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Most likely they are illegally ignoring the EULA without Mojang's knowledge, or they are using a different launcher to bypass Minecraft's blacklisting.
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I create Minecraft servers as an art. I use them to express myself.
"The only people who hate art are the ones whose art is hated." - Me
You can do what you want if you are paying to run the server. Just because it's in the EULA does not make it enforceable.
People seem not to understand that you bought the game, and therefore agreed to follow Mojang's rules. They don't care if you're paying for your server, it's their rules.
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I create Minecraft servers as an art. I use them to express myself.
"The only people who hate art are the ones whose art is hated." - Me
what do you mean by snapshot blocked any non-eula compliant servers?
Well you see:
In a snapshot, which is basically a dev version of minecraft, with small changes, and in one of those, there were blacklisted servers, which were against the EULA.
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Hey. This will probably annoy you if you are trying to scroll down the page.
People seem not to understand that you bought the game, and therefore agreed to follow Mojang's rules. They don't care if you're paying for your server, it's their rules.
Just because Mojang writes a rule it doesn't mean the rule is enforceable.
If the EULA told you to jump off the roof of a skyscraper would you do that?
Another term of the EULA is that companies cannot use Minecraft to make worlds containing those companies. How ridiculous that any software developer can tell the end user what they can or cannot use their product for.
Just because Mojang writes a rule it doesn't mean the rule is enforceable.
If the EULA told you to jump off the roof of a skyscraper would you do that?
Another term of the EULA is that companies cannot use Minecraft to make worlds containing those companies. How ridiculous that any software developer can tell the end user what they can or cannot use their product for.
EULA is not a person.
And yes it does, if they right a rule about their copyrighted work that is protected legally, they can tell you what to do with their software. If you want to do whatever you want, you try coding your own whole multiplayer sandbox game with all the features of minecraft.
Also, what if I came on to your server and said that your rules were stupid and refused to follow them? You'd ban me. What if I bypassed my ban? You'd IP ban me. What if I still got into your server, and kept breaking your rules?
The way I see it, if you don't follow their rules, no one has to follow yours.
I think that was in reference to the question of "what if the EULA said you had to jump off a bridge?".
In any case. You didn't purchase any software. What you purchased was a software license, a license which grants you the rights to use the software in accordance with the terms of the agreement under which the license was purchased. It does not grant you ownership of the software -- that is still maintained by Mojang and Microsoft -- or the rights to use it in any other manner aside from those prescribed by the terms of the agreement. People think that just because you "buy" something that you can do "whatever you want" with it but that's simply not true. When you buy a movie on DVD, for example. You are granted a license to use the DVD for private home exhibition. Any other use (paid or public exhibition, for example, or copying) is "strictly prohibited." You are very much not "allowed to do anything you want" once the disc is in your hands. It's the same with software. Just because you bought a license, doesn't put you in charge of how to use it.
I think that was in reference to the question of "what if the EULA said you had to jump off a bridge?".
In any case. You didn't purchase any software. What you purchased was a software license, a license which grants you the rights to use the software in accordance with the terms of the agreement under which the license was purchased. It does not grant you ownership of the software -- that is still maintained by Mojang and Microsoft -- or the rights to use it in any other manner aside from those prescribed by the terms of the agreement. People think that just because you "buy" something that you can do "whatever you want" with it but that's simply not true. When you buy a movie on DVD, for example. You are granted a license to use the DVD for private home exhibition. Any other use (paid or public exhibition, for example, or copying) is "strictly prohibited." You are very much not "allowed to do anything you want" once the disc is in your hands. It's the same with software. Just because you bought a license, doesn't put you in charge of how to use it.
Thank you for explaining this better than I could have. I also love your signature, I've quoted that line many times and couldn't remember who it was by :P.
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I create Minecraft servers as an art. I use them to express myself.
"The only people who hate art are the ones whose art is hated." - Me
Guys i have found their secret! The key to escape the eula enforcement is GERMANY!!!!
If you want to make a good server and have it be affordable, just cut spending. Don't make a network, that costs 5x as much. You should make each dollar of donations support your server as much as possible, and if it costs 100 bucks a month that's bad spending on your part.
Those servers with paid kits and such. No, they're not awesome. They take out creativity from the game and basic activities such as mining become worthless to many players because they can get so much better stuff from kits. Players just grind like they're playing cookie clicker and live in boring obsidian boxes because TNT is abundant and to not do so would mean a guaranteed massive grief.
They're violating the EULA, if they're selling players OP items for real money they're breaking the rules.
And also, IronMagnus had a really good explanation.
Such a term of EULA is not enforceable in 27 of the 50 states in the US. So, anyone living in those states and running a server need not worry. That's the great thing about a federal system.
Just because Mojang writes a rule it doesn't mean the rule is enforceable.
If the EULA told you to jump off the roof of a skyscraper would you do that?
Another term of the EULA is that companies cannot use Minecraft to make worlds containing those companies. How ridiculous that any software developer can tell the end user what they can or cannot use their product for.
ChesireWesterfield,
if you knew a single thing about minecraft servers you wouldn't have posted this. Most if not everyone knows that the EULA tells you what you can and cannot do. For example: What if you created a game called Blank. I was a sandbox game, similar to minecraft. It had a multiplayer option, also like minecraft. So when players create servers and disregard the game's rules, you'd say "I have no control so idc"? Well mojang actually told server owners that they need to accept the EULA and what it offers. So next time, please do some research first.
Why desiredcraft is still able to sell ranks and kits with enhancements despite the eula enforcement?
-Pls reply soon as i really want to make a server like that.
Most likely they are illegally ignoring the EULA without Mojang's knowledge, or they are using a different launcher to bypass Minecraft's blacklisting.
You can do what you want if you are paying to run the server. Just because it's in the EULA does not make it enforceable.
umm..which one of you is correct?
This is not correct. Paying for a server does not override the EULA at all, nor does it affect its capability of being enforced.
If desiredcraft is offering packages that affect gameplay, then they are doing so in violation of the EULA.
- sunperp
People seem not to understand that you bought the game, and therefore agreed to follow Mojang's rules. They don't care if you're paying for your server, it's their rules.
Basically, a few versions ago, a snapshot blocked any non-eula compliant servers.
However people kicked off, and they reverted the changes.
Doing what you want to do, is not allowed, however you will probably be fine doing it.
But don't, because it's scummy.
what do you mean by snapshot blocked any non-eula compliant servers?
Guys i have found their secret! The key to escape the eula enforcement is GERMANY!!!!
Well you see:
In a snapshot, which is basically a dev version of minecraft, with small changes, and in one of those, there were blacklisted servers, which were against the EULA.
Just because Mojang writes a rule it doesn't mean the rule is enforceable.
If the EULA told you to jump off the roof of a skyscraper would you do that?
Another term of the EULA is that companies cannot use Minecraft to make worlds containing those companies. How ridiculous that any software developer can tell the end user what they can or cannot use their product for.
Rules and laws that are unjust must be ignored.
EULA is not a person.
And yes it does, if they right a rule about their copyrighted work that is protected legally, they can tell you what to do with their software. If you want to do whatever you want, you try coding your own whole multiplayer sandbox game with all the features of minecraft.
Also, what if I came on to your server and said that your rules were stupid and refused to follow them? You'd ban me. What if I bypassed my ban? You'd IP ban me. What if I still got into your server, and kept breaking your rules?
The way I see it, if you don't follow their rules, no one has to follow yours.
Care to explain why the EULA is "unjust"?
I think that was in reference to the question of "what if the EULA said you had to jump off a bridge?".
In any case. You didn't purchase any software. What you purchased was a software license, a license which grants you the rights to use the software in accordance with the terms of the agreement under which the license was purchased. It does not grant you ownership of the software -- that is still maintained by Mojang and Microsoft -- or the rights to use it in any other manner aside from those prescribed by the terms of the agreement. People think that just because you "buy" something that you can do "whatever you want" with it but that's simply not true. When you buy a movie on DVD, for example. You are granted a license to use the DVD for private home exhibition. Any other use (paid or public exhibition, for example, or copying) is "strictly prohibited." You are very much not "allowed to do anything you want" once the disc is in your hands. It's the same with software. Just because you bought a license, doesn't put you in charge of how to use it.
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Thank you for explaining this better than I could have. I also love your signature, I've quoted that line many times and couldn't remember who it was by :P.
If you want to make a good server and have it be affordable, just cut spending. Don't make a network, that costs 5x as much. You should make each dollar of donations support your server as much as possible, and if it costs 100 bucks a month that's bad spending on your part.
Those servers with paid kits and such. No, they're not awesome. They take out creativity from the game and basic activities such as mining become worthless to many players because they can get so much better stuff from kits. Players just grind like they're playing cookie clicker and live in boring obsidian boxes because TNT is abundant and to not do so would mean a guaranteed massive grief.
They're violating the EULA, if they're selling players OP items for real money they're breaking the rules.
And also, IronMagnus had a really good explanation.
Such a term of EULA is not enforceable in 27 of the 50 states in the US. So, anyone living in those states and running a server need not worry. That's the great thing about a federal system.
ChesireWesterfield,
if you knew a single thing about minecraft servers you wouldn't have posted this. Most if not everyone knows that the EULA tells you what you can and cannot do. For example: What if you created a game called Blank. I was a sandbox game, similar to minecraft. It had a multiplayer option, also like minecraft. So when players create servers and disregard the game's rules, you'd say "I have no control so idc"? Well mojang actually told server owners that they need to accept the EULA and what it offers. So next time, please do some research first.