As mentioned before in our 2020 news post, one of the changes that we mentioned we were going to look into the restructure of our forum sections.
After our change to this layout back at the release of the Bedrock Edition, we made the decision back then to break out each section so that players could find information for their specific version. In order to make it more clean, we chose to use the same names that Mojang called their versions, to try to reduce clarify, knowing that they certainly were not the best names.
Over time, we knew this naming scheme was going to cause issues, and it's becoming more and more apparent that the section names and layout are not working as well for what we hoped, more-so in our Multiplayer sections. We also know our main content sections suffer from an overload of sub sections, which cause even more confusion on what you want to look for.
As such, we've internally have been working out a new forum structure that we hope will help collapse down our content and make it easier to find what you want. The biggest goals from this change are to make it so that when you see the section name, you know what it's for, and that you know it's what you want. We will not be using sub-sub sections (where a section has a section which has another section... looking at Mapping and Modding). We will also be pushing the use of the prefix system that has existed, but may be glossed over by users because it's not nearly as apparent.
We do want your feedback on this though, as we know what we think might be best, may not actually be the best. This is our current "end structure" that we plan on currently.
Minecraft
- Discussion
- Suggestions (prefix for game edition)
- Seeds (prefixes for the version + game edition)
- Support (redirect to actual support section)
Mods and Addons (this also includes data packs)
- Help/Discussion
Resource Packs
- Help/Discussion
Skins
- Help/Discussion
Other Projects and Tools
Multiplayer - Java Edition (all posts here, prefixes for types/realms)
Multiplayer - Bedrock Edition
Support
Show Your Content
- Screenshots
- Videos
- Art
- Shops and Requests
Forum Discussion and Information
Off Topic
- General
- Computer Science and Technology
- Culture, Media, and Arts
- Forum Games
I know the changes for Multiplayer may seem like they are going to harm smaller servers or those that just want to look for someone. This is why we will be pushing out the usage of prefixes to help "filter" down the content you are looking for. This system is already used in the Support section currently, and will be enhanced for the sharing of content and multiplayer.
We feel like the separation of the 2 games is needlessly breaking up the Minecraft community as a whole. While they have different game styles and content available, it's all Minecraft, and we want everyone to feel happy talking about it.
Please give us feedback on this. We already will work to ensure that all links function as they do now (which is an issue we've had in the past with these restructures). We will listen to any constructive feedback to it, and take them into consideration. This is not a locked-in structure. If you don't see an old section, then it either is merged into a section which has the same name, or will be archived.
Frequently Asked Questions:
Q) Where did the Server Administration section go?
A) This section we felt served no real value, and any discussions here either can be put into the main discussion section, or into the support section. We know some users made their fame here (looking at 2 of our admins), and it's sad to see it go, but this was something we knew was coming.
Q) Where did the Server Recruitment go?
A) As this section fills up with people double-posting, or putting in basically "want staff, but here's my ad instead", we decided this section is just better served with the main section, and a prefix to indicate you want staff.
Q) But won't this just make those sections more cluttered with all the threads?
A) We do not believe so. Most of our sections don't nearly have the amount of traffic that breaking them up would have avoided.
To be honest I prefer it split, so you don't have to scroll through to find java posts (or vice versa for bedrock)
Edit: If possible, a way to sort by tag would be awesome, so you can just sort by the java tag to see all the java ed posts
You can click on a tag and filter out everything that doesn't include the tag, so if people are properly using a java or bedrock tag for their threads, you can just click on the java tag and only java threads will show up.
I am not in favor of merging the forums for the different versions.
I agree that the forum structure is too complex and confusing when you visit the forum for the first time and are confronted with subsections for Minecraft Java Edition and plain “Minecraft” among others. Once the correct forum is bookmarked, however I never saw that jumble again. I now navigate solely within the Java Edition section which is user friendly.
I took a look at the posts in the sections for the other editions and I have the impression that the issues and discussions are not the same. I would prefer keeping the editions separate.
I notice that three active forum categories that I read are no longer listed: Survival Mode, Creative Mode and Recent Updates and Snapshots. Is it your plan to have all these sections incorporated in the Discussion forum?
I notice that three active forum categories that I read are no longer listed: Survival Mode, Creative Mode and Recent Updates and Snapshots. Is it your plan to have all these sections incorporated in the Discussion forum?
They slipped my mind, but yes, I don't think there's a benefit keeping them separated. It's all basically discussion of the game, so the separation (mainly for Survival and Creative) do not have real benefit. I can see an argument though that Recent Updates and Snapshots should still be broken out, but I don't feel like it's enough to keep it different.
The reason for the Discussion merges though is that the volume of threads across the board is just minimal really. 9/10 threads are for Java, compared to the others. 2.3k threads in the Bedrock version, 2k for Xbox, 1.5 for PS4. It's just small compared to the main section. And since really, there are fewer and fewer differences in the game, I don't see much value-add in breaking them out.
I agree, there are just too many sections. If it was up to me I would actually remove "Minecraft", "Minecraft:Editions", "Minecraft: Pocket Edition" and "Show Your Creation" and merge them into "Minecraft: Java Edition" and rename "Minecraft: Java Edition" to "Minecraft". And make using Tags a requirement.
I think a new person would just get overwhelmed by the amount of sections and not know where to post.
This would also make it easier to moderate sections.
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Will there be a split in the redstone/commands forums?
I am not planning on it. While there is a difference, there is only 700 threads for it in the Bedrock version, compared to the 37k in the Java. That is not enough to keep them different, where prefixes can help filter them.
I agree, there are just too many sections. If it was up to me I would actually remove "Minecraft", "Minecraft:Editions", "Minecraft: Pocket Edition" and "Show Your Creation" and merge them into "Minecraft: Java Edition" and rename "Minecraft: Java Edition" to "Minecraft". And make using Tags a requirement.
Show Your Creation has enough sub-categories that I find it's cleaner to keep it isolated to itself, but have it handle all editions as well. I don't think we'll force tags to be used in the Discussion (that makes for an annoying experience too), but when you're sharing content, we may require them.
Will you have forced tags for the Bedrock/Java for Cmds/Redstone?
Reasoning -
The 1.13 and 1.14 changes for Java made it so commands between Java and Bedrock are hardly recognizable, especially for less documented topics. As you mentioned, the help forum for Java is far more active than Bedrock. However, Nearly every question asked in the Bedrock forum has been answered. If there isn't something that can immediately indicate whether a post is Bedrock or Java it will could lead to annoyance, incorrectly answered questions, longer wait times for answers and/or questions/posts not being answered/gobbled up, especially for less frequent posts like Bedrock. This is an issue that is still currently a problem which is why I wanted a Bedrock Java split that wasn't just "Minecraft" and "Minecraft:Java." I would consider myself one of the more active members on these (specifically the redstone/commands) sub-forums and I constantly find myself asking. "Bedrock or Java?" before I can actually post anything of value on their post. If we combine them then you're not really fixing any problems except for moderators to not have to move posts between threads. And you exacerbate the problem of having to ask if people are on Java or Bedrock without forcing a tag to the post.
I'm sure whatever you decide upon will be ok. I'm just grateful that the forums are still here. Is there anything that can be done to prevent text one writes being replaced with the word "left"? I always have to re-read my posts after I post them and often I have to edit them to fix them. I realize that the forum software may just be very finicky and you may have no control over it.
Is there anything that can be done to prevent text one writes being replaced with the word "left"? I always have to re-read my posts after I post them and often I have to edit them to fix them. I realize that the forum software may just be very finicky and you may have no control over it.
Right now the editor is not on the list of things to fix, although I did forget about those issues. I'll note them down internally so we can investigate it more when we have the time.
I think this change will be for the better. Just one small question... Will there be a way to exclude a specific tag from the page?
I have an interest in everything being merged into the Discussion forum except for the Creative threads.
I don't think that's currently supported, but I suspect the volume would be low that you might be able to just glance over them. I'll add this to our backlog as a feature that users would like.
Though the proposed changes have not yet happened, If you meant why isn't it on the new plan, that would be down to the pi edition being long dead and the forum section we currently have only receiving maybe 10-20 posts this year
I meant in the plan. I would suggest not whipping it off the map entirely, as it has no other forum anywhere else. This would be the last one.
Greetings!
As mentioned before in our 2020 news post, one of the changes that we mentioned we were going to look into the restructure of our forum sections.
After our change to this layout back at the release of the Bedrock Edition, we made the decision back then to break out each section so that players could find information for their specific version. In order to make it more clean, we chose to use the same names that Mojang called their versions, to try to reduce clarify, knowing that they certainly were not the best names.
Over time, we knew this naming scheme was going to cause issues, and it's becoming more and more apparent that the section names and layout are not working as well for what we hoped, more-so in our Multiplayer sections. We also know our main content sections suffer from an overload of sub sections, which cause even more confusion on what you want to look for.
As such, we've internally have been working out a new forum structure that we hope will help collapse down our content and make it easier to find what you want. The biggest goals from this change are to make it so that when you see the section name, you know what it's for, and that you know it's what you want. We will not be using sub-sub sections (where a section has a section which has another section... looking at Mapping and Modding). We will also be pushing the use of the prefix system that has existed, but may be glossed over by users because it's not nearly as apparent.
We do want your feedback on this though, as we know what we think might be best, may not actually be the best. This is our current "end structure" that we plan on currently.
I know the changes for Multiplayer may seem like they are going to harm smaller servers or those that just want to look for someone. This is why we will be pushing out the usage of prefixes to help "filter" down the content you are looking for. This system is already used in the Support section currently, and will be enhanced for the sharing of content and multiplayer.
We feel like the separation of the 2 games is needlessly breaking up the Minecraft community as a whole. While they have different game styles and content available, it's all Minecraft, and we want everyone to feel happy talking about it.
Please give us feedback on this. We already will work to ensure that all links function as they do now (which is an issue we've had in the past with these restructures). We will listen to any constructive feedback to it, and take them into consideration. This is not a locked-in structure. If you don't see an old section, then it either is merged into a section which has the same name, or will be archived.
Frequently Asked Questions:
Q) Where did the Server Administration section go?
A) This section we felt served no real value, and any discussions here either can be put into the main discussion section, or into the support section. We know some users made their fame here (looking at 2 of our admins), and it's sad to see it go, but this was something we knew was coming.
Q) Where did the Server Recruitment go?
A) As this section fills up with people double-posting, or putting in basically "want staff, but here's my ad instead", we decided this section is just better served with the main section, and a prefix to indicate you want staff.
Q) But won't this just make those sections more cluttered with all the threads?
A) We do not believe so. Most of our sections don't nearly have the amount of traffic that breaking them up would have avoided.
Will the support section undergo any change/restructure regarding the way that it's split (Java edition, bedrock edition, etc)
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To be honest I prefer it split, so you don't have to scroll through to find java posts (or vice versa for bedrock)
Edit: If possible, a way to sort by tag would be awesome, so you can just sort by the java tag to see all the java ed posts
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Im honestly just happy to see the Bedrock/Java split
You can click on a tag and filter out everything that doesn't include the tag, so if people are properly using a java or bedrock tag for their threads, you can just click on the java tag and only java threads will show up.
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Ah that's brilliant. I'm for the new tag system then aha
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As long as these tags are a requirement to make a post, I'd be fine with these changes and think that they'd clean up the forums quite a bit.
Good work as usual
I am not in favor of merging the forums for the different versions.
I agree that the forum structure is too complex and confusing when you visit the forum for the first time and are confronted with subsections for Minecraft Java Edition and plain “Minecraft” among others. Once the correct forum is bookmarked, however I never saw that jumble again. I now navigate solely within the Java Edition section which is user friendly.
I took a look at the posts in the sections for the other editions and I have the impression that the issues and discussions are not the same. I would prefer keeping the editions separate.
I notice that three active forum categories that I read are no longer listed: Survival Mode, Creative Mode and Recent Updates and Snapshots. Is it your plan to have all these sections incorporated in the Discussion forum?
By the way thank you for all your hard work!
They slipped my mind, but yes, I don't think there's a benefit keeping them separated. It's all basically discussion of the game, so the separation (mainly for Survival and Creative) do not have real benefit. I can see an argument though that Recent Updates and Snapshots should still be broken out, but I don't feel like it's enough to keep it different.
The reason for the Discussion merges though is that the volume of threads across the board is just minimal really. 9/10 threads are for Java, compared to the others. 2.3k threads in the Bedrock version, 2k for Xbox, 1.5 for PS4. It's just small compared to the main section. And since really, there are fewer and fewer differences in the game, I don't see much value-add in breaking them out.
I agree, there are just too many sections. If it was up to me I would actually remove "Minecraft", "Minecraft:Editions", "Minecraft: Pocket Edition" and "Show Your Creation" and merge them into "Minecraft: Java Edition" and rename "Minecraft: Java Edition" to "Minecraft". And make using Tags a requirement.
I think a new person would just get overwhelmed by the amount of sections and not know where to post.
This would also make it easier to moderate sections.
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Will there be a split in the redstone/commands forums?
I am not planning on it. While there is a difference, there is only 700 threads for it in the Bedrock version, compared to the 37k in the Java. That is not enough to keep them different, where prefixes can help filter them.
Show Your Creation has enough sub-categories that I find it's cleaner to keep it isolated to itself, but have it handle all editions as well. I don't think we'll force tags to be used in the Discussion (that makes for an annoying experience too), but when you're sharing content, we may require them.
Will you have forced tags for the Bedrock/Java for Cmds/Redstone?
Reasoning -
The 1.13 and 1.14 changes for Java made it so commands between Java and Bedrock are hardly recognizable, especially for less documented topics. As you mentioned, the help forum for Java is far more active than Bedrock. However, Nearly every question asked in the Bedrock forum has been answered. If there isn't something that can immediately indicate whether a post is Bedrock or Java it will could lead to annoyance, incorrectly answered questions, longer wait times for answers and/or questions/posts not being answered/gobbled up, especially for less frequent posts like Bedrock. This is an issue that is still currently a problem which is why I wanted a Bedrock Java split that wasn't just "Minecraft" and "Minecraft:Java." I would consider myself one of the more active members on these (specifically the redstone/commands) sub-forums and I constantly find myself asking. "Bedrock or Java?" before I can actually post anything of value on their post. If we combine them then you're not really fixing any problems except for moderators to not have to move posts between threads. And you exacerbate the problem of having to ask if people are on Java or Bedrock without forcing a tag to the post.
I will look into how we can make this then a bit easier for users, since your reasoning does make sense.
I'm sure whatever you decide upon will be ok. I'm just grateful that the forums are still here. Is there anything that can be done to prevent text one writes being replaced with the word "left"? I always have to re-read my posts after I post them and often I have to edit them to fix them. I realize that the forum software may just be very finicky and you may have no control over it.
Right now the editor is not on the list of things to fix, although I did forget about those issues. I'll note them down internally so we can investigate it more when we have the time.
I think this change will be for the better. Just one small question... Will there be a way to exclude a specific tag from the page?
I have an interest in everything being merged into the Discussion forum except for the Creative threads.
I don't think that's currently supported, but I suspect the volume would be low that you might be able to just glance over them. I'll add this to our backlog as a feature that users would like.
Where did the pi edition forums go?
I meant in the plan. I would suggest not whipping it off the map entirely, as it has no other forum anywhere else. This would be the last one.