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I say this as a fellow developer myself. Not a game dev mind you, but I do work with Java as well as other languages.
Point is, it is UNACCEPTABLE for a "final" product (as of last November) to experience GAME BREAKING updates this frequently. They should add MORE stuff in BIGGER freaking updates further apart. If you're going to release an update every 3 weeks that breaks multiplayer/plugins than people are just going to get pissed off and stop playing. Believe me, I'm on edge about it. This is NOT a healthy development process.
Every time they release a major update, the entire multiplayer community is put on hold almost. Between the morons who refuse to update until everything else is updated and the even bigger morons who couldn't click "no" at the update screen, its a cluster****. Not to mention all the "OMG WHEN IS THIS PLUGIN UPDATING!?" crap. I'd be pissed off as well.
The updates don't break the game. Name 1 that did. Nor do they come every 3 weeks.
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note: Then I mention a group of people in my posts, i mean the majority of information i have seen from that group, and my statement may not be accurate for every individual in that group.
There hasn't been one game-breaking update. There have been multiple bukkit-breaking updates, as well as mod-breaking updates, and even hacked-client-breaking updates, but never a game-breaking update.
The updates don't break the game. Name 1 that did. Nor do they come every 3 weeks.
He doesn't mean unplayable game breaking.
Recently, there was a bug where mobs wouldn't burn up in daylight, so you had a bunch of zombies and skelingtons (Yes, I spelled that like that) running around in the day time
I miss the alpha days, where the patches actually was something good. Not its just like... kittens... whoo?.. If you want to get less pissed off, stop reading the forums really.
Woah, its almost as if the more content a game has, the smaller the update becomes....
But in all seriousness, Jeb's just trying to make the players happy, and the majority of people like more frequent, smaller updates. When we go a few weeks to a month without one, 80% of the board gets their nips in a twist. I think he's doing a very good job of polishing up things that should have been done long ago.
There hasn't been one game-breaking update. There have been multiple bukkit-breaking updates, as well as mod-breaking updates, and even hacked-client-breaking updates, but never a game-breaking update.
Bukkit is part of Mojang now. Either way, frequent disrupting updates like this is ridiculous for a "Final" product.
Bukkit is part of Mojang now. Either way, frequent disrupting updates like this is ridiculous for a "Final" product.
There is nothing "Final" about it. Notch said before Minecon that it was just a milestone, it meant nothing in the way of development. So explain to me? What is so disrupting about these updates? I've been playing them just fine.
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mgh! they haven't added anything to the game how could possibly dare to say its normal? where is our trading?,our reddragons?our pigmen?, our prefix mobs?,our adventure mode? WHERE IS IT? at first i thought it was okay but then...JEB DONE NOTHING GOOD, NO ACTUALLY GOOD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GAME the new mob ai is good its was supposed to be there but he never said anything abot these BLANK HEADED,SQUIDWARD NOSED,PIECE OF SH-- VILLAGERS! so bassically he just messin around but... there is one game coming, into their tongue its rullar, SCROLLS: IS THE GAME, THEY WORKING ON, OH MAH GOD, LOOKS AWSOME,AND FRESH FOR OUR LIVES!!!! then minecraft will be free from fail jeb's updates NOTCH NOTCH FOR HIS AWSOMENESS IS SWORN.
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mgh! they haven't added anything to the game how could possibly dare to say its normal? where is our trading?,our reddragons?our pigmen?, our prefix mobs?,our adventure mode? WHERE IS IT? at first i thought it was okay but then...JEB DONE NOTHING GOOD, NO ACTUALLY GOOD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GAME the new mob ai is good its was supposed to be there but he never said anything abot these BLANK HEADED,SQUIDWARD NOSED,PIECE OF SH-- VILLAGERS! so bassically he just messin around but... there is one game coming, into their tongue its rullar, SCROLLS: IS THE GAME, THEY WORKING ON, OH MAH GOD, LOOKS AWSOME,AND FRESH FOR OUR LIVES!!!! then minecraft will be free from fail jeb's updates NOTCH NOTCH FOR HIS AWSOMENESS IS SWORN.
Wait. If they haven't added anything to the game...what are we playing then? All those things you said will come. Be patient. I think a lot of things Jeb added were good improvements so I don't know what you're talking about. The new Mod AI is good, and guess what, the new AI includes the villagers too, and guess what else, they're still working on that too. Once again, be patient. I don't even know what to say to the rest of what you said, it looks like the ramblings of a drunk person. A few things you should try, patience, spelling, and grammer. (oh my gosh it was a pain to read what you said)
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Just because you people don't like Jeb's opinions of what should be added to the game (a game that, IMO, keeps getting better), doesn't mean you have to go pissing on his opinions on the forums. WE GET IT. Now SHUT UP.
I say this as a fellow developer myself. Not a game dev mind you, but I do work with Java as well as other languages.
Point is, it is UNACCEPTABLE for a "final" product (as of last November) to experience GAME BREAKING updates this frequently. They should add MORE stuff in BIGGER freaking updates further apart. If you're going to release an update every 3 weeks that breaks multiplayer/plugins than people are just going to get pissed off and stop playing.
this is the problem if they do that you will have a ton of poeple saying "HURRAZA UP AND UDATE THE GMAE ALREADY"
this so the problem with minecarft every time theira an update you have poeple whining about it making the game not minecraft any but every time their is NOT an update you have the same people complaining that teh game is not updated
jeb should get points just for putting up with all the bull$h*t he gets from the fans
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i got white first but i redid it by awnsering properly
LOL 'final product'.
That just failed your entire friggin argument there, LOL.
There's only been one literally game-breaking bug in the entire last batch of updates, which was one that came with the new world format, but hey, that was fixed. Some minor bugs still exist but they're not game-breaking.
I think that the sheer fact that leaving Beta was a milestone and not a 'This is the final product we are giving you, we're done' completely shatters whatever shadow of an argument you had . . . >_>
To the arguers he means that Minecraft you should not be acknowledged as a "full release" version back then. That's probably my best guess, but please don't rebut with anger.
BTW, it's not good to have a vicious cycle of update with new content and bugs, even if the new content outweighs the bugs. (The weekly snapshots did not seem to help combat bugs, I still see a number of them reported after a new update)
I can see the OP point of view, if you run a bukkit server with multiple mods, updates are a pain until bukkit is also updated. I also don't have the luxury of deciding which versions of mods are installed as the server is hosted and this aspect of it is controlled by them. So while I can update to a vanilla server of the latest version of MC and I can also use the non-stable bukkit release, I can't get access to the latest mods which work on the non-stable release, so there is no point in upgrading. So to keep using all the mods I don't update and just wait for the stable bukkit release, but unfortunately lose a big chunk of my player base.
The problem with the OP point of view is that he thinks the devs of Minecraft need to slow down so the mods and plugins can keep up. There is no reason the devs should do that, mods and plugins aren't an official part of the game.
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Wait. If they haven't added anything to the game...what are we playing then? All those things you said will come. Be patient. I think a lot of things Jeb added were good improvements so I don't know what you're talking about. The new Mod AI is good, and guess what, the new AI includes the villagers too, and guess what else, they're still working on that too. Once again, be patient. I don't even know what to say to the rest of what you said, it looks like the ramblings of a drunk person. A few things you should try, patience, spelling, and grammer. (oh my gosh it was a pain to read what you said)
aw god read carefully cause i wasn't drunk all i said is true and yes:
scrolls will be better than minecraft meanwhile you all didn't notice you have a chance for the alpha.
minecraft was just a weekly fun not a full disgrace of life, i got rid of my addiction by making redstone which took me lots of time to make one simple clock and that was the end of the addiction and no im not a COD asshole these guys got nothing on me nor do i got anything for them so don't go expecting to respond this comment with your ****, by the way minecraft is getting boring no actual good stuff if the modders from the forum can add such epic things as more animals jeb is just a little-*censored* waiting for glitches to fix and say that he added new ---- he was just waiting for the time to takeover mojang you know.
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Shovel Knight is this color.
Memnon is this color
Cinder is this color.
Glacius is this color.
Jago is this color.
The Batter (or just Batter) is this color
Heatshade is this col- I CHOOSE MY OWN COLORS, BABY!!!
aw god read carefully cause i wasn't drunk all i said is true and yes:
scrolls will be better than minecraft meanwhile you all didn't notice you have a chance for the alpha.
minecraft was just a weekly fun not a full disgrace of life, i got rid of my addiction by making redstone which took me lots of time to make one simple clock and that was the end of the addiction and no im not a COD asshole these guys got nothing on me nor do i got anything for them so don't go expecting to respond this comment with your ****, by the way minecraft is getting boring no actual good stuff if the modders from the forum can add such epic things as more animals jeb is just a little-*censored* waiting for glitches to fix and say that he added new ---- he was just waiting for the time to takeover mojang you know.
I read what you said very carefully, it made absolutely NO sense. Scrolls and Minecraft are two completely different games, they can't be compared to each other. You may think it will be better, but I enjoy sandbox games more than most games, so I still probably enjoy Minecraft more, and just so you know, I did sign up for the alpha of Scrolls. Your next sentence doesn't even make sense, I'm guessing you are saying, to you, Minecraft was just something fun to do every now and then, and you broke your addiction by working with Minecraft (which was made by Notch going against your previous argument that Jeb made all the crap). Where did you even get that little bit about COD? No one accused you of anything related to that. That's a nice opinion you have there, just don't go claiming its a fact. I rather enjoy Minecraft and I don't have any mods installed at all. You forget that Jeb is still adding things to the game. And the rest of what you wrote is a strong opinionated accusation that doesn't even need addressed because it's not true.
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I would like big updates that came every 3 months, so I could play online, and build, and the mod/plugin/bukkit could be prepeared for the next update.
Then we could all play online, and have tons of cool stuff!
Point is, it is UNACCEPTABLE for a "final" product (as of last November) to experience GAME BREAKING updates this frequently. They should add MORE stuff in BIGGER freaking updates further apart. If you're going to release an update every 3 weeks that breaks multiplayer/plugins than people are just going to get pissed off and stop playing. Believe me, I'm on edge about it. This is NOT a healthy development process.
Every time they release a major update, the entire multiplayer community is put on hold almost. Between the morons who refuse to update until everything else is updated and the even bigger morons who couldn't click "no" at the update screen, its a cluster****. Not to mention all the "OMG WHEN IS THIS PLUGIN UPDATING!?" crap. I'd be pissed off as well.
Jeb, learn to run a dev team.
He doesn't mean unplayable game breaking.
Recently, there was a bug where mobs wouldn't burn up in daylight, so you had a bunch of zombies and skelingtons (Yes, I spelled that like that) running around in the day time
But in all seriousness, Jeb's just trying to make the players happy, and the majority of people like more frequent, smaller updates. When we go a few weeks to a month without one, 80% of the board gets their nips in a twist. I think he's doing a very good job of polishing up things that should have been done long ago.
Bukkit is part of Mojang now. Either way, frequent disrupting updates like this is ridiculous for a "Final" product.
There is nothing "Final" about it. Notch said before Minecon that it was just a milestone, it meant nothing in the way of development. So explain to me? What is so disrupting about these updates? I've been playing them just fine.
Geno: Blahblahblah, random sentence.
Firebrand is this color.
Shovel Knight is this color.
Memnon is this color
Cinder is this color.
Glacius is this color.
Jago is this color.
The Batter (or just Batter) is this color
Heatshade is this col- I CHOOSE MY OWN COLORS, BABY!!!
Heatshade, please.
...Fine.
Anyway...
I am this color.
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Wait. If they haven't added anything to the game...what are we playing then? All those things you said will come. Be patient. I think a lot of things Jeb added were good improvements so I don't know what you're talking about. The new Mod AI is good, and guess what, the new AI includes the villagers too, and guess what else, they're still working on that too. Once again, be patient. I don't even know what to say to the rest of what you said, it looks like the ramblings of a drunk person. A few things you should try, patience, spelling, and grammer. (oh my gosh it was a pain to read what you said)
this is the problem if they do that you will have a ton of poeple saying "HURRAZA UP AND UDATE THE GMAE ALREADY"
this so the problem with minecarft every time theira an update you have poeple whining about it making the game not minecraft any but every time their is NOT an update you have the same people complaining that teh game is not updated
jeb should get points just for putting up with all the bull$h*t he gets from the fans
That just failed your entire friggin argument there, LOL.
There's only been one literally game-breaking bug in the entire last batch of updates, which was one that came with the new world format, but hey, that was fixed. Some minor bugs still exist but they're not game-breaking.
I think that the sheer fact that leaving Beta was a milestone and not a 'This is the final product we are giving you, we're done' completely shatters whatever shadow of an argument you had . . . >_>
BTW, it's not good to have a vicious cycle of update with new content and bugs, even if the new content outweighs the bugs. (The weekly snapshots did not seem to help combat bugs, I still see a number of them reported after a new update)
Keep on derpin'
The problem with the OP point of view is that he thinks the devs of Minecraft need to slow down so the mods and plugins can keep up. There is no reason the devs should do that, mods and plugins aren't an official part of the game.
aw god read carefully cause i wasn't drunk all i said is true and yes:
scrolls will be better than minecraft meanwhile you all didn't notice you have a chance for the alpha.
minecraft was just a weekly fun not a full disgrace of life, i got rid of my addiction by making redstone which took me lots of time to make one simple clock and that was the end of the addiction and no im not a COD asshole these guys got nothing on me nor do i got anything for them so don't go expecting to respond this comment with your ****, by the way minecraft is getting boring no actual good stuff if the modders from the forum can add such epic things as more animals jeb is just a little-*censored* waiting for glitches to fix and say that he added new ---- he was just waiting for the time to takeover mojang you know.
Geno: Blahblahblah, random sentence.
Firebrand is this color.
Shovel Knight is this color.
Memnon is this color
Cinder is this color.
Glacius is this color.
Jago is this color.
The Batter (or just Batter) is this color
Heatshade is this col- I CHOOSE MY OWN COLORS, BABY!!!
Heatshade, please.
...Fine.
Anyway...
I am this color.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Therealadrenalinerush/
I read what you said very carefully, it made absolutely NO sense. Scrolls and Minecraft are two completely different games, they can't be compared to each other. You may think it will be better, but I enjoy sandbox games more than most games, so I still probably enjoy Minecraft more, and just so you know, I did sign up for the alpha of Scrolls. Your next sentence doesn't even make sense, I'm guessing you are saying, to you, Minecraft was just something fun to do every now and then, and you broke your addiction by working with Minecraft (which was made by Notch going against your previous argument that Jeb made all the crap). Where did you even get that little bit about COD? No one accused you of anything related to that. That's a nice opinion you have there, just don't go claiming its a fact. I rather enjoy Minecraft and I don't have any mods installed at all. You forget that Jeb is still adding things to the game. And the rest of what you wrote is a strong opinionated accusation that doesn't even need addressed because it's not true.
Then we could all play online, and have tons of cool stuff!