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If I were to run a Minecraft server with a bought Minecraft client and set up a server with plugins via CreeperHost, would it be illegal if I asked players for donations?
I have "donation packages" and perks the players would receive in-game for their donations. This isn't in any way illegal, is it? I'm not forcing anybody to pay, since they're doing it willingly....could I, in any way, get sued for this? If the kids used their parent's paypal account to pay and their parents sue, etc....
No, it is not Illegal. But keep in mind if you do not have Terms and Conditions about your donations. There could be a law violation somewhere. Again. Talk to a lawyer
If you make over a certain amount a year. I believe it's $600 or somewhere around that amount you have to pay taxes on it. So be sure to keep records of what you make, who pays you, etc.
I'd suggest speaking with a CPA before you talk to a lawyer.
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I dont think so you would have to pay taxes on it though. Make sure if the players are minors they ask their parents first. Regarding your example no the parents cannot sue. To be safe though ask a lawyer
You most definitely would need to pay taxes on it after you make above a certain point. At least you would in the US.
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Paypal does not handle taxes. Paypal is required by law to file data on paypal users that make over a certain amount every year. The IRS is moving in on PayPal because you used to be able to avoid taxes easier with it. That's all changed now.
OP please speak to a CPA or you're going to get bad answers and end up at a desk facing an IRS agent.
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i found a cool server with a cool owner, but the admin suck, i got banned for fighting with one admin over my faction, and the onwer said if he messes with me again hes in trouble, so a little later one i donate about 100$ and they jail me for useing mob disguise at pvp, but they claim i was in creative, i wasnt. so now im jailed for life on that server, can i pres chargers for theft or embazzlement. i payed almost 100$ and got jailed for life becuse the staff dont like me? repley soon
i found a cool server with a cool owner, but the admin suck, i got banned for fighting with one admin over my faction, and the onwer said if he messes with me again hes in trouble, so a little later one i donate about 100$ and they jail me for useing mob disguise at pvp, but they claim i was in creative, i wasnt. so now im jailed for life on that server, can i pres chargers for theft or embazzlement. i payed almost 100$ and got jailed for life becuse the staff dont like me? repley soon
Depends. If the rules are posted that you cannot use Mob Disguise or creative then you are out of luck and subject to any punishment they desire. Most likely both you and the owner are minors and it was illegal to enter the arrangement on both sides. And liking has no place in law.
I would never donate more then $5 to any serve owner.
Depends. If the rules are posted that you cannot use Mob Disguise or creative then you are out of luck and subject to any punishment they desire. Most likely both you and the owner are minors and it was illegal to enter the arrangement on both sides. And liking has no place in law.
I would never donate more then $5 to any serve owner.
ya but there were no donating rules, and i didnt know i was in it, i run the shop and thats my mascot, i forgot to change it
and they never siad no mob dioguise
ya but there were no donating rules, and i didnt know i was in it, i run the shop and thats my mascot, i forgot to change it
and they never siad no mob dioguise
Im not familiar with the law enough when there is no terms of service agreement. But if you are a minor you are out of luck. Your best hopes is to message the owner apologizing and explaining your situation. Calmly... do not be angry when explaining.
Im not familiar with the law enough when there is no terms of service agreement. But if you are a minor you are out of luck. Your best hopes is to message the owner apologizing and explaining your situation. Calmly... do not be angry when explaining.
i have proof of purchase, cant i get a refund, the owners 25.
cant something be done
i have proof of purchase, cant i get a refund, the owners 25.
cant something be done
Talk to the owner, and as before, explain what happened, why you think you were wronged. Dont yell and dont act like a smart ass to the admin, they are the ones with your money in their hands.
You could try a chargeback on paypal but i doubt they would give your money back.
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A chargeback would definitely work, the owner has no proof that they gave you an item in return unless it was shipped in the mail. Your chances of winning are 95% even with a terms of service I got screwed over when one of my donators decided to chargeback. Plus its not worth them arguing it, it cost around 40 dollars to just rebuttal
This is not an issue, there a lots of ways to resolve this case in case you encounter it. Don't let it stop you from starting a server
I agree, don't let this thread stop you from stating a server. Create some terms and conditions for donating... outline what is expected from your players when they donate and what players can expect of you. There is plenty of documentation on the internet about thresholds that you can class as donations before having to pay tax on it. In Australia this is around $600.
whatcha think about the terms-conditions I have created so far?
The donation of money is only provided by an adult over 18 years of age or is paid with the consent of a legal guardian.
Any donation must be paid over www.paypal.com and cannot surpass the limit of $1000. Any money that surpases this limit will be returned.
Donators will be given their in-game prize in the form of a in-game rank ($10 for Bronze, $20 for Silver, $50 for Gold, $100 for Elite, $200 for Hon).
The ranks permissions are not set to boundries and can be changed by the server staff at any time.
Refunds can only be given on the occasion that the service is denied or that the server shuts down before three weeks of purchase have been completed. Refund will be given if the service has not yet been used within the first 5 hours of payment, and the donor has informed ********** that he or she want a refund. To inform the set person, send a message via Skype to: ********** or message him in any possible way as long as no other than him receives this information. After the 5 hour period of time, a refund may be denied if the service has not yet been provided.
There is no extra service provided to the donator apart from his in-game rank.
Opon donating there is a maximum of 24 hour waiting time, in which the rank will be given to the donator. Surpassing this time will result in a refund of the donation.
The use of non-minecraft plugins or modifications that enhance a players ablilities in the game and that can result in the banning of the player can be used at any time, regardless of his donation. The player can not ask for a refund once punished
The service is provided once the donor has recieved his in game rank, this occurs once the player is added to the in-game group he has donated for.
I guess if u have the server.log you can prove that u gave a certain thing such as rank or item, unless u dropped it for him on the floor
Donators will be given their in-game prize.Supposed to be Donators will be given his/her in-game prize
It is not illegal to ask players to donate, just don't make them feel like the have to to play on your server. I have seen many other servers do it with no problem. You do not need to Terms of Service either, but you probably want one to stop players from filing chargebacks and such. I have a friend who does it without a Terms of Service, but he is going to make one because people are filing chargebacks.
Im trying to find one too i have a public server... Working on it right now just with my friends. Try buycraft tried it for my old server but a got a new one and im trying to get the server folder for the buycraft plugin. Yay its a plugin. Minefold does not work for it
My server is sc37.servercraft.co:12372 enter port or will not work.
I have "donation packages" and perks the players would receive in-game for their donations. This isn't in any way illegal, is it? I'm not forcing anybody to pay, since they're doing it willingly....could I, in any way, get sued for this? If the kids used their parent's paypal account to pay and their parents sue, etc....
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I'd suggest speaking with a CPA before you talk to a lawyer.
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OP please speak to a CPA or you're going to get bad answers and end up at a desk facing an IRS agent.
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Depends. If the rules are posted that you cannot use Mob Disguise or creative then you are out of luck and subject to any punishment they desire. Most likely both you and the owner are minors and it was illegal to enter the arrangement on both sides. And liking has no place in law.
I would never donate more then $5 to any serve owner.
and they never siad no mob dioguise
Im not familiar with the law enough when there is no terms of service agreement. But if you are a minor you are out of luck. Your best hopes is to message the owner apologizing and explaining your situation. Calmly... do not be angry when explaining.
cant something be done
Talk to the owner, and as before, explain what happened, why you think you were wronged. Dont yell and dont act like a smart ass to the admin, they are the ones with your money in their hands.
You could try a chargeback on paypal but i doubt they would give your money back.
My magic eight ball says
"Please try again later".
This is not an issue, there a lots of ways to resolve this case in case you encounter it. Don't let it stop you from starting a server
I agree, don't let this thread stop you from stating a server. Create some terms and conditions for donating... outline what is expected from your players when they donate and what players can expect of you. There is plenty of documentation on the internet about thresholds that you can class as donations before having to pay tax on it. In Australia this is around $600.
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