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So, something more like this? Before, the lines had a transparency of 76% and the rest had a transparency of 68%. Now, the lines have a transparency of 65% and the lines have a transparency of 90%.

It works just the same as the glass does with the renderpass feature, it supports transparency with the renderpass feature, so the visibility glitch allowing you to see through the wall never occurs.

Quote from ThadiusKayne

i'm having issues working out the metadata for upside-down sandstone slabs and stairs... can anyone shed some light on how to format the metadata?... i can get textures to register for the right-side up orientations on the blocks, but not for the slabs and stairs placed upside-down

OK, so the metadata for stairs is 0x0-0x3 for the different directions.
Upside Down stairs is 0x4.

I'm pretty sure you just add the numbers to get the combined metadata.

0x0 upsidedown is 0x4 and 0x3 upsidedown is 0x7.

0-3 are upright versions of different directions of stairs, and 4-7 are the upside down versions facing different directions.

The wiki says that the upsidedown metadata value for slabs is 0x8, so I think the metadata for an upside down sandstone slab would be 9.

Quote from ThadiusKayne

Cheers very much, i'll save this till the morning and give it a try

edit: couldn't wait to try it worked a treat, cheers very much... i'll find another post of yours and rep it up

I made a small mistake before, I meant to say 0x3 upside down is 0x7
but you said it worked, so I think you got the point

I can't for the life of me get my vertical ctm to work with iron bars. Anyone have a working example?

Just as said in the other topic, no..

No support for iron bars? Even with optifine? Well that blows.

Quote from monsterfisher

i wish we could have random wheat and potao/carrot plants as well (not supported by both sadly =/)

Erm... what? That should be possible with both, just by using the blockID for the crop you want, and then metadata to define the stage (they both actually have the same amount of growing stages as wheat), so if you wish, you should be able to define random textures to the final stage of carrots/potatoes, but I'm not sure why you'd want to....

(If carrot/potato plants weren't supported, that would mean wheat isn't either)

And Optifine does not support glass pane/iron bars because the author is having a hard time with how they are rendered.

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Thats what i did before but there have not been any change what so ever. So i assumed since it didnt work in either mcpatcher or optifine that its not supported, i even tried using terrain and block properties (with the correct id/tilenumber of course)

Why? are you joking with me? i mean why apply random textures to textures in the first place? other than that i really think it will make fields much more alive than the same ol texture all over the place

Well, in the next few days I'll try it out and see if I can get it to work. Have you gotten random textures to work on wheat? Carrots/potatoes as a block are fundamentally the same as wheat.

No, I'm not joking. Carrots are underground roots and potatoes are underground tubers, and in the last stages they barely poke out. You could randomize the leaves above, but IMO that's not very interesting, and I probably wouldn't go any further than giving potatoes a more vine-like leafy plant like how they are in real life.

I understand random textures the most on building blocks and ores to stop tiling errors, and on grass and flowers to scenery.

Anyways, I'll try and post my results here.

Quote from monsterfisher

Thats what i did before but there have not been any change what so ever. So i assumed since it didnt work in either mcpatcher or optifine that its not supported, i even tried using terrain and block properties (with the correct id/tilenumber of course)

Quote from XSSheep

I look forward to seeing it if you get it working. I have 3 textures ready for wheat CTM but couldn't figure out how it worked!

Here's hoping you know what you're doing better than me...

So, I just tried it myself as well, with both MCpatched Minecraft and using Optifine in Minecraft, with using both the blockID, tileID, with metadata defined, and without. You are right, it doesn't work, not for carrots, potatoes, or wheat.

I even switched the names of the files to regular blocks, and it worked on those, so there are no code issues. Yet, it oddly worked for flowers and tall grass.

Also, SMP (who has done a pack with most everything CTMed) posted on both MCpatcher's thread and I think Optifine's thread as well.

Quote from SMP

Hey Kahr, is there any particular reason why CTM doesn't support the crops (wheat, carrots, potatoes, nether warts)? I've been working on randomization for them and it seems they just don't work in-game. It'd really make large farms look amazing.

I'm not sure if it has never worked, or maybe it did, but when Mojang implemented carrots and potatoes, they changed how they were rendered, and that's a possibility, because I think they were added with the wither, and that update broke quite a bit of things (paintings, transition icons, unknown_pack.png, ect.), all things that they added onto or changed....

I think that's it as I mentioned earlier that it worked for flowers and tall grass....

EDIT: I'm going to try optifine and 1.2.5 and random textures on wheat to test my guess/weak hypothesis

EDIT 2: Nope, not even in 1.2.5 :/

Quote from Numring

I have a problem related to CTM: I'm working on a spruce texture and created a .properties file for it. This is what I wrote:

source=/ctm/ctm-ordered.png

method=repeat
tiles=0-1 16-17
width=2
height=2
faces=all

It 'almost' works like a charm - while the texture is shown in game, only a quarter of it applies to one block.
Thus the resolution is only 16x while i made a 32x texture...




THankyou for reading this - I hope you'll have a solution

My first thought would be that the ctm image that the textures are on is still in 16x16 resolution (256x256), so even though you have 32x32 textures, 1 tile would be a quarter of it.