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How is progress going? I love the idea and would like this pretty soon. I hope it gets released soon.

Quote from BalkondeurAlpha

This is tremendous. Where did you get the source code of the old terrain generators? Did you backup every Minecraft version or something, or is it still in the code?

I used this:

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/800346-tool-mcnostalgia-201/

Be forewarned: It downgrades minecraft in every sense of the word. You get the old generator, but you also get any bugs/glitches/etc. that were still around up to the point you choose to downgrade to. There's about 50+ patches you can choose to downgrade to as well.

In finding which update you would like to select from it would be wise to use this page:
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Version_history_(disambiguation)

Quote from Var14ble

Honestly, while i do miss my old alpha worlds, some of the new generation code isnt so bad, i like rivers and ravines, but yeah sometimes i miss that amazing mountain i had in my backyard...
EDIT: Just a question though, would using a world generated with the alpha code mean you don't get end portals? or would that be somehow placed into the code? And also, if you don't get the end portals, would a world generated with an older code not include endermen?

If you used the old version of the game to generate terrain then the terrain generated with the old code would not have anything that was not implemented in minecraft after that point. For example, any alpha maps would not contain lapis lazuli, NPC villages, etc. Old variances in ore distribution and the like would also remain as they were at that point in the game (they have changed slightly over time; I find iron MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to come by nowadays, granted its also used for more things currently).

If you used MCNostalgia to downgrade to an alpha or beta build of Minecraft, generated a world using that version of the game's code, and then refreshed the game to its current form (Force Update should do the trick) then you would likely see Endermen everywhere you went since they spawn in darkness regardless of location given enough space. However the new stuff wouldn't be there. Strongholds and enderportals wouldn't be around, no NPC villages, no lapis lazuli, no birch or pine trees, etc. etc.

At least... Not so long as you stayed in the alpha-generated portion of your world. Should you venture into newly-generated chunks you would find all the latest terrain-dependent things again. This can have some peculiar consequences however. World upgrades from 1.7 to 1.8 have been known to produce very ugly-looking jumps and changes in terrain simply due to the changes in the world generator treating the same information differently, thus producing very different results (i.e. your forest may suddenly cut off in favor for an ocean given only a small lake at the start of the border; elevation differences between old and new may manifest as well).

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If you used the old version of the game to generate terrain then the terrain generated with the old code would not have anything that was not implemented in minecraft after that point. For example, any alpha maps would not contain lapis lazuli, NPC villages, etc. Old variances in ore distribution and the like would also remain as they were at that point in the game (they have changed slightly over time; I find iron MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to come by nowadays, granted its also used for more things currently).

If you used MCNostalgia to downgrade to an alpha or beta build of Minecraft, generated a world using that version of the game's code, and then refreshed the game to its current form (Force Update should do the trick) then you would likely see Endermen everywhere you went since they spawn in darkness regardless of location given enough space. However the new stuff wouldn't be there. Strongholds and enderportals wouldn't be around, no NPC villages, no lapis lazuli, no birch or pine trees, etc. etc.

At least... Not so long as you stayed in the alpha-generated portion of your world. Should you venture into newly-generated chunks you would find all the latest terrain-dependent things again. This can have some peculiar consequences however. World upgrades from 1.7 to 1.8 have been known to produce very ugly-looking jumps and changes in terrain simply due to the changes in the world generator treating the same information differently, thus producing very different results (i.e. your forest may suddenly cut off in favor for an ocean given only a small lake at the start of the border; elevation differences between old and new may manifest as well).

Well that's kind of a shame, as much as i like the old generation code, some of the new things added to the game are quite interesting...

Quote from ZAKK9090

If you used the old version of the game to generate terrain then the terrain generated with the old code would not have anything that was not implemented in minecraft after that point. For example, any alpha maps would not contain lapis lazuli, NPC villages, etc. Old variances in ore distribution and the like would also remain as they were at that point in the game (they have changed slightly over time; I find iron MUCH MUCH MUCH easier to come by nowadays, granted its also used for more things currently).

If you used MCNostalgia to downgrade to an alpha or beta build of Minecraft, generated a world using that version of the game's code, and then refreshed the game to its current form (Force Update should do the trick) then you would likely see Endermen everywhere you went since they spawn in darkness regardless of location given enough space. However the new stuff wouldn't be there. Strongholds and enderportals wouldn't be around, no NPC villages, no lapis lazuli, no birch or pine trees, etc. etc.

At least... Not so long as you stayed in the alpha-generated portion of your world. Should you venture into newly-generated chunks you would find all the latest terrain-dependent things again. This can have some peculiar consequences however. World upgrades from 1.7 to 1.8 have been known to produce very ugly-looking jumps and changes in terrain simply due to the changes in the world generator treating the same information differently, thus producing very different results (i.e. your forest may suddenly cut off in favor for an ocean given only a small lake at the start of the border; elevation differences between old and new may manifest as well).

Well I can tell you that whenever I get a working example running, This will all be working properly. Adding in all of this stuff is not going to be a problem as it is all called after the main generator. Honestly its all pretty much just copy and past until you want all of the world generators in one mod. Then you need a button to select different gens and then you need a way to keep the world genning that same code instead of changing it to the default. That is what is taking me so long otherwise I would already have this mod up and running.

This is exactly what I've been looking for since 1.8.

I really hope this goes somewhere! Next time I make a new world, it will be with this mod, coupled with a classic texture pack.

I really am waiting for this. Any ETA for the release of this? Sorry for asking so soon.

Great Idea, I always liked the old terrain generator, but I also like biomes system generator (Newer system).

Don't like this idea at all. It's stupid!

please continue the development of this i never got to fully experience the terrain generator as it grew up

Quote from ZAKK9090

Went and tried out MCNostalgia. Here's what I got after my fourth or fifth world right near the spawn:

Guessing you were playing Late Alpha? 1.2.x

Quote from Var14ble

Honestly, while i do miss my old alpha worlds, some of the new generation code isnt so bad, i like rivers and ravines, but yeah sometimes i miss that amazing mountain i had in my backyard...
EDIT: Just a question though, would using a world generated with the alpha code mean you don't get end portals? or would that be somehow placed into the code? And also, if you don't get the end portals, would a world generated with an older code not include endermen?

No portals in the old worlds, or at least as of now. There might be an option to toggle off new mobs like silverfish, endermen, and squids.

Rivers and ravines were a cool story bro IMO, but every other changes kinda offset my satisfaction.

Quote from JellyOpera

TL;DR:
1) Make an API.

That's one of my posted benefits for making this mod; an API with this mod would make this mod into a Modloader kinda thing and make the coder internet famous. Unless technical restrictions apply, count it in.

Quote from sam123486

I really am waiting for this. Any ETA for the release of this? Sorry for asking so soon.

Anywhere, really from days to a month or so.

Quote from quez1

Don't like this idea at all. It's stupid!

Says the guy who bought the game in 1.8 and has no clue how epic Alpha was.

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Don't like this idea at all. It's stupid!

Look how funny you're not.

Thank you so much for trying to do this. I hate the 1.0.0 terrain, it all looks the same.
But just look at this!

Quote from quez1

Don't like this idea at all. It's stupid!

Well you probably were not around during the fun days.

They only reason I would want this is for the sakes of Kurtjmac (been following him for a long time). :tongue.gif:

I'm fine with the new generation as is, but I guess going back to old style once in a while would be nice.

Quote from Savsam

I hate the 1.0.0 terrain, it all looks the same.

Um, no it does not. :huh.gif:

Quote from Segatendo

Um, no it does not. :huh.gif:

Yes it does. It's either hills, swamps, plains and forest. The old terrain would always be different.

I really like this idea! :biggrin.gif:

I miss old biomes and pre-Halloween Update terrain. 1.8 rewrite is really boring and flat. :sad.gif: It would be even better to have old terrain but with NPC villages, strongholds, etc .

This would be really cool this just reminds me of alpha... good old alpha

Even though I started Minecraft late (I started in late 1.7.3), I still miss the terrain of that version. It's too bad I accidently deleted my oldest world.

Hehe i remember i still have my compressed alpha 1.1 minecraft around somewhere, once i used it and generated a terrain and i couldnt believe how amazing it was... this was back in beta 1.5 i think...

Quote from UGoBoom

I looked at that and that mod looks really cool, might check it out. That mod only changes it to 3rd gen Terrain, nothing about the late alpha and beta terrain, which some people really love.

In other words, my want for this mod still stands.

I have the mod, and it allows me too.