I get kinda mad when i see *those* websites say certain mods (that clearly aren't updated to *insert new version here* yet) work on *insert new version here*, just to make more money using adf.ly and stuff like that. Anyway, well done, definitely deserves a sticky!
I get kinda mad when i see *those* websites say certain mods (that clearly aren't updated to *insert new version here* yet) work on *insert new version here*, just to make more money using adf.ly and stuff like that. Anyway, well done, definitely deserves a sticky!
Thanks! Also, it would be best if the thread was stickied in the mods section, as some users may not be looking here.
I've contributed to some open-source mods and have written multiple mods for personal/private use. I have first-hand experience with litigation involving some of the licenses in this thread, and with software and content licensing in general.
Writing a license agreement without the help of qualified experts may end in disaster. A former colleague modified a licensing agreement himself, but was convinced to run it by a lawyer before using it. The lawyer changed one word. Later, that single word change saved the colleague from a 7-figure licensing-related dispute.
Copyright law has a lot of teeth, and DMCA takedowns are very powerful. Laws around distribution, like wrapping a mod in an installer, or repackaging it in some way, may fall entirely under copyright. Laws around linking are much less clear, especially outside the US. Linking by some methods such as adfly wrappers may fall under the terms of service of those sites.
I'm all for getting real legal help to draft a license, but lawyers are expensive, and none of us are rich. How would we pay for a lawyer? Maybe the EFF would help us?
I remember these: Kept seeing these sites posting 'updated' versions of my mods before they were actually done, back when I was actively modding. They also tended to still use my bit.ly links, which was nice since you could see it was coming from X site. Check out the refers on the last updated version of GuiAPI (which is to my great surprise still getting ~200 clicks a day): https://bitly.com/18A0dhM (note it seems MCF doesn't want to include the + at the end for stats for whatever reason so copy and paste it and then type it in at the end.) A good chunk are coming from rehosting sites, or aggregators, with over 3000 coming from adf.ly: I guess they were too lazy to actually download the file and host it themselves.
I have found these sites quite helpful before though. A mod that I used to enjoy that had become outdated, the download link no longer worked. Lucky there was a 'mirror' of it on one of these sites!
For the most part though, as a modder myself, I completely agree with you.
Stealing money. When many people download from those sites instead of the official sites, the author loses revenue. Modders don't earn much from their mods, but small amounts of money can be a big motivation.
As per the Mojang EULA, modders are prohibited from making monetary profit from their mods. The rest of your post I agree with, but this should be a non-factor.
As per the Mojang EULA, modders are prohibited from making monetary profit from their mods. The rest of your post I agree with, but this should be a non-factor.
Actually, no. The EULA prohibits selling mods, but not AdFly and similarities. It means nothing for me, but another modder I know need a new computer very soon, and even small amounts can help him.
It think it would help if some popular youtubers put the word out there. Not sure about others, but I use them whenever I'm interested in a mod. Ex. PopularMMO's
I'm a close friend with a buddy of mine who released a mod about 3 months ago. His name is GustoniaEagle, and the mod in question is Adventurer's Amulets, which adds lot of bauble goodies. But that doesn't matter.
Within 1 week of release I found 6 sites which had his mod [illegally] distributed on their sites. Within 2 weeks it jumped up to 9. There may have been more, but at that point I did not want to look up any more.
The main culprit was 9minecraft, which is well known for illegally re-distributing mods and also falsely stating that mods work for an un-supported version. It also was outdated by about 2 [fairly large release] versions.
This largely upset me, as my buddy had literally JUST released his mod, and immediately sites start re-distributing it illegally.
As a fellow mod author looking to release a mod in the future, I hope that I don't have to worry about these sites at all.
I'm in full support of this movement. Long live #StopModReposts!
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Curse PremiumThanks! Also, it would be best if the thread was stickied in the mods section, as some users may not be looking here.
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Curse PremiumI'm all for getting real legal help to draft a license, but lawyers are expensive, and none of us are rich. How would we pay for a lawyer? Maybe the EFF would help us?
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Curse PremiumNow it has 6 pages! Congrats @CoolSquid
I don't have a Twitter account, but I'll still support this to the end! #StopModReposts
Also, it appears as though 9minecraft has started removing "This is illegal" comments...
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Curse PremiumThat's censorship! :/
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Curse PremiumI'm surprised they didn't start earlier. Btw, I was literally asked for private information in their comments section.
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Curse PremiumLink to comments section?
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Curse Premiumhttps://disqus.com/home/discussion/9minecraft/special_attacks_mod_164/
For the most part though, as a modder myself, I completely agree with you.
As per the Mojang EULA, modders are prohibited from making monetary profit from their mods. The rest of your post I agree with, but this should be a non-factor.
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Curse PremiumActually, no. The EULA prohibits selling mods, but not AdFly and similarities. It means nothing for me, but another modder I know need a new computer very soon, and even small amounts can help him.
GeForce is a moderator, not an admin. He can't sticky posts, but talked to the MnM admin about it.
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Curse PremiumWithin 1 week of release I found 6 sites which had his mod [illegally] distributed on their sites. Within 2 weeks it jumped up to 9. There may have been more, but at that point I did not want to look up any more.
The main culprit was 9minecraft, which is well known for illegally re-distributing mods and also falsely stating that mods work for an un-supported version. It also was outdated by about 2 [fairly large release] versions.
This largely upset me, as my buddy had literally JUST released his mod, and immediately sites start re-distributing it illegally.
As a fellow mod author looking to release a mod in the future, I hope that I don't have to worry about these sites at all.
I'm in full support of this movement. Long live #StopModReposts!
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Curse PremiumIt also looks like it re-distributes minecraft.jar files :/
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