Aether is just one example. Many things like Mo'Creatures has been updated through months just like minecraft. And they don't add any game-changing elements. Just tons of new mobs and items.
I'm not saying their bad or anything. I think mods are amazing! But I just think your argument is simply not correct, as modding is often slower or adds less content then notch/jeb.
This thread fails, but I'm not going to leave it at that.
Reasons it took so long:
COMPLETELY NEW lighting engine
COMPLETELY NEW world generation including complex abandoned mineshafts, complex npc villages with a huge variety of buildings, and two new biomes.
COMPLETELY NEW mobs
NPCs built from the ground up
Notch got married
PAX
Notch helped to design the Xbox and pocket versions of the game
And many more reasons I can't think of off the top of my head.
Keep in mind that Notch and the rest of Mojang need to worry about idiot fanboys (and girls) who can't accept change; this makes it hard to release such a wonderfully game-changing update quickly.
The NPCs will be added in 1.9, as will functioning experience.
This.
Haters need to stop whining. I think all the 12 year old are just getting angry because notch added enderman and they can't play anymore.
May I just add, Notch added new terrain, new lighting system, new mobs, new items. And Not to mention he got married and went on a honeymoon, He's also a very famous man and must get very stressed all the time.
But we're not seeing 5-6 days work from either notch or jeb atm. Jeb is obviously working on cobalt, we know this.
Notch is possibly working on scrolls (or being lazy) we don't know.
But this doesn't excuse them from ignoring minecraft. Minecraft is what's made them a success, they should finish it and not half ass it when they're not working on their other projects.
You're still making an assumption based on nothing but vague tweets and blog posts. The fact is, you don't know how much time or effort they put into it. You also don't know where the game is supposed to be once finished and how much time they need to budget to get there. On top of that, Minecraft may not be a priority to them, and there's no reason why they need to make it one. They've already gotten the bulk of the audience they were going to get, anyway. As a company, Mojang's future isn't Minecraft.
Notch ought to hire a few computer scientists or else sell minecraft to a development company with greater resources at its disposal. Just imagine how awesome minecraft could be if it were made by people who really knew what they were doing (technically at least, if not artistically)?
Well thats good, I just know some people have the game working on xbox360 so yea. But if that is true, then I'll just have to get it for the xbox 360 cracked of course. Cause I am not buying this game a second time around. Hopefully for people that bought it for the pc can download it for free on the 360.
Are you kidding me??? I've heard this kicked around several times. People who want pocket minecraft or xbox minecraft for free because they bought it already on pc. That's just dumb. When have you ever purchased a game before with the expectation of being able to play it for free on every other platform that it's made for?!?!
Here's a real life example to show just how silly that statement is:
I bought Duke Nukem last month for PC because my Xbox 360 red-ringed and I didn't feel like waiting until I could buy another one to play the game. Well I finally got my new 360 a week ago. Does that mean I deserve to receive the game for my 360 for free? Of course not. If I want to play it on my 360, I will have to buy it again.
Some peoples sense of entitlement is out of control.
Notch didn't even work on 1.8, he kicked back and relaxed while jeb did all the work.
TV News : So , jeb , how do you made this super update for this popular game called minecraft?
Jeb : Well it was hard , becau...
Notch : Hey hey , i did it , forget jeb , he probably mad eall the work , but i had the idea! , i had the idea , give the m oney to me , put the cameras on me, jeb is nothing , i did it!!
---
I am now feeling , that jeb is notch´s bi....
Notch : Jeb , we should add NPCs and enderman
Jeb : Cool , lets start!
Notch : Yeah , yeah , can you make it alone , please?
Jeb : Okay , i just thought we could work as a team as we did back in 1.4 :smile.gif:
Notch : Yeah , in 1.9 i will work for you , dont worry , just code it!
* After 1.8 release
Jeb : Notch , i released 1.8 , how do you see it?
Notch : Cool cool , Okay , now for 1.9 you need to do animal breeding
Jeb : But you said that...
Notch : Shut the f*ck up and start working!
Are you kidding me??? I've heard this kicked around several times. People who want pocket minecraft or xbox minecraft for free because they bought it already on pc. That's just dumb. When have you ever purchased a game before with the expectation of being able to play it for free on every other platform that it's made for?!?!
Here's a real life example to show just how silly that statement is:
I bought Duke Nukem last month for PC because my Xbox 360 red-ringed and I didn't feel like waiting until I could buy another one to play the game. Well I finally got my new 360 a week ago. Does that mean I deserve to receive the game for my 360 for free? Of course not. If I want to play it on my 360, I will have to buy it again.
Some peoples sense of entitlement is out of control.
Then you haven't heard that Steam is getting into xbox 360. I'm not sure how all of that will work, but you should be able to play the low 3rd party games through steam on what ever system. Since you bought it through steam, it is available on any platform. You might say this is dumb, but that idea is already opening up and is starting to become reality. Also says 360 players MIGHT be able to play against anyone on any platform.
So yea...This is not some BIG HUGE game like Halo or COD, this is a small time low budget game. I'm not sure how they will work all this into the Microsoft servers but if it is anything like we have now then it should be possible to play across platforms. Like this game, all you do is log on using your username and you can play. Well download the version for the Xbox 360, plug in your username, and play on there. <--That could possibly be how they will set it up. You never know.
So before you call people dumb, you might want to look into things. :smile.gif:
Edit: I know this game doesn't use Steam, just using Steam as an example.
Another thing, they still say the final version (non-beta) will be released in November of this year.
Edit: Also you might want to look into "Games for Windows Live" It basically will allow games bought through that service to be played on both platforms. Basically saying that MineCraft will most likely be able to be played on both computer and xbox 360 if you bought the cross-platform licenses. If MineCraft is able to be played on your Windows-Live phone then you will be able to play it on that as well, though I highly doubt that will happen. SO...they might make it so you can pay like $5/$10 to get that cross-platform licenses so you can play on both without having to re-buy the game.
The reality of this situation is I have received my $12 of enjoyment from Minecraft a long time ago and Notch
owes me (or really any of us) nothing. I have not spent $12 and received this much enjoyment before.
Having run a number of companies, Mojang suffers from a problem many start-ups suffer from and that is being too ambitious. In reality in a perfect world they should never have taken on multiple projects as a TINY developer and rush to become a PUBLISHER of other games. I realize that developing for xbox and smartphones is a move to RIDE the wave before it dies, but that is why I think the community feels the lag in development that has mostly been carried by plug-in developers.
Too many conferences, trade shows and multitasking. You would not normally take your whole programming team to
a PR event. This is a challenge for a company like Mojang and Notch, who not only is the figurehead but the
inspiration/visionary as well.
I think the best direction would be to get a top notch API out there and that would greatly take the pressure off MOJANG.
But as I have said, I have no complaints, just my two cents.
This thread fails, but I'm not going to leave it at that.
Reasons it took so long:
COMPLETELY NEW lighting engine
COMPLETELY NEW world generation including complex abandoned mineshafts, complex npc villages with a huge variety of buildings, and two new biomes.
COMPLETELY NEW mobs
NPCs built from the ground up
Notch got married
PAX
Notch helped to design the Xbox and pocket versions of the game
And many more reasons I can't think of off the top of my head.
Keep in mind that Notch and the rest of Mojang need to worry about idiot fanboys (and girls) who can't accept change; this makes it hard to release such a wonderfully game-changing update quickly.
The NPCs will be added in 1.9, as will functioning experience.
God I wish there was a like button... The reputation up serves its purpose enough :biggrin.gif:
Aether is just one example. Many things like Mo'Creatures has been updated through months just like minecraft. And they don't add any game-changing elements. Just tons of new mobs and items.
I'm not saying their bad or anything. I think mods are amazing! But I just think your argument is simply not correct, as modding is often slower or adds less content then notch/jeb.
This.
Haters need to stop whining. I think all the 12 year old are just getting angry because notch added enderman and they can't play anymore.
ALSO This is a pre release, and ITS A BETA.
You're still making an assumption based on nothing but vague tweets and blog posts. The fact is, you don't know how much time or effort they put into it. You also don't know where the game is supposed to be once finished and how much time they need to budget to get there. On top of that, Minecraft may not be a priority to them, and there's no reason why they need to make it one. They've already gotten the bulk of the audience they were going to get, anyway. As a company, Mojang's future isn't Minecraft.
Are you kidding me??? I've heard this kicked around several times. People who want pocket minecraft or xbox minecraft for free because they bought it already on pc. That's just dumb. When have you ever purchased a game before with the expectation of being able to play it for free on every other platform that it's made for?!?!
Here's a real life example to show just how silly that statement is:
I bought Duke Nukem last month for PC because my Xbox 360 red-ringed and I didn't feel like waiting until I could buy another one to play the game. Well I finally got my new 360 a week ago. Does that mean I deserve to receive the game for my 360 for free? Of course not. If I want to play it on my 360, I will have to buy it again.
Some peoples sense of entitlement is out of control.
TV News : So , jeb , how do you made this super update for this popular game called minecraft?
Jeb : Well it was hard , becau...
Notch : Hey hey , i did it , forget jeb , he probably mad eall the work , but i had the idea! , i had the idea , give the m oney to me , put the cameras on me, jeb is nothing , i did it!!
---
I am now feeling , that jeb is notch´s bi....
Notch : Jeb , we should add NPCs and enderman
Jeb : Cool , lets start!
Notch : Yeah , yeah , can you make it alone , please?
Jeb : Okay , i just thought we could work as a team as we did back in 1.4 :smile.gif:
Notch : Yeah , in 1.9 i will work for you , dont worry , just code it!
* After 1.8 release
Jeb : Notch , i released 1.8 , how do you see it?
Notch : Cool cool , Okay , now for 1.9 you need to do animal breeding
Jeb : But you said that...
Notch : Shut the f*ck up and start working!
Then you haven't heard that Steam is getting into xbox 360. I'm not sure how all of that will work, but you should be able to play the low 3rd party games through steam on what ever system. Since you bought it through steam, it is available on any platform. You might say this is dumb, but that idea is already opening up and is starting to become reality. Also says 360 players MIGHT be able to play against anyone on any platform.
Source: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/112903-Rumor-Xbox-360-Finally-Opening-Up-to-Steamworks
So yea...This is not some BIG HUGE game like Halo or COD, this is a small time low budget game. I'm not sure how they will work all this into the Microsoft servers but if it is anything like we have now then it should be possible to play across platforms. Like this game, all you do is log on using your username and you can play. Well download the version for the Xbox 360, plug in your username, and play on there. <--That could possibly be how they will set it up. You never know.
So before you call people dumb, you might want to look into things. :smile.gif:
Edit: I know this game doesn't use Steam, just using Steam as an example.
Another thing, they still say the final version (non-beta) will be released in November of this year.
Edit: Also you might want to look into "Games for Windows Live" It basically will allow games bought through that service to be played on both platforms. Basically saying that MineCraft will most likely be able to be played on both computer and xbox 360 if you bought the cross-platform licenses. If MineCraft is able to be played on your Windows-Live phone then you will be able to play it on that as well, though I highly doubt that will happen. SO...they might make it so you can pay like $5/$10 to get that cross-platform licenses so you can play on both without having to re-buy the game.
owes me (or really any of us) nothing. I have not spent $12 and received this much enjoyment before.
Having run a number of companies, Mojang suffers from a problem many start-ups suffer from and that is being too ambitious. In reality in a perfect world they should never have taken on multiple projects as a TINY developer and rush to become a PUBLISHER of other games. I realize that developing for xbox and smartphones is a move to RIDE the wave before it dies, but that is why I think the community feels the lag in development that has mostly been carried by plug-in developers.
Too many conferences, trade shows and multitasking. You would not normally take your whole programming team to
a PR event. This is a challenge for a company like Mojang and Notch, who not only is the figurehead but the
inspiration/visionary as well.
I think the best direction would be to get a top notch API out there and that would greatly take the pressure off MOJANG.
But as I have said, I have no complaints, just my two cents.
God I wish there was a like button... The reputation up serves its purpose enough :biggrin.gif:
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