 year olds to under stand what a real girlfriend in because they sit in their room online dating on roblox or minecraft with some 8 year old girl and the boy being 18. online daters are excuses.
1. Here is how you do ANY serious smelting project:
THE WORKSTATION :
- Build a 4 wide, 4 tall "wall of 16 furnaces".
- Empty most of inventory
- Grab 16 full stacks of whatever you wanna smelt, plus 2 stacks of coal.
- Pre-split the stacks of coal into 8 stacks of 8 each for a total of 16 stacks of 8 coals. Click then click-Drag is so fast and easy.
- Move move a little bit, right-click a furnace, shiftclick 1 stack to smelt, shift-click 1 stack of coal, hit escape.
Lather, rinse, repeat. 16 times. That is VERY quick to do.
If you wish, make a 2nd, 3rd ore even 4th workstation right next to the first one (or in the middle of the walls of a 8x8x5 high square room) Trust me, by the tme you fill the last furnace, you'll have all the smelted stuff for even a big castle. In less than a single minecraft day. Compared to mining the smeltables, this is nothing.
And if you hate the micromanagement if going into each furnace, then go with the:
FULLY AUTOMATED WORKSTATION:
(can be duplicated several times too)
- 1 furnace, with hopper on top and on side. Single Chest above hopper on side with Coal. Double chest above hopper on top with smeltables. Hopper under furnace, with double chest on side for output. Small redstone signaling as needed.
- Fill coal and smeltable chests, go eat breakfast or something, done, 1 double chest smelted.
Since you sir seem to have patience issues, so I recommend either the 3rd of 4th options instead:
- When you do a humongously huge project, do it in Creative mode. You don't seem to have enough patience to do otherwise !
- Or limit yourself with projects in scale with your own capabilities. Ask yourself : "How big is my patience?" and then choose projects of the same size as your patience, or less, and no bigger than that.
Personally, I think EVERYTHING in the game is way too fast. By several orders of magnitude. Smelting ? Could used being 1+ minutes per item instead pf 10 seconds. Growing trees ? Animals reaching adulthood ? Why not hours instead of only 30 minutes ? In short, allow me to harvest my entire farm and by the time I finish, I should not get a farm already ready to be harvested all over again right away. Same for smelting, it should not be "already over" by the time I merely finished loading up all my furnaces with stuff. A full stack ? It should be "Heh, I can go make another short trip to my mine". Heck, even bread should be baked, not "Pop I suddenly crafted an entire stack in a second !" Everything in the game seems designed for kids with short attention span deficit disorder or something like that lol. It's so bad, I can go from stark naked to full decked in enchanted diamond armor and tools in a single evening of play. It should instead spread over several game sessions, with some progress at each sitting, and reaching the top tier only after at least sveral sittings.
Rename "Survival" mode "Playground" mode instead and make a new mode which would be the one called "Survival", but with a sower speed of getting stuff. In other words: that new Survival mode would be to current Survival mode, what current Survival mode is to Creative mode. Playground would be to trest thre game and for low-patience players or that don't have a lot of time to play. Survival would be for those wanting an extra challenge where better designs actually WILL make a difference. Btw don't mix this with Hardcode or difficulty level. I want many lives to try something having actually smoother progress and better required planning overall, not being limited to only 1 life at doing something just as easy to complete in a single sitting (or only a few, if I add the ender dragon, the wither, and making a beacon). I'd definitely play that. That would be a harsher mode for the builders, but would be much cooler for the Survival aspect. And in that mode, you're really value your stuff a lot more. Current Survival is way more sandboxy, than actually being about survival at all.
I don't have patience issues; I was just suggesting higher tier furnaces that fit design themes and work more efficiently with less tedium to look forward to, as well as come with a few special features/perks. As a matter of fact, I have built and am building a lot of complex minecart systems that each travel thousands of blocks. Yes, they were all built in survival. And I bet there are a lot of games out there that could quench your thirst for a legit survival game. No? If not, maybe you could try survival in the forest, or some other biome in real life.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
swaglord, what side of these arguments do you see yourself on?
I've seen all kinds of internet arguments, and this one is by far the most ridiculous. The posts that Theriasis gave you is enough to put even the greatest debate teams to shame. She gave you looooong posts of detailed arguments, a ton of which you pretended like they weren't even there. It takes someone to ask you a question 5 times before you finally answer one, and you had the balls to say to her "oh all you did was complain about my suggestion, you haven't gave a counter-argument yet." which was the most big baby thing I've seen anyone do on a forum.
We also backed you into a corner with the creeper/spaghetti pseudosuggestion, another thing you tried to avoid. Please, you need to know when to raise the white flag. When you have to connect a furnace to the color of particles emitting from a boss mob, then you're out of fuel.
swaglord676, what side of these arguments do you see yourself on?
I've seen all kinds of internet arguments, and this one is by far the most ridiculous. The posts that Theriasis gave you is enough to put even the greatest debate teams to shame. She gave you looooong posts of detailed arguments, a ton of which you pretended like they weren't even there. It takes someone to ask you a question 5 times before you finally answer one, and you had the balls to say to her "oh all you did was complain about my suggestion, you haven't gave a counter-argument yet." which was the most big baby thing I've seen anyone do on a forum.
We also backed you into a corner with the creeper/spaghetti pseudosuggestion, another thing you tried to avoid. Please, you need to know when to raise the white flag. When you have to connect a furnace to the color of particles emitting from a boss mob, then you're out of fuel.
#theriasisfanatic
I've replied to pretty much every one of her arguments, including the first ones, and you didn't back me into a corner. It seems like you have given up. If you want to, we can stop this argument, and move on with our lives. Enough to put the greatest debate teams to shame? No, I have seen better arguments.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
I've replied to pretty much every one of her arguments, including the first ones, and you didn't back me into a corner. It seems like you have given up. If you want to we can stop this argument, and move on with our lives.
Please! Everyone that comes on this thread! DON'T reply, post an argument, or post an opinion! It is like arguing with a wall! Stop bumping it with arguments/ counter arguments, so this thing can just END. Thanks, I hope I'm not being rude,but I probably am because I'm kinda sad that everyone will comment and bump up dumb ideas instead of supporting and bumping good ones! Its the only way to end this! Forum Darwinism (if you do/don't believe in it, don't start a war over word choice)!
Wow, That was really out of line. Sorry, didn't mean to be so rant-y, and I'm not going to justify what i did either.
Sorry i was a jerk. Take care, good luck with you post, I need to recollect my things and cool off. Sorry again.
Please! Everyone that comes on this thread! DON'T reply, post an argument, or post an opinion!
I'm guessing this is so you can make your own more furnaces thread without being redundant? Or because you hate this idea, and you want to force that on everyone else.
[quote]Quote from joshosh34jump It is like arguing with a wall! Actually, there have been several people here who have suggested that I rearrange/improve, and possibly remove a few of these furnaces, and gave reasons, so I did listen to their arguments, and improved on this thread.
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Thanks, I hope I'm not being rude,but I probably am because I'm kinda sad that everyone will comment and bump up dumb ideas instead of supporting and bumping good ones! Its the only way to end this! Forum Darwinism (if you do/don't believe in it, don't start a war over word choice)! You are being rude. How would you feel if you spent days on making a thread, and then someone comes and says "omg please stop replying to this thread so it can die for ETERNITY!!!"? Responses in bold.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
I've replied to pretty much every one of her arguments, including the first ones, and you didn't back me into a corner. It seems like you have given up. If you want to, we can stop this argument, and move on with our lives. Enough to put the greatest debate teams to shame? No, I have seen better arguments.
True, you have to replied to all of her arguments, eventually. She had to ask the same questions over and over to shake answers out of you. You often claim that you answered a question before, but the answer you gave was just an answer you were willing to give and nothing more, rather than have the answer encompass the entirety of the question. It's a bit like this...
Person 1, "Dude, what were you thinking? You broke into my house and painted my cats white! Why did you do that?! What gives you the right?! How did you get into my house?! Answer me!!"
Person 2, "cats look better when they're white."
This thread is 10 pages long, and you've only given one objective reasoning for your furnaces. You know what that was? You said that hoppers negate getting XP, which isn't a good defense because that's a good tradeoff for a furnace-hopper system being purely automated. The reasons you gave were pure opinions and overgeneralizations:
"Yeah but furnaces hog up space."
"Yeah but furnaces and hoppers look ugly."
"Yeah but these new furnaces are pretty."
"Yeah well some people don't have everlasting patience."
"Well if something is useful and pleases some players, Mojang should just add it!"
"The community is made up of small children, they won't see any balance issues."
Those are YOUR thoughts, not an entire community's. These are cheap blanket statements that you used to defend yourself. Two of those statements you've come to regret saying.
Please! Everyone that comes on this thread! DON'T reply, post an argument, or post an opinion!
It is like arguing with a wall! Stop bumping it with arguments/ counter arguments, so this thing can just END.
Thanks, I hope I'm not being rude,but I probably am because I'm kinda sad that everyone will comment and bump up dumb ideas instead of supporting and bumping good ones! Its the only way to end this! Forum Darwinism (if you do/don't believe in it, don't start a war over word choice)!
I'm actually gonna side with swaglord on this part. Do you want this thread to die just because you can make a thread about furnaces? That's quite selfish. I agree with the fact that bad suggestions on this forum get bumped and flooded with replies, but going into someone's (non-joke) thread and going "okay let's just let this die" is rude. So to answer your question, yeah, you're being quite rude.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
I think it might be cool that you can get the Amethyst Furnace in another way instead of the Ender Dragon.
Maybe like dungeon loot or something.
What about a 1 in 30 chance of finding one in a nether chest? Does that sound good?
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Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
I don't have patience issues; I was just suggesting higher tier furnaces that fit design themes and work more efficiently with less tedium to look forward to, as well as come with a few special features/perks. As a matter of fact, I have built and am building a lot of complex minecart systems that each travel thousands of blocks. Yes, they were all built in survival. And I bet there are a lot of games out there that could quench your thirst for a legit survival game. No? If not, maybe you could try survival in the forest, or some other biome in real life.
Congrats for the minecart system, I did a 2000 blocks single-line rail one once (but in a decorated and diagonal 3x3 corridor) and yeah, anybody with any kind of patience issues couldn't do that kind of big build without going bonkers first !
Tried survival in the forest, yup. MIRACULOUSLY I'm still alive today. I'm better at survival in games lol. Currently I'm playing the mod "MITE - Minecraft Is Too Easy", and it satisfies me nicely on that aspect. Anyway I don't see how the thirst for a legit survival in my gaming life implies I should do anything survival in real life lol. That would be like me saying if you want all those furnaces you should build them for real in real life. That kind of logic just doesn't apply to the forum.
I see what you tried to do, but frankly we don't need a ton of higher tier furnaces just like we don't need 5 types of Bread food items in the game or 4 sizes of potion bottles, or hacing specialized crafting tables for food recipes, carpentry, stonemasonry, etc. The basic furnace does the job, if we need faster we just use a group of wall of furnaces. If we need even better, then a redstone-controlled smelting engine device using chests and hoppers. And if that is STILL not enough, then mods.
MAYBE one "super furnace", but somehow a furnace that is just faster, more efficient, and basically just replaces a bunch of normal furnaces, with less clicking needed, just doesn't seem all that attractive to me. It needs to have special function. Like for example diamond armor woukd be made not from diamonds, but from diamond ingots, and there would be a "higher tier" furnace that can smelt diamonds into those diamond ingots. A furnace that just panders to laziness (faster, more compact, etc.) is like those suggesting armor tiers above diamonds: fact is, it ain't necessary at all.
MC design tries to keep things as simple as possible, after all.
Congrats for the minecart system, I did a 2000 blocks single-line rail one once (but in a decorated and diagonal 3x3 corridor) and yeah, anybody with any kind of patience issues couldn't do that kind of big build without going bonkers first !
Tried survival in the forest, yup. MIRACULOUSLY I'm still alive today. I'm better at survival in games lol. Currently I'm playing the mod "MITE - Minecraft Is Too Easy", and it satisfies me nicely on that aspect. Anyway I don't see how the thirst for a legit survival in my gaming life implies I should do anything survival in real life lol. That would be like me saying if you want all those furnaces you should build them for real in real life. That kind of logic just doesn't apply to the forum.
I see what you tried to do, but frankly we don't need a ton of higher tier furnaces just like we don't need 5 types of Bread food items in the game or 4 sizes of potion bottles, or hacing specialized crafting tables for food recipes, carpentry, stonemasonry, etc. The basic furnace does the job, if we need faster we just use a group of wall of furnaces. If we need even better, then a redstone-controlled smelting engine device using chests and hoppers. And if that is STILL not enough, then mods.
MAYBE one "super furnace", but somehow a furnace that is just faster, more efficient, and basically just replaces a bunch of normal furnaces, with less clicking needed, just doesn't seem all that attractive to me. It needs to have special function. Like for example diamond armor woukd be made not from diamonds, but from diamond ingots, and there would be a "higher tier" furnace that can smelt diamonds into those diamond ingots. A furnace that just panders to laziness (faster, more compact, etc.) is like those suggesting armor tiers above diamonds: fact is, it ain't necessary at all.
MC design tries to keep things as simple as possible, after all.
Okay, I'll try to think of unique features to add to more of the furnaces. But what would be the point of adding diamond ingots? Oh well, I guess that's up to me to decide.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
Woooow, THAT'S what connects the two? Some of the stuff you're saying is exactly what a joke theader would say. Okay then, I drop my idea of creepers dropping spaghetti. They now drop tacos with green sauce because both that and Creepers are green. Support?
What's your point? This idea obviously makes more sense than that. It also adds more fun than that.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2375662-tame-able-rats-in-minecraft-pets-that-spawn-in?page=1http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2304689-hitches-45-supporters
My point is that you validating your amethyst furnace by mentioning it has similar colors to the enderdragon particles is absolutely stupid. According to you, who cares what makes more sense? We punch trees. You said there's no fitting and unfitting in this game, remember?
Oh, right... of course I remember, lol. That tacos idea is pointless, that's one of the reasons why I don't go with that idea. (Wow, over 3,700 people saw this idea, yay!)
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2375662-tame-able-rats-in-minecraft-pets-that-spawn-in?page=1http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-discussion/suggestions/2304689-hitches-45-supporters
1. Here is how you do ANY serious smelting project:
THE WORKSTATION :
- Build a 4 wide, 4 tall "wall of 16 furnaces".
- Empty most of inventory
- Grab 16 full stacks of whatever you wanna smelt, plus 2 stacks of coal.
- Pre-split the stacks of coal into 8 stacks of 8 each for a total of 16 stacks of 8 coals. Click then click-Drag is so fast and easy.
- Move move a little bit, right-click a furnace, shiftclick 1 stack to smelt, shift-click 1 stack of coal, hit escape.
Lather, rinse, repeat. 16 times. That is VERY quick to do.
If you wish, make a 2nd, 3rd ore even 4th workstation right next to the first one (or in the middle of the walls of a 8x8x5 high square room) Trust me, by the tme you fill the last furnace, you'll have all the smelted stuff for even a big castle. In less than a single minecraft day. Compared to mining the smeltables, this is nothing.
And if you hate the micromanagement if going into each furnace, then go with the:
FULLY AUTOMATED WORKSTATION:
(can be duplicated several times too)
- 1 furnace, with hopper on top and on side. Single Chest above hopper on side with Coal. Double chest above hopper on top with smeltables. Hopper under furnace, with double chest on side for output. Small redstone signaling as needed.
- Fill coal and smeltable chests, go eat breakfast or something, done, 1 double chest smelted.
Since you sir seem to have patience issues, so I recommend either the 3rd of 4th options instead:
- When you do a humongously huge project, do it in Creative mode. You don't seem to have enough patience to do otherwise !
- Or limit yourself with projects in scale with your own capabilities. Ask yourself : "How big is my patience?" and then choose projects of the same size as your patience, or less, and no bigger than that.
Personally, I think EVERYTHING in the game is way too fast. By several orders of magnitude. Smelting ? Could used being 1+ minutes per item instead pf 10 seconds. Growing trees ? Animals reaching adulthood ? Why not hours instead of only 30 minutes ? In short, allow me to harvest my entire farm and by the time I finish, I should not get a farm already ready to be harvested all over again right away. Same for smelting, it should not be "already over" by the time I merely finished loading up all my furnaces with stuff. A full stack ? It should be "Heh, I can go make another short trip to my mine". Heck, even bread should be baked, not "Pop I suddenly crafted an entire stack in a second !" Everything in the game seems designed for kids with short attention span deficit disorder or something like that lol. It's so bad, I can go from stark naked to full decked in enchanted diamond armor and tools in a single evening of play. It should instead spread over several game sessions, with some progress at each sitting, and reaching the top tier only after at least sveral sittings.
Rename "Survival" mode "Playground" mode instead and make a new mode which would be the one called "Survival", but with a sower speed of getting stuff. In other words: that new Survival mode would be to current Survival mode, what current Survival mode is to Creative mode. Playground would be to trest thre game and for low-patience players or that don't have a lot of time to play. Survival would be for those wanting an extra challenge where better designs actually WILL make a difference. Btw don't mix this with Hardcode or difficulty level. I want many lives to try something having actually smoother progress and better required planning overall, not being limited to only 1 life at doing something just as easy to complete in a single sitting (or only a few, if I add the ender dragon, the wither, and making a beacon). I'd definitely play that. That would be a harsher mode for the builders, but would be much cooler for the Survival aspect. And in that mode, you're really value your stuff a lot more. Current Survival is way more sandboxy, than actually being about survival at all.
its a freaking game it doesnt need logic
I see failures under a tree aka the Online dater owners who have the marry plugin because they're loners and cant get a real girlfriend or boyfriend because they apparently are inmature 16 year olds to under stand what a real girlfriend in because they sit in their room online dating on roblox or minecraft with some 8 year old girl and the boy being 18. online daters are excuses.
I don't have patience issues; I was just suggesting higher tier furnaces that fit design themes and work more efficiently with less tedium to look forward to, as well as come with a few special features/perks. As a matter of fact, I have built and am building a lot of complex minecart systems that each travel thousands of blocks. Yes, they were all built in survival. And I bet there are a lot of games out there that could quench your thirst for a legit survival game. No? If not, maybe you could try survival in the forest, or some other biome in real life.
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I've seen all kinds of internet arguments, and this one is by far the most ridiculous. The posts that Theriasis gave you is enough to put even the greatest debate teams to shame. She gave you looooong posts of detailed arguments, a ton of which you pretended like they weren't even there. It takes someone to ask you a question 5 times before you finally answer one, and you had the balls to say to her "oh all you did was complain about my suggestion, you haven't gave a counter-argument yet." which was the most big baby thing I've seen anyone do on a forum.
We also backed you into a corner with the creeper/spaghetti pseudosuggestion, another thing you tried to avoid. Please, you need to know when to raise the white flag. When you have to connect a furnace to the color of particles emitting from a boss mob, then you're out of fuel.
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I've replied to pretty much every one of her arguments, including the first ones, and you didn't back me into a corner. It seems like you have given up. If you want to, we can stop this argument, and move on with our lives. Enough to put the greatest debate teams to shame? No, I have seen better arguments.
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Please! Everyone that comes on this thread! DON'T reply, post an argument, or post an opinion!It is like arguing with a wall! Stop bumping it with arguments/ counter arguments, so this thing can just END.Thanks, I hope I'm not being rude,but I probably am because I'm kinda sad that everyone will comment and bump up dumb ideas instead of supporting and bumping good ones! Its the only way to end this! Forum Darwinism (if you do/don't believe in it, don't start a war over word choice)!Wow, That was really out of line. Sorry, didn't mean to be so rant-y, and I'm not going to justify what i did either.
Sorry i was a jerk. Take care, good luck with you post, I need to recollect my things and cool off. Sorry again.
I'm guessing this is so you can make your own more furnaces thread without being redundant? Or because you hate this idea, and you want to force that on everyone else.
[quote]Quote from joshosh34 jump It is like arguing with a wall! Actually, there have been several people here who have suggested that I rearrange/improve, and possibly remove a few of these furnaces, and gave reasons, so I did listen to their arguments, and improved on this thread.
[quote]Quote from joshosh34 jump
Thanks, I hope I'm not being rude,but I probably am because I'm kinda sad that everyone will comment and bump up dumb ideas instead of supporting and bumping good ones! Its the only way to end this! Forum Darwinism (if you do/don't believe in it, don't start a war over word choice)! You are being rude. How would you feel if you spent days on making a thread, and then someone comes and says "omg please stop replying to this thread so it can die for ETERNITY!!!"? Responses in bold.
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True, you have to replied to all of her arguments, eventually. She had to ask the same questions over and over to shake answers out of you. You often claim that you answered a question before, but the answer you gave was just an answer you were willing to give and nothing more, rather than have the answer encompass the entirety of the question. It's a bit like this...
Person 1, "Dude, what were you thinking? You broke into my house and painted my cats white! Why did you do that?! What gives you the right?! How did you get into my house?! Answer me!!"
Person 2, "cats look better when they're white."
This thread is 10 pages long, and you've only given one objective reasoning for your furnaces. You know what that was? You said that hoppers negate getting XP, which isn't a good defense because that's a good tradeoff for a furnace-hopper system being purely automated. The reasons you gave were pure opinions and overgeneralizations:
I'm actually gonna side with swaglord on this part. Do you want this thread to die just because you can make a thread about furnaces? That's quite selfish. I agree with the fact that bad suggestions on this forum get bumped and flooded with replies, but going into someone's (non-joke) thread and going "okay let's just let this die" is rude. So to answer your question, yeah, you're being quite rude.
You have been forgiven.
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Maybe like dungeon loot or something.
What about a 1 in 30 chance of finding one in a nether chest? Does that sound good?
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Congrats for the minecart system, I did a 2000 blocks single-line rail one once (but in a decorated and diagonal 3x3 corridor) and yeah, anybody with any kind of patience issues couldn't do that kind of big build without going bonkers first !
Tried survival in the forest, yup. MIRACULOUSLY I'm still alive today. I'm better at survival in games lol. Currently I'm playing the mod "MITE - Minecraft Is Too Easy", and it satisfies me nicely on that aspect. Anyway I don't see how the thirst for a legit survival in my gaming life implies I should do anything survival in real life lol. That would be like me saying if you want all those furnaces you should build them for real in real life. That kind of logic just doesn't apply to the forum.
I see what you tried to do, but frankly we don't need a ton of higher tier furnaces just like we don't need 5 types of Bread food items in the game or 4 sizes of potion bottles, or hacing specialized crafting tables for food recipes, carpentry, stonemasonry, etc. The basic furnace does the job, if we need faster we just use a group of wall of furnaces. If we need even better, then a redstone-controlled smelting engine device using chests and hoppers. And if that is STILL not enough, then mods.
MAYBE one "super furnace", but somehow a furnace that is just faster, more efficient, and basically just replaces a bunch of normal furnaces, with less clicking needed, just doesn't seem all that attractive to me. It needs to have special function. Like for example diamond armor woukd be made not from diamonds, but from diamond ingots, and there would be a "higher tier" furnace that can smelt diamonds into those diamond ingots. A furnace that just panders to laziness (faster, more compact, etc.) is like those suggesting armor tiers above diamonds: fact is, it ain't necessary at all.
MC design tries to keep things as simple as possible, after all.
Okay, I'll try to think of unique features to add to more of the furnaces. But what would be the point of adding diamond ingots? Oh well, I guess that's up to me to decide.
Minecraft is not medieval-themed!!! As a matter of fact, it doesn't have a set time. And when and WHY did putting reponses in the quote, especially long ones, become a trend in the Suggestions? It's rather inconvenient, mainly since the OP has to gather your quote up manually. Avatar made by Endergirl!
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Yeah that sounds better
Adding to the OP.
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