Frankly speaking, reverse engineering is not stealing and is perfectly legal in a lot of jurisdictions. But yes, i concur, it's better to stay out of it and instead put the work into making replacement mods better.
Decompiling code is nowhere near the concept of reverse engineering. Decompiling proprietary code and offering it up for public download *is* stealing/copyright infringement. Worse, it's distribution.
Further, the global internet is not governed by what "might" be legal in some arbitrary jurisdiction.
Frankly speaking, reverse engineering is not stealing and is perfectly legal in a lot of jurisdictions. But yes, i concur, it's better to stay out of it and instead put the work into making replacement mods better.
For forum admins/moders not important legal status for something in place where you live, but important law in place where forum hosting servers placed.
Because of the lack of updates on this mod and the lack of information from the author, we will soon be locking this topic until the author either releases an update, or requests it to be unlocked.
The lock will occur in 1 week. You may still talk about Redpower till then on this topic, and ask about alternatives, however sharing or distribution of unofficial Redpower updates is still not allowed.
All you have to do is post here notifying her, then screenshot your post and add a link in brackets after the permission listing. only FTB packs are allowed ofcourse
So obviously it would be a bad idea to lock the thread then huh? :\
All you have to do is post here notifying her, then screenshot your post and add a link in brackets after the permission listing. only FTB packs are allowed ofcourse
So obviously it would be a bad idea to lock the thread then huh? :\
All you have to do is post here notifying her, then screenshot your post and add a link in brackets after the permission listing. only FTB packs are allowed ofcourse
So obviously it would be a bad idea to lock the thread then huh? :\
No, no it's not a bad idea to lock the thread. This thread should have been locked ages ago. Any other mod's thread would have.
Its not like the mods on this forum can stop the community from making a new redpower. Sure it might be copyright infringement but its not like the original author seems to care. There will be a full and possibly better replacement for redpower in the future if you like it or not.
Using the code from Redpower is a no, as per the license of Redpower. And we will stop them from being on MCF. If someone codes their own from scratch, then that is fine. Updating Redpower is not.
She has stated multiple times that the mod is still being developed. It's a massive mod that gets incredibly broken every update. She can't release another redpower until there is a feature freeze for awhile.
I know all of you complaining don't even know how to use frames, computers or redpower chunkloading (may I remind you also works with railcraft) let alone how complex the code is. Anyone who says it's buggy hasn't used it properly, it's sad to see so many ignore the mod when you can do so many amazing things.
Give it a few months and it will be here. Instead of trying to make a new redpower, make a mod that adds the new drag-crafting, flowers and horses in 1.4.7.
She is a full time electrical engineer, it's painful between updates but I'd prefer it written by her than by someone who is too impatient to wait.
I have no reason to update beyond 1.4.7 at this point. Ive put together heavily modded instances of both 152 and 164 and theyre hardly any different from my trusty old version except in the case of 152 it takes twice as long to load and likes to run out of memory 164 lacks optifine's mipmap which I dont know how anyone plays without. Oh and my customized texture pack has been broken so theres that. Sure Id like to try Tinker's construct and DEFINITELY thaumcraft 4 but I can wait.
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She said that Zeta/Minia would be a MC clone with RP being part of vanilla. Which is why she may not make RP open source, she hopes to make lots of money from it.
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I don't think she will stop RP immediately as there are many people playing minecraft, and it's too terrible without it. I can see moving over to Minia at some point in the future so I understand wanting to get a concept version working of the game as early as possible though. Although I'm hoping for some form of collaboration with galacticraft to make a redpower version of the mod, they would go well together.
theres literally nothing stopping you complainers from playing redpower other than whatever weird thing compels you to update minecraft even though one of your favorite mods hasnt yet? If you want redpower, there it is. Download it and play. I will never ever understand why people immediately jump to new versions. You dont have to!
I have no reason to update beyond 1.4.7 at this point. Ive put together heavily modded instances of both 152 and 164 and theyre hardly any different from my trusty old version except in the case of 152 it takes twice as long to load and likes to run out of memory 164 lacks optifine's mipmap which I dont know how anyone plays without. Oh and my customized texture pack has been broken so theres that. Sure Id like to try Tinker's construct and DEFINITELY thaumcraft 4 but I can wait.
Wait for what? RP? If you don't see any differences between 1.4.7 and 1.6.4 then by all means, continue to live in the past. Some folks just are more comfortable there, some of us like moving forward and playing with new toys. But, to each his own.
Also, if you are running out of memory you need to set your JVM arguments properly or maybe you need to upgrade your computer.
Because of the lack of updates on this mod and the lack of information from the author, we will soon be locking this topic until the author either releases an update, or requests it to be unlocked.
The lock will occur in 1 week. You may still talk about Redpower till then on this topic, and ask about alternatives, however sharing or distribution of unofficial Redpower updates is still not allowed.
But then where will talk about redpower?
Edit: Personally, I think you should wait until after Christmas brake, because if she had time off work to think about updating redpower, then she would then.
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Considering her tweets and what was said during minecon, I watched the twitch videos, I suspect she prioritized finishing her own game, Zeta or Minia or whatever she calls it now, over updating for MC.
She said that Zeta/Minia would be a MC clone with RP being part of vanilla. Which is why she may not make RP open source, she hopes to make lots of money from it.
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The lock will occur in 1 week. You may still talk about Redpower till then on this topic, and ask about alternatives, however sharing or distribution of unofficial Redpower updates is still not allowed.
Before the thread is locked, I just wanted to ask if anyone's found another good alternative? Right now I'm playing with MFR and while it's a nice stand-in it pales before RedPower...
<speculation>
Considering her tweets and what was said during minecon, I watched the twitch videos, I suspect she prioritized finishing her own game, Zeta or Minia or whatever she calls it now, over updating for MC.
She said that Zeta/Minia would be a MC clone with RP being part of vanilla. Which is why she may not make RP open source, she hopes to make lots of money from it.
</speculation>
Before the thread is locked, I just wanted to ask if anyone's found another good alternative? Right now I'm playing with MFR and while it's a nice stand-in it pales before RedPower...
Project Red is so far the best alternative in my opinion, with a tube like system being added soon
Before the thread is locked, I just wanted to ask if anyone's found another good alternative? Right now I'm playing with MFR and while it's a nice stand-in it pales before RedPower...
Project: Red... is one.
There is also, RedLogic
And the RedNet stuff from that big mod.
Will this mod be coming to 1.5.2? I really need it like right now!
Seeing as there has not been a bug fix for 1.4 yet, and Minecraft 1.7 is already out I highly doubt that if she continues the project she will begin at 1.5. Sorry.
Decompiling code is nowhere near the concept of reverse engineering. Decompiling proprietary code and offering it up for public download *is* stealing/copyright infringement. Worse, it's distribution.
Further, the global internet is not governed by what "might" be legal in some arbitrary jurisdiction.
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Forum AdminThe lock will occur in 1 week. You may still talk about Redpower till then on this topic, and ask about alternatives, however sharing or distribution of unofficial Redpower updates is still not allowed.
All you have to do is post here notifying her, then screenshot your post and add a link in brackets after the permission listing. only FTB packs are allowed ofcourse
So obviously it would be a bad idea to lock the thread then huh? :\
wrongo, read the TLP.
No, no it's not a bad idea to lock the thread. This thread should have been locked ages ago. Any other mod's thread would have.
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Forum AdminUsing the code from Redpower is a no, as per the license of Redpower. And we will stop them from being on MCF. If someone codes their own from scratch, then that is fine. Updating Redpower is not.
I know all of you complaining don't even know how to use frames, computers or redpower chunkloading (may I remind you also works with railcraft) let alone how complex the code is. Anyone who says it's buggy hasn't used it properly, it's sad to see so many ignore the mod when you can do so many amazing things.
Give it a few months and it will be here. Instead of trying to make a new redpower, make a mod that adds the new drag-crafting, flowers and horses in 1.4.7.
She is a full time electrical engineer, it's painful between updates but I'd prefer it written by her than by someone who is too impatient to wait.
I don't think she will stop RP immediately as there are many people playing minecraft, and it's too terrible without it. I can see moving over to Minia at some point in the future so I understand wanting to get a concept version working of the game as early as possible though. Although I'm hoping for some form of collaboration with galacticraft to make a redpower version of the mod, they would go well together.
Then again, If I am hoping for things: http://www.blockscape.com
It would be good to see these two join together to make that game a thing instead
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Curse PremiumWait for what? RP? If you don't see any differences between 1.4.7 and 1.6.4 then by all means, continue to live in the past. Some folks just are more comfortable there, some of us like moving forward and playing with new toys. But, to each his own.
Also, if you are running out of memory you need to set your JVM arguments properly or maybe you need to upgrade your computer.
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Curse PremiumBut then where will talk about redpower?
Edit: Personally, I think you should wait until after Christmas brake, because if she had time off work to think about updating redpower, then she would then.
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Curse PremiumSearched it up, and Minia is a MC clone after all
http://www.eloraam.com/blog/2011/09/24/a-granite-shack/
http://www.eloraam.com/blog/2011/09/24/and-tools/
http://www.eloraam.com/blog/2011/09/08/brand-new-blog/
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Before the thread is locked, I just wanted to ask if anyone's found another good alternative? Right now I'm playing with MFR and while it's a nice stand-in it pales before RedPower...
and i would be first in line to buy it
Project Red is so far the best alternative in my opinion, with a tube like system being added soon
Project: Red... is one.
There is also, RedLogic
And the RedNet stuff from that big mod.
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Curse PremiumSeeing as there has not been a bug fix for 1.4 yet, and Minecraft 1.7 is already out I highly doubt that if she continues the project she will begin at 1.5. Sorry.