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I have been having the issue of some of the fruit trees not growing. I can bonemeal most of the saplings, but some I can't, and I've waited and waited, but they are still saplings. Oddly enough, the ones not growing are all tropical fruits (banana, papaya, dragonfruit, date, coconut). I am in a plains biome. Do these have to be in a different biome in order to grow?

Pam,

Can you tell me if the various tree saplings have to be grown in their respective biomes? I'm wondering if I can make an orchard with all of the trees in one spot.

Hmmm... just tried to buy a maple sapling, and at first my spruce saplings disappeared without my getting a maple, then when I opened the market block again a bit later they reappeared and I took them out. I tried again and they didn't disappear -- no exchange seemed to be taking place.



This is on a local server with my nephew. Any clue what's going on?

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I have no idea how to allow my crops to grow on another mod's soil. =(

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I contacted you a while back with some advice to fix this (at least for Garden Stuff mod, but maybe all farmland types). I believe you didn't have a working PC at the time though?
It's now clear what's going on. Your crop blocks are returning EnumPlantType.Plains for their plant type. This is because Minecraft's BlockCrops does not override getPlantType(), and takes its implementation from BlockBush instead. BlockBush hardcodes the plant types for all the Minecraft vanilla blocks, and any other block will return "Plains".
Since I depend on getPlantType being correctly implemented, the compatibility issues should be solved by overriding getPlantType() and returning EnumPlantType.Crop instead. It might help compatibility with some other mods as well, but I don't know any offhand. It would be a good idea to check your other plant blocks as well and make sure they return an appropriate plant type.
As for why this works at all, Minecraft will resort to the canPlaceBlockOn check for instances of BlockBush when the normal canSustainBlock check fails.

Hi Pam,

Archibald_TK told me about the discussion you were having about growing crops on mods' blocks, and I thought that I could help make the solution a little clearer. I'm the author of Enhanced Biomes, which (among other things) adds new farmland, so I've had this issue before.

While jaquadro is correct, it hasn't been mentioned that you have to implement IPlantable. This will give you three new methods:

@Override
public EnumPlantType getPlantType(IBlockAccess world, int x, int y, int z) {
return EnumPlantType.Crop;
}
@Override
public Block getPlant(IBlockAccess world, int x, int y, int z) {
return this;
}
@Override
public int getPlantMetadata(IBlockAccess world, int x, int y, int z) {
return -1;
}

getPlantType is the important one. Just have that return EnumPlantType.Crop, and everything should work.

Hopefully this helps,
SMEZ

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Her blocks descend from BlockCrops/BlockBush, so they implicitly implement IPlantable already. She may also have a good reason to update the other two IPlantable methods, but getPlantType is the important one.

OK, I stand corrected.
I hadn't realised that she probably would have extended BlockCrops. The plants that I've done recently have just extended Block, because they aren't standard crops/bushes.
It's worth remembering to implement it in case she adds a plant that doesn't extend BlockBush though.

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Pam,

Can you tell me if the various tree saplings have to be grown in their respective biomes? I'm wondering if I can make an orchard with all of the trees in one spot.

Yes you can! The trees originally spawn only in their respective areas, however, you can plant them anywhere there is adequate soil and light.



Happy farming!

peace

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Yes you can! The trees originally spawn only in their respective areas, however, you can plant them anywhere there is adequate soil and light.

If this is true, what would cause none of the tropical trees to grow in my game? Does this mod conflict with Biomes o' Plenty? That is the other mod I have installed alongside this one.

@_Arystina_

I use both BOP and this mod, and I've had no trouble planting my own little orchard in a plains biome with nearly every kind of tree. I used bone meal to help speed things up, and several of them can be fussy, especially fig, and can require a good amount of it, but they all worked. Perhaps see if using it would help you?

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@_Arystina_

I use both BOP and this mod, and I've had no trouble planting my own little orchard in a plains biome with nearly every kind of tree. I used bone meal to help speed things up, and several of them can be fussy, especially fig, and can require a good amount of it, but they all worked. Perhaps see if using it would help you?

Took 57 bonemeal, but I finally got the banana tree to grow. I think the same will be for the others. Thanks!

Seeds planted with right click harvest disabled only give one crop and 0-1 seeds. Is there a way to change this so pams crops are closer to vanilla wheat?



Thanks

EDIT:
If you have Extra Utilities installed, the watering can is great for getting stubborn trees to grow.

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Took 57 bonemeal, but I finally got the banana tree to grow. I think the same will be for the others. Thanks!

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along with a skyblock.



Huge thanks, now I wont have to minetweaker it all

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Thanks for bringing all these issues to my attention.



I still have no idea why certain trees (mostly palms) are so, so stubborn when it comes to growing, especially with bonemeal. Their growing code is no different from normal trees.



I'll look into issues with the Market block and why some fruit trees are generating on top of each other.

Pam, in looking at the market block, would there be a way of making the UI show more seeds/saplings per page and just have buy buttons under each seed/sapling? Clicking through all of them can take a while. Granted...this isn't a huge deal, just curious. I also am not sure if all of the seeds are showing as well.

Can growthcraft grapes be used in place of HC grapes for recipes? Trying to find the best way to get these mods working together without a bunch of annoying redundancies. (Plus I really don't like HC grapes, no offense but grapes do not grow like that and it's just too weird for me.)

On that note though, I really wish the melons in this mod worked like the melons in minecraft. Having everything be grown in basically the same way is rather immersion-breaking and a little dull. Not to mention that large plants like gourds and other things that are not leafy should render as some kind of block, the item render works for most things but in that instance actually feels cheap.

Not only that, but the lack of ability to place certain food as blocks has been bothering me for a long time. Things like cakes, drinks, buttles, and other things that would be expected to have a shape in the world.

I remember at some point being able to place wine in the world, and to my knowledge you can still place candles, but these render as items similar to flowers, and not solid blocks, so looking at them from anything but a straight-on angle is awkward. I've actually never used HC candles for decoration for this reason, instead opting to make basic tallow candles from thaumcraft.

I tried AppleMilkTea for a while for the sole reason that every item in the mod has a corresponding block. Unfortunately the fact the guy doesn't seem to care about an english translation for his wiki and the numerous bugs I run into with that mod make it nearly impossible to enjoy, and what kills it for me is that it was actually intended with integration with some tech mods and I really hate tech mods.

I don't really want or need every food item to have a block version though but there are some things that I just think should have one, like cups, bottles, jars, cakes, cheese, and all of the mod's tools.

I am curious how you feel about someone attempting to create blocks for items like that, if it would be welcome or if you feel like you'd rather do everything yourself. I've personally never been able to figure out techne, but I've recently found an alternative to it and wouldn't mind at least trying to make a cheese block or a cup item base.

I also miss the butter churn. I wish it would return, as well, I wish producing things like dough were more of an interactive process instead of an instant craft to make each ingredient feel more unique.

Hi Pam I am in the middle of making my first mod, and i was looking for a tutorial on making your own custom fruit on your own custom trees, but I haven't found ANY tutorials for doing that. Then I came across your mod and saw how you have fruit on your trees. I was just wondering if you can help me make my fruit on my trees for my mod.

PS: Im still on minecraft version 1.6.4

Thank You!!