Great mod, finally was able to dump Factorization as the only reason I used it was for the their Barrels.
I went for a more subtle approach to distinguishing the different barrel types. Used the texture pack from a Sphax Factorization pack and added a small gold dot.
Ten hours?
Imagine what masterpiece you'd make in a weekend.
BC Hoppers, maybe?
In all seriousness, Factorization only uses 3 block IDs. If you don't like certain things about it, don't use them. (Also, how can you not love wrath lamps?)
In all seriousness, Factorization only uses 3 block IDs. If you don't like certain things about it, don't use them. (Also, how can you not love wrath lamps?)
There is an advantage to using my mod then Factorization all together.
A) Less buggy. There are a couple of bugs the Factorization barrels have. Some of witch are that when you upgrade a Factorization barrel, other players looking at the barrel won't see the upgrade. Second, when breaking a Factorization barrel, the particle affects are the wrong image.
Factorization is more laggy then just having a stand-alone barrels mod. Since Factorization adds all of these other blocks, it will lag your game more.
C) Factorization adds a new ore which many people don't like (like me).
It's not all about how many block ID's use, you gotta look at the other stuff.
All of the people saying you copied Factorization, and that you should be reported, are wrong and stupid. He said he didn't use any of the code from Factorization. So his mod is perfectly fine. He is not distributing anything from Factorization, and simply took an idea and made it better. Saying he should be reported for copying Factorization is like saying all "Mo' Ores" mods should be reported because they copied the first mod that was solely based on adding more ores. So shut up, enjoy the mod, and use common sense before you post. Now about the mod, I think it's great. It's better than Factorization's barrels for reasons you already explained (a few posts above), and it's cleaner. Great mod!!
So, I noticed somebody trying to "report" this mod in the Factorization thread. Maybe it would be a good idea to link to the post where you posted there saying you would take your mod down if the creator had a problem, just so people know you already told him about it?
You could have sidestepped this whole mess by simply renaming the objects to "Storage Crates" or something like that AND making them look different. The fact that you duplicated a major part of an established mod is certainly not illegal....but it's disrespectful and tacky. If I made a mod that ONLY stole Thaumcraft 3's golem workers (even if I did completely re-code it myself), I would at least have the decency to call them something else and make it a "little" bit different. And I'd prob give the original author a heads up as well.
And when you actually state things like this:
"I started to remove mods that really aren’t that great, Including Factorization."
That makes it 10x worse. You could have just stated "I only wanted to use that particular part of the mod" and left it at that. You're not going to make ANY friends in this modding community with statements like that. Especially slamming other established mods that have a following.
Tact dude. TACT. Change it up a little bit and be classy. You may not think it's a big deal, but it IS a big deal. If you start writing songs and decide to rip off somebody else's guitar solo note for note, no you may not get sued. But the respect levels will be zero. And that should mean something. Adding something useful to the mod community is awesome. Adding something while acting like a gigantic butt-hole is NOT awesome.
You could have sidestepped this whole mess by simply renaming the objects to "Storage Crates" or something like that AND making them look different. The fact that you duplicated a major part of an established mod is certainly not illegal....but it's disrespectful and tacky. If I made a mod that ONLY stole Thaumcraft 3's golem workers (even if I did completely re-code it myself), I would at least have the decency to call them something else and make it a "little" bit different. And I'd prob give the original author a heads up as well.
And when you actually state things like this:
That makes it 10x worse. You could have just stated "I only wanted to use that particular part of the mod" and left it at that. You're not going to make ANY friends in this modding community with statements like that. Especially slamming other established mods that have a following.
Tact dude. TACT. Change it up a little bit and be classy. You may not think it's a big deal, but it IS a big deal. If you start writing songs and decide to rip off somebody else's guitar solo note for note, no you may not get sued. But the respect levels will be zero. And that should mean something. Adding something useful to the mod community is awesome. Adding something while acting like a gigantic butt-hole is NOT awesome.
I always love people who just can't be quite. I only posted this mod for other people who desire the same thing ad me. When I started to create this mod, I only though I was going to use it for my own private server. Keep on punching your luck kid. Once you push it, your going to ruin everybody's fun who actually enjoy this mod. That's not cool man.
I recently dropped Factorization myself for the very same reason.
Just ignore the detractors, you have done something that Neptune has been asked for repeatedly and refused to do. If all the work here is indeed your own, and you can weather the storm no doubt coming your way then I will certainly add this mod to my own list.
One question: Are you going to mirror Factorization? Like if they add a new barrel or new barrel function you will add it also? Or will you go your own way and add new things as you see fit? If it's the latter, a few suggestions:
1. Make a new barrel that does exactly what the Ender Barrel does now.
2. Make the Ender Barrel into a barrel that can be accessed in any dimension. Kind of like an enderchest.
I always love people who just can't be quite. I only posted this mod for other people who desire the same thing ad me. When I started to create this mod, I only though I was going to use it for my own private server. Keep on punching your luck kid. Once you push it, your going to ruin everybody's fun who actually enjoy this mod. That's not cool man.
Here, let me fix this for you: I always love people who just can't be quite quiet. I only posted this mod for other people who desire the same thing ad as me. When I started to create this mod, I only though thought I was going to use it for my own private server. Keep on punching pushing your luck kid man (I'm 39). Once you push it, your you're going to ruin everybody's fun who actually enjoy enjoys this mod. That's not cool man.
It doesn't matter if you're posting it for your own private server or not. These are the exact same forums used by all the big mod superstar devs in the Minecraft community. And it's a public medium. Have you even stopped and thought for two seconds what it would be like to actually BE Factorization's author and see this? It's just tacky man. Nobody should have to tell you that. It should be a given. Nobody in this community is competing for money. But nobody should ever have to compete over their ideas getting completely ripped off. You can have the last word as I'm out of this thread.....but I hope to God if you do continue your modding hobby that you can at least be a bit respectful for the guys and girls in our community that bust their butts to give us awesome stuff for free.
Don't let all the detractors get you down. Barrels aren't exactly unique to Factorization any more than new ores are unique to Redpower or chests are the sole property of cpw.
Eloraam, the author of Redpower2, had a few things to say on "stealing" ideas:
Here, let me fix this for you: I always love people who just can't be quite quiet. I only posted this mod for other people who desire the same thing ad as me. When I started to create this mod, I only though thought I was going to use it for my own private server. Keep on punching pushing your luck kid man (I'm 39). Once you push it, your you're going to ruin everybody's fun who actually enjoy enjoys this mod. That's not cool man.
It doesn't matter if you're posting it for your own private server or not. These are the exact same forums used by all the big mod superstar devs in the Minecraft community. And it's a public medium. Have you even stopped and thought for two seconds what it would be like to actually BE Factorization's author and see this? It's just tacky man. Nobody should have to tell you that. It should be a given. Nobody in this community is competing for money. But nobody should ever have to compete over their ideas getting completely ripped off. You can have the last word as I'm out of this thread.....but I hope to God if you do continue your modding hobby that you can at least be a bit respectful for the guys and girls in our community that bust their butts to give us awesome stuff for free.
I won't wait for anyone's permission if they haven't logged on the the forums for the start of January. If I were to wait until he logged on (if ever) the mod would not likely go public. Also, it seams that the Factorization guy would just shrug off my request. Better release the mod now, then wait for neptunepink's conformation.
Here, let me fix this for you: I always love people who just can't be quite quiet. I only posted this mod for other people who desire the same thing ad as me. When I started to create this mod, I only though thought I was going to use it for my own private server. Keep on punching pushing your luck kid man (I'm 39). Once you push it, your you're going to ruin everybody's fun who actually enjoy enjoys this mod. That's not cool man.
It doesn't matter if you're posting it for your own private server or not. These are the exact same forums used by all the big mod superstar devs in the Minecraft community. And it's a public medium. Have you even stopped and thought for two seconds what it would be like to actually BE Factorization's author and see this? It's just tacky man. Nobody should have to tell you that. It should be a given. Nobody in this community is competing for money. But nobody should ever have to compete over their ideas getting completely ripped off. You can have the last word as I'm out of this thread.....but I hope to God if you do continue your modding hobby that you can at least be a bit respectful for the guys and girls in our community that bust their butts to give us awesome stuff for free.
I won't wait for anyone's permission if they haven't logged on the the forums for the start of January. If I were to wait until he logged on (if ever) the mod would not likely go public. Also, it seams that the Factorization guy would just shrug off my request. Better release the mod now, then wait for neptunepink's conformation.
First off Yes I agree STEALING is bad... But as someone that's been a Minecraft owner for will since it cost FIVE DOLLARS.... I think I can say a few things....
1. Stealing in this context is kinda a gray area.... First off Mods belong to Mojang.... Not the Mod Creator...
That said... Stealing a mod requires me NOT TO GIVE CREDIT.
2. ALOT of Mods can be coded EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.... Its Code...
some things are JUST WRITTEN THAT WAY. I cannot OWN the way i sit on the toilet and take a poo...
I cannot get upset if someone else Wipes there butt just like i do.
3. Mods SHOULD BE OPEN SOURCE.... This is not about Paypal People... EVERYTHING DOES NOT HAVE TO REVOLVE AROUND MONEY, PRIDE, and or this ME ME ME or this I'm better than so and so attitude.... Its all Mojangs people... Its NOT YOURS.... and the Point in MODDING is to to be a Mod star DIVA....
DIVA's are Ego driven Pompous Arrogant Jerks, Messed up shallow B!@t%'s and Tired old Drag queens...
All of them HORDING the Understanding they have gained of MOJANGS Code base to look cooler than everyone else...
They don't WANT open source cause then someone could LEARN and make things BETTER then Them.
4. Go browse through the AWESOME mods we had back in 1.2.5 and before back into 1.1 and older....
Look at how many GREAT things were made and then abandoned by there Creator. If something is abandoned... i.e. the Creator has not logged on or responded in Months and Months... and so being the Mod in question has not been updated. well I would Rather see someone take the initiative and bring it back from near obscurity....
Last on this RANT... You Nightmoore a few posts back started nailing into this person about being Tacky and a jerk... Well I think you need to read your own posts cause all i took from what you have said is your a JERK. Sure something could be and in the interest of the "Community" (That's not so much a true community at all as its segregated like High school around here, with all the same BS) Something needed to be said about the way he Posted...
But You with your MASSIVE 53 posts and your CONTROL of the English language have taken it upon yourself to police mods.... Dude its a CONTAINER MOD.... Its not freaking RedPower or Smartmoving or any of a number of mods the the Creator REALLY WROTE NEW AND COMPLEX CODE FOR....
You did not have to be Mean and Nasy in your attitude...
You did not have to be sooo aggressive about something that really is not much your business...
as a 30+ year old man I can say....
YOU need to GROW UP and act your age be mature, be HELPFUL not harmful.
You could have nicely said hey buckaroo this is awesome you did this but.... and much of what you have posted COULD have been done in PM's so that the WHOLE COMMUNITY did not have to hear all the nasty nasty....
Your not being a better part of the Community by attacking someone who was
1. Honestly being helpful,
2. Not once claiming that it was COMPLETELY his work.
3. a newbie, and it seems SO ARE YOU.
Take a step back, Lay off the Espresso... Pet a Dog, play with a child, do something fun and uplifting cause you need to RELAX.
Now as for this mod..... Thanks... This is cute. a Simple, Functional, piece of a collection of stuff I as well have little use for... Thanks!
I would Suggest cleaning up the language playing a little nicer with others and CHANGING THE GRAPHICS... lol Blah yukies those you have hurt my eyes...
Here I made these this morning just for you. Use them Alter them whatever...
1. Stealing in this context is kinda a gray area.... First off Mods belong to Mojang.... Not the Mod Creator...
That said... Stealing a mod requires me NOT TO GIVE CREDIT.
Plugins for the game also belong to you and you can do whatever you want with them, as long as you don't sell them for money. We reserve the final say regarding what constitutes a tool/plugin and what doesn't.
In other words, unless mojang changes the tos, mod authors own their mods.
I don't have against this mod, I'm just saying just you should know the facts before you say something like that.
3. Mods SHOULD BE OPEN SOURCE.... This is not about Paypal People... EVERYTHING DOES NOT HAVE TO REVOLVE AROUND MONEY, PRIDE, and or this ME ME ME or this I'm better than so and so attitude.... Its all Mojangs people... Its NOT YOURS.... and the Point in MODDING is to to be a Mod star DIVA....
DIVA's are Ego driven Pompous Arrogant Jerks, Messed up shallow B!@t%'s and Tired old Drag queens...
All of them HORDING the Understanding they have gained of MOJANGS Code base to look cooler than everyone else...
They don't WANT open source cause then someone could LEARN and make things BETTER then Them.
And another thing, I've put literally hundreds of hours into metallurgy, and even that pales in comparison to how much work others have put into their mods. And you say the "should" give that away. When you've put that much work into something (something you legally own), it's your right to do what you want with it, no one else should be able to tell you otherwise. Now metallurgy is open source, I have no problems with that, but no one can tell me that I'm not entitled to do what I want with something I've put this much time into.
Eff the haters. I want more barrels, more storage options, and better integration. If you can bring it, then I say go for it. Factorization won't lose anyone as they're supported by FTB, and they still have plenty of other great tools included.
Question - Are the barrels able to stack items when piped in from all sides, or just from the top like Factorization? That'll be the deciding factor for me. I hate that I can only pipe in from the top.
I think you'll lose a lot of haters if you change up the textures, and I agree to a larger difference in colors/contrast from the different types of barrels. Even the barrels from factorization have this issue. I can hardly tell upgraded barrels from the others.
More barrel ideas:
- Larger storage (fully diamond barrels/diamond block barrels?)
- Ender Barrels
- Liquid Storage Barrels
- Barrels that suck up items that fall near them
- Specialized barrels (Barrels made for food, ores, or specific other items and tools)
- XP Barrels (Storage bank for XP levels)
- Connectable barrels (Create a tower of barrels and they share and expand the inventory)
Just throwin some ideas out there if you want to implement them!
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Eh, the sizes are fine. Liquid storage barrels would be cool. Barrels should be barrels, keep it that way. Don't add magical actions to them (xp bank, sucking items, connectable).
I went for a more subtle approach to distinguishing the different barrel types. Used the texture pack from a Sphax Factorization pack and added a small gold dot.
BC Hoppers, maybe?
In all seriousness, Factorization only uses 3 block IDs. If you don't like certain things about it, don't use them. (Also, how can you not love wrath lamps?)
A) Less buggy. There are a couple of bugs the Factorization barrels have. Some of witch are that when you upgrade a Factorization barrel, other players looking at the barrel won't see the upgrade. Second, when breaking a Factorization barrel, the particle affects are the wrong image.
Factorization is more laggy then just having a stand-alone barrels mod. Since Factorization adds all of these other blocks, it will lag your game more.
C) Factorization adds a new ore which many people don't like (like me).
It's not all about how many block ID's use, you gotta look at the other stuff.
And when you actually state things like this:
That makes it 10x worse. You could have just stated "I only wanted to use that particular part of the mod" and left it at that. You're not going to make ANY friends in this modding community with statements like that. Especially slamming other established mods that have a following.
Tact dude. TACT. Change it up a little bit and be classy. You may not think it's a big deal, but it IS a big deal. If you start writing songs and decide to rip off somebody else's guitar solo note for note, no you may not get sued. But the respect levels will be zero. And that should mean something. Adding something useful to the mod community is awesome. Adding something while acting like a gigantic butt-hole is NOT awesome.
Just ignore the detractors, you have done something that Neptune has been asked for repeatedly and refused to do. If all the work here is indeed your own, and you can weather the storm no doubt coming your way then I will certainly add this mod to my own list.
1. Make a new barrel that does exactly what the Ender Barrel does now.
2. Make the Ender Barrel into a barrel that can be accessed in any dimension. Kind of like an enderchest.
Here, let me fix this for you:
I always love people who just can't be
quitequiet. I only posted this mod for other people who desire the same thingadas me. When I started to create this mod, I onlythoughthought I was going to use it for my own private server. Keep onpunchingpushing your luckkidman (I'm 39). Once you push it,youryou're going to ruin everybody's fun who actuallyenjoyenjoys this mod. That's not cool man.It doesn't matter if you're posting it for your own private server or not. These are the exact same forums used by all the big mod superstar devs in the Minecraft community. And it's a public medium. Have you even stopped and thought for two seconds what it would be like to actually BE Factorization's author and see this? It's just tacky man. Nobody should have to tell you that. It should be a given. Nobody in this community is competing for money. But nobody should ever have to compete over their ideas getting completely ripped off. You can have the last word as I'm out of this thread.....but I hope to God if you do continue your modding hobby that you can at least be a bit respectful for the guys and girls in our community that bust their butts to give us awesome stuff for free.
Eloraam, the author of Redpower2, had a few things to say on "stealing" ideas:
http://www.eloraam.com/blog/2011/12/11/on-copying/
First off Yes I agree STEALING is bad... But as someone that's been a Minecraft owner for will since it cost FIVE DOLLARS.... I think I can say a few things....
1. Stealing in this context is kinda a gray area.... First off Mods belong to Mojang.... Not the Mod Creator...
That said... Stealing a mod requires me NOT TO GIVE CREDIT.
2. ALOT of Mods can be coded EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.... Its Code...
some things are JUST WRITTEN THAT WAY. I cannot OWN the way i sit on the toilet and take a poo...
I cannot get upset if someone else Wipes there butt just like i do.
3. Mods SHOULD BE OPEN SOURCE.... This is not about Paypal People... EVERYTHING DOES NOT HAVE TO REVOLVE AROUND MONEY, PRIDE, and or this ME ME ME or this I'm better than so and so attitude.... Its all Mojangs people... Its NOT YOURS.... and the Point in MODDING is to to be a Mod star DIVA....
DIVA's are Ego driven Pompous Arrogant Jerks, Messed up shallow B!@t%'s and Tired old Drag queens...
All of them HORDING the Understanding they have gained of MOJANGS Code base to look cooler than everyone else...
They don't WANT open source cause then someone could LEARN and make things BETTER then Them.
4. Go browse through the AWESOME mods we had back in 1.2.5 and before back into 1.1 and older....
Look at how many GREAT things were made and then abandoned by there Creator. If something is abandoned... i.e. the Creator has not logged on or responded in Months and Months... and so being the Mod in question has not been updated. well I would Rather see someone take the initiative and bring it back from near obscurity....
Last on this RANT... You Nightmoore a few posts back started nailing into this person about being Tacky and a jerk... Well I think you need to read your own posts cause all i took from what you have said is your a JERK. Sure something could be and in the interest of the "Community" (That's not so much a true community at all as its segregated like High school around here, with all the same BS) Something needed to be said about the way he Posted...
But You with your MASSIVE 53 posts and your CONTROL of the English language have taken it upon yourself to police mods.... Dude its a CONTAINER MOD.... Its not freaking RedPower or Smartmoving or any of a number of mods the the Creator REALLY WROTE NEW AND COMPLEX CODE FOR....
You did not have to be Mean and Nasy in your attitude...
You did not have to be sooo aggressive about something that really is not much your business...
as a 30+ year old man I can say....
YOU need to GROW UP and act your age be mature, be HELPFUL not harmful.
You could have nicely said hey buckaroo this is awesome you did this but.... and much of what you have posted COULD have been done in PM's so that the WHOLE COMMUNITY did not have to hear all the nasty nasty....
Your not being a better part of the Community by attacking someone who was
1. Honestly being helpful,
2. Not once claiming that it was COMPLETELY his work.
3. a newbie, and it seems SO ARE YOU.
Take a step back, Lay off the Espresso... Pet a Dog, play with a child, do something fun and uplifting cause you need to RELAX.
Now as for this mod..... Thanks... This is cute. a Simple, Functional, piece of a collection of stuff I as well have little use for... Thanks!
I would Suggest cleaning up the language playing a little nicer with others and CHANGING THE GRAPHICS... lol Blah yukies those you have hurt my eyes...
Here I made these this morning just for you. Use them Alter them whatever...
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Ehem, from the minecraft terms of service:
In other words, unless mojang changes the tos, mod authors own their mods.
I don't have against this mod, I'm just saying just you should know the facts before you say something like that.
And another thing, I've put literally hundreds of hours into metallurgy, and even that pales in comparison to how much work others have put into their mods. And you say the "should" give that away. When you've put that much work into something (something you legally own), it's your right to do what you want with it, no one else should be able to tell you otherwise. Now metallurgy is open source, I have no problems with that, but no one can tell me that I'm not entitled to do what I want with something I've put this much time into.
Question - Are the barrels able to stack items when piped in from all sides, or just from the top like Factorization? That'll be the deciding factor for me. I hate that I can only pipe in from the top.
I think you'll lose a lot of haters if you change up the textures, and I agree to a larger difference in colors/contrast from the different types of barrels. Even the barrels from factorization have this issue. I can hardly tell upgraded barrels from the others.
More barrel ideas:
- Larger storage (fully diamond barrels/diamond block barrels?)
- Ender Barrels
- Liquid Storage Barrels
- Barrels that suck up items that fall near them
- Specialized barrels (Barrels made for food, ores, or specific other items and tools)
- XP Barrels (Storage bank for XP levels)
- Connectable barrels (Create a tower of barrels and they share and expand the inventory)
Just throwin some ideas out there if you want to implement them!