@all: before comment saying useless things, read all the posts of the topic. This argument has already been discussed. And I'm not going against any rule (Copyright or minecraft forum rules).
We will remove the 'official' word when the first release will be avaible. It is used just to help people finding the biggest mod of star wars (and not just a pair of coloured items wich they call lightsabers...).
Anyway, we will post new images today, and maybe a new video :smile.gif:
HEY!!! seriues are you guys starting a gang or something pheeww!! if you read to the threat wich you obviously didn't do: AXELTOPPOLINO wrote:
Oh it's pretty sad. I've never noticed them! However I checked them: they aren't big mods (just some simple items or simple biped mobs with ores in a default minecraft world).
Ok, we think it's more correct remove Official, and we will copyright all the features of this mod ("Official" was usefull to not write all copyrights..).
This mod will be really different from the mods you linked, bigger, with new features, new systems to fight, SMP support, exc.
I hope you will try this mod to see how beautiful can be a star wars mod
Oh, and I also saw that you are one of the SW mods modders! You did a good work, but we are trying to do a more realistic Universe of star wars!
so NEXT time you write something stupid READ threw the threat!!!
-bumblebeejj134
And yet it still says official in the first post. So... yeah, pretty weak point for a flame, though they tend to be. As I said, I DIDN'T read it, and I didn't need to to see that the OP was entirely off. I get WHY they're doing it, and I assumed I wasn't the first to make the point, because it's an awfully large elephant crowded into a tiny room, thats the whole problem. I understand, they're trying to keep others from seeing their big hard worked SW mod and saying, "Hey, I could go do that!" and starting up a tangent instead of just maybe inquiring about and working on their team, helping to make one big mod, possibly splitting up whatever base they might have in the MC community and setting up a good 'ol fashioned fanboi war between the subscribers of several different mods.
I love how he kinda just casually dismissed the other mods tho . I'm sure they are small, most mc mods are because people tend to go out on their own rather than forming teams. Doesn't make that any less condescending, or your own comment any less rude for that matter. Personally, I tried to be very nice about my impression of this mod, despite my concerns, because it excited me to see what looked like it might become a full fledged SW mod - for instance I didn't mention that they left out one of the most important parts of SW, SPACE, and that another much larger mod is already doing it and infinitely further along on it. And even there I didn't say it like a fanboi (not really following the other mod, don't particularly care for their theme, I'm just happy to see real by-gods modding teams in the mc community as opposed to individuals no matter how talented just doing their own thing and creating a bunch of individual content with no cohesion between it b/c they don't have the free time on an individual basis to revamp whole systems) like you did when you flamed me and this other fellow above.
Common sense dictates that when making a claim like that, that you are 'official,' or that you are reserving the right to reproduce someone else' intellectual property (gah hate that whole concept but its still a fact of this silly world) inside someone else' gaming engine, its up to YOU, the OP, to make sure you, you know, aren't lying. Like I said I understand the motivation, but outrageous claims are more likely to put the fire under some other SW fan to try and outdo you/steal your thunder than being honest and just doing good work. Yeah, sure, you're supposed to read the whole thread, but as an OP you're supposed to update the original as well so that its not making totally unsupportable claims after someone points them out, even if you somehow missed the swiss-cheese logic beforehand. Not to just leave the claim up to hold the beachhead until you can land your troops.
The gnat here annoyed me, but in retrospect my original reaction was more out of worry than any real anger. I don't really have any desire to create a SW mod (its neat and all but nowhere near the top of my scifi/fantasy favorites list, I read like a crackhead burns his fingers) but I would LOVE to play one, or for that matter any well planned TC in MC, and the first thing I see in your post is a plea to assorted filthy stinking rich parties to crush you, and to every contentious modder out there to muddy up the waters. Like I said, I've seen it happen a couple times; consider Dragonball Quake, which was at its time one of the biggest q3 mods out there (other than maybe Urban Combat?) while it was still in development. I mean, for YEARS of development, for those who weren't into games back then the whole 'hear it, see it, get it' cycle on mods used to be a lot slower, I think MC's modding community is quite a bit more ginormous because the generation that got started gaming on consoles (or multiplayer gaming anyway, online gaming (that including the community as well as the servers, and the ability to get or create/distribute custom content without paying thru the ears to microsoft) are just now getting enough time under their belts that they're starting to see through the dumb old tricks most console games use and get bored with their flat uninteresting gameplay touched up with fancy shaders like the rest of us were when the dumdum boxes first got comm ports that could connect to the net and took over/ruined gaming for a decade. It used to be just for nerds, then everyone wanted to do it and the nerds who were also where the modders came from were overwhelmed and drowned under the waves and waves of gaming newbies who had all the standards and requirements of their game developers that a three dollar hooker does of her john, but now those folks are in the same spot that everyone else was when consoles kicked the much more flexible pc gaming scene in the gonads and drew off all the developers, sick and tired of playing a bunch of glorified quake and unreal mods that are nothin' but texture packs and lighting tricks laid atop a bunch of open source software. Now the giant console gen is starting to become gaming nerds as well, and even better a lot of them (specially with games like mc out there) are becoming modders :biggrin.gif:
Anyway, Dragonball Quake didn't claim to be official, at least so far as I remember. They weren't the only game in town but they had the lead by leagues - something like three or four million fans on their forums, you couldn't make a post without it disappearing down the lists before your computer even refreshed the forum, and the nearest competitor hardly had any activity at all - and they still didn't go so far as to call themselves official (its been years and the whole thing was a massive disappointment tho so mebbe I wiped it from my mind heh). Didn't really matter, tho, because when they were nearing release Funimation, the company that owns the copyright to DBZ in America, sicked their lawyers on them and buried them beneath threats and suits and the project capsized almost overnight. They had a great game by those terms, they had done some things mechanics wise which many didn't even think you should be able to do w/ quake, but in the end after a lot of drama (some funny some not, one of the guys faked suicide in some posts I suppose to scare Funi off but it didn't have much effect lul) the guys ended up just releasing the early beta code with the character/location names and models tweaked just enough not to model copyright then they leaked a patch that contained all the original art/labels so people could easily fix it. It was a fun mod, it had lots of promise, but despite millions of fans you could hardly find a server with more than one or two guys tooling around, and they mostly talking about the drama and not actually playing. The development team just more or less disappeared for a while, I dunno what happened after, because I like pretty much everyone else quit the community and went onto other mods (heh, one of those I followed next is STILL in development without a release :tongue.gif: Took valve less time than that to turn the quake engine into the source engine).
They don't even have to beat you to ruin your project, they don't have to stop you from using the mechanics, they don't have to do anything but poke the anthill just the right way and you're screwed even if you don't end up having to declare bankruptcy. I highly doubt LucasArts is as big of a bunch of tools as funimation (seeing as they are actually makers of content and Funi are just a bunch of talentless hacks who make money off putting bad dubs on someone else' cartoons) but you still shouldn't bend over and hang an "insert boot here" sign over your ****.
Just my opinion though, gaming being a popular thing these days I don't know if some megacorp would risk the same kind of move with the possibility of a huge backlash and even media coverage. Funi did it to the DBQ team because they were about to release the first of their little cell-shaded dragonball games (wouldn't be surprised if they actually started putting money into those things because they saw the community DBQ drew) and they wanted to preserve their monopoly because I suppose it was a risky venture or they were just greedy a-holes. Either way even if you're not making a dime off it, you're never safe in matters like these. I would love to see your mod completed, and making claims like this makes it less likely not more so. Saying 'its fixed on page x' would only have any bearing if there were no edit function, and certainly has even less here where it is well established custom for modders to treat their initial post as a status update.
Anyway good luck to the OP, hope you do something good with it. To the fanboi who was talking trash, well all I can say is lul. Have fun with your kiddo. Perhaps if instead of only finding self-justification in mindlessly supporting those entities you muddily judge to be worthy you went out and actually tried doing something yourself you would discover that you have it in you to be worthy of your own accord, as more than just another set of lungs and torch holdin' hands in the mob. Even Einstein was stupid by all modern methods of qualification until he got the 'education' system out of his veins and decided to try instead to grow his own mind instead of just consuming what others told him.
HEY!!! seriues are you guys starting a gang or something pheeww!!
Uh, ganging up? We had the same thought independently and he simply was the first to voice it, so I agreed with him. Don't jump to conclusions.
This mod will be really different from the mods you linked, bigger, with new features, new systems to fight, SMP support, exc.
The only Star-Wars mod I linked was the lightsabre one and it's JUST a lightsabre mod...not even trying to be anything close to the scale of what you guys are doing. You criticised me for not reading the whole thread, but you don't seem to have really read my post either. As for that:
Yeah, sure, you're supposed to read the whole thread, but as an OP you're supposed to update the original as well so that its not making totally unsupportable claims after someone points them out, even if you somehow missed the swiss-cheese logic beforehand.
Yeah, sorry for not reading the whole thread. It was late and I didn't feel like reading through 12 pages just to make a few suggestions. My post was in response to the OP. If you want to keep people from posting ideas that have already been suggested, maybe you should update the OP to include those ideas you plan on implementing rather than just saying something is "x%" done.
when axel said that the new year will bring the release i think he meant that the mod will be released soon in 2012 not on new years eve so just calm down a bit
Honestly cannot wait for this mod to be released. This is already shaping up to be on of the coolest things coming to Minecraft. Now we just need to figure out a way to make space maps.
Honestly cannot wait for this mod to be released. This is already shaping up to be on of the coolest things coming to Minecraft. Now we just need to figure out a way to make space maps.
We have already started working around space maps :smile.gif: It's not impossible to do, but we will firstly make the main features.
when axel said that the new year will bring the release i think he meant that the mod will be released soon in 2012 not on new years eve so just calm down a bit
We will remove the 'official' word when the first release will be avaible. It is used just to help people finding the biggest mod of star wars (and not just a pair of coloured items wich they call lightsabers...).
Anyway, we will post new images today, and maybe a new video :smile.gif:
And yet it still says official in the first post. So... yeah, pretty weak point for a flame, though they tend to be. As I said, I DIDN'T read it, and I didn't need to to see that the OP was entirely off. I get WHY they're doing it, and I assumed I wasn't the first to make the point, because it's an awfully large elephant crowded into a tiny room, thats the whole problem. I understand, they're trying to keep others from seeing their big hard worked SW mod and saying, "Hey, I could go do that!" and starting up a tangent instead of just maybe inquiring about and working on their team, helping to make one big mod, possibly splitting up whatever base they might have in the MC community and setting up a good 'ol fashioned fanboi war between the subscribers of several different mods.
I love how he kinda just casually dismissed the other mods tho
Common sense dictates that when making a claim like that, that you are 'official,' or that you are reserving the right to reproduce someone else' intellectual property (gah hate that whole concept but its still a fact of this silly world) inside someone else' gaming engine, its up to YOU, the OP, to make sure you, you know, aren't lying. Like I said I understand the motivation, but outrageous claims are more likely to put the fire under some other SW fan to try and outdo you/steal your thunder than being honest and just doing good work. Yeah, sure, you're supposed to read the whole thread, but as an OP you're supposed to update the original as well so that its not making totally unsupportable claims after someone points them out, even if you somehow missed the swiss-cheese logic beforehand. Not to just leave the claim up to hold the beachhead until you can land your troops.
The gnat here annoyed me, but in retrospect my original reaction was more out of worry than any real anger. I don't really have any desire to create a SW mod (its neat and all but nowhere near the top of my scifi/fantasy favorites list, I read like a crackhead burns his fingers) but I would LOVE to play one, or for that matter any well planned TC in MC, and the first thing I see in your post is a plea to assorted filthy stinking rich parties to crush you, and to every contentious modder out there to muddy up the waters. Like I said, I've seen it happen a couple times; consider Dragonball Quake, which was at its time one of the biggest q3 mods out there (other than maybe Urban Combat?) while it was still in development. I mean, for YEARS of development, for those who weren't into games back then the whole 'hear it, see it, get it' cycle on mods used to be a lot slower, I think MC's modding community is quite a bit more ginormous because the generation that got started gaming on consoles (or multiplayer gaming anyway, online gaming (that including the community as well as the servers, and the ability to get or create/distribute custom content without paying thru the ears to microsoft) are just now getting enough time under their belts that they're starting to see through the dumb old tricks most console games use and get bored with their flat uninteresting gameplay touched up with fancy shaders like the rest of us were when the dumdum boxes first got comm ports that could connect to the net and took over/ruined gaming for a decade. It used to be just for nerds, then everyone wanted to do it and the nerds who were also where the modders came from were overwhelmed and drowned under the waves and waves of gaming newbies who had all the standards and requirements of their game developers that a three dollar hooker does of her john, but now those folks are in the same spot that everyone else was when consoles kicked the much more flexible pc gaming scene in the gonads and drew off all the developers, sick and tired of playing a bunch of glorified quake and unreal mods that are nothin' but texture packs and lighting tricks laid atop a bunch of open source software. Now the giant console gen is starting to become gaming nerds as well, and even better a lot of them (specially with games like mc out there) are becoming modders :biggrin.gif:
Anyway, Dragonball Quake didn't claim to be official, at least so far as I remember. They weren't the only game in town but they had the lead by leagues - something like three or four million fans on their forums, you couldn't make a post without it disappearing down the lists before your computer even refreshed the forum, and the nearest competitor hardly had any activity at all - and they still didn't go so far as to call themselves official (its been years and the whole thing was a massive disappointment tho so mebbe I wiped it from my mind heh). Didn't really matter, tho, because when they were nearing release Funimation, the company that owns the copyright to DBZ in America, sicked their lawyers on them and buried them beneath threats and suits and the project capsized almost overnight. They had a great game by those terms, they had done some things mechanics wise which many didn't even think you should be able to do w/ quake, but in the end after a lot of drama (some funny some not, one of the guys faked suicide in some posts I suppose to scare Funi off but it didn't have much effect lul) the guys ended up just releasing the early beta code with the character/location names and models tweaked just enough not to model copyright then they leaked a patch that contained all the original art/labels so people could easily fix it. It was a fun mod, it had lots of promise, but despite millions of fans you could hardly find a server with more than one or two guys tooling around, and they mostly talking about the drama and not actually playing. The development team just more or less disappeared for a while, I dunno what happened after, because I like pretty much everyone else quit the community and went onto other mods (heh, one of those I followed next is STILL in development without a release :tongue.gif: Took valve less time than that to turn the quake engine into the source engine).
They don't even have to beat you to ruin your project, they don't have to stop you from using the mechanics, they don't have to do anything but poke the anthill just the right way and you're screwed even if you don't end up having to declare bankruptcy. I highly doubt LucasArts is as big of a bunch of tools as funimation (seeing as they are actually makers of content and Funi are just a bunch of talentless hacks who make money off putting bad dubs on someone else' cartoons) but you still shouldn't bend over and hang an "insert boot here" sign over your ****.
Just my opinion though, gaming being a popular thing these days I don't know if some megacorp would risk the same kind of move with the possibility of a huge backlash and even media coverage. Funi did it to the DBQ team because they were about to release the first of their little cell-shaded dragonball games (wouldn't be surprised if they actually started putting money into those things because they saw the community DBQ drew) and they wanted to preserve their monopoly because I suppose it was a risky venture or they were just greedy a-holes. Either way even if you're not making a dime off it, you're never safe in matters like these. I would love to see your mod completed, and making claims like this makes it less likely not more so. Saying 'its fixed on page x' would only have any bearing if there were no edit function, and certainly has even less here where it is well established custom for modders to treat their initial post as a status update.
Anyway good luck to the OP, hope you do something good with it. To the fanboi who was talking trash, well all I can say is lul. Have fun with your
Uh, ganging up? We had the same thought independently and he simply was the first to voice it, so I agreed with him. Don't jump to conclusions.
The only Star-Wars mod I linked was the lightsabre one and it's JUST a lightsabre mod...not even trying to be anything close to the scale of what you guys are doing. You criticised me for not reading the whole thread, but you don't seem to have really read my post either. As for that:
Yeah, sorry for not reading the whole thread. It was late and I didn't feel like reading through 12 pages just to make a few suggestions. My post was in response to the OP. If you want to keep people from posting ideas that have already been suggested, maybe you should update the OP to include those ideas you plan on implementing rather than just saying something is "x%" done.
I'm happy you like it, it will be ready really soon!
Eh, we live in a different timezone and UK isn't all the world :wink.gif:
Sure :smile.gif:
happy new year everyone :biggrin.gif:
We have already started working around space maps :smile.gif: It's not impossible to do, but we will firstly make the main features.
Exactly
This new vehicle is really fast, has a custom inventory, a slot for the fuel, a turbo mode, 2 brakes and it shoots laser!
We want to know if you like this new feature!
Oh yes, there will be Tie and X-Wing!
Is this mod gonna have multiplayer?