If you go with bad manners to complain to someone about something you wont get far.
Let me give you an example:
Once i was flying back to my country, we were stuck at germany because we lost the plain (snow storms suck). We lost the plane to the next conection where we should take a plane back home.
One guy got mad and started talking to the girl behind the desk rudely but in the bottom he was right, they should get us a plane and be responsable of the delay.
My father (wise old man) with his bad english TALKED to the girl, asked for a solution nicely.
Remember who was back home the next day?
Still doesn't mean it isn't constructive. It does start pointless ****, but hey it gets the point across.
People should be nice, but the internet isn't Utopia.
And i miss the bugs, I miss the floating sand glitches. I miss the far lands. I Hate the end, Because Minecraft was thought to be a endless game. I hate the hunger and XP bars. I miss Beta entirely.
To be honest notch. You ruined the game
Claiming the game was ruined just because he doesnt likes some additions, the most stupid thing is that it says BUGS should come back...
Biomes should seriously be fixed. Generated this map 5 minutes ago in the new 1.1 update
Thread title says " 1.1 biome sucks right now ", then in the thread the only " proof " about this is desert and snow biome together... not giving real proof of why this could be wrong
What I'm trying to say is that the new minecraft SUCKS worlds feel the same and they have no different qualities its like the world are the same! I miss the old way who else does!
Hopefully they Make it more like the old days.
Oh this ones are really common, the random guy saying why the game should roll back to beta or alpha without giving real reasons of why the features he mentioned are wrong, just said " Minecraft sucks, because i dont like this feature ".
And yes, im really this bored to have looked threads in my profile content.
I agree those threads are absurd, but it still is criticism.
I agree that there are quite an handful of them, but what most people are saying is that the forum is being flooded with them, which isn't true.
Still doesn't mean it isn't constructive. It does start pointless ****, but hey it gets the point across.
People should be nice, but the internet isn't Utopia.
Most of the values "shown" on those threads are WAY far away from contructivism
To start anger is not constructive.
You are like ok world is f*** up, so lets leave it that way. I refuse to think that way and i practice what i preach.
So I wanted to start an argument but OP didn't? I sense a fault in your logic.
I dont see how OP is starting an argument if he is thread is quite polite.
Gray masses complain, more ambitious men create ideas. First step: complaints. Second step: attention of the right people. Third step: coming up with a solution. Fourth step: ???. Fifth step: profit!
If anger is in between thers no attention, they will ignore you or make your live impossible.
Back to the example:
That plane guy had to wait for the next day to take a plane and lost all the connections while i arived to my home on the next day without problems.
However, most of changes wanted by complainers wouldn't ruin the game for defenders. Example: let's add alpha worldgen options!; no, alpha sucked, you moron, get off with your stupid nostalgia! Leosanim's sig is something like it.
Im not going to go ON that topic because im not concearns me. I read those complaints and it seems they ARE DEMANDING something on a rude way more than suggesting, trying to call attention, thats the picture i got from them.
Those you clal defenders answer back as the complainers would answer back if the defenders want something to stay on the same way.
First order of buisiness, I very well knew what I was jumping into when complaining about the fanbase, and I appreciate those who agree and disagree with me, that is what helps keep everything under control around here.
Second order, I made this post with the discreet resolution of providing a way of discouraging the abhorrent behaviour of this fanbase (and many others): all you have to do to ease the problem is to simply ignore the people who lack anything construcitve to say, and encourage those who could provide constructive ideas that could help Minecraft become the game that it should, as it is driven by us, the players!
Kind of a late new-years resolution. :smile.gif:
First order of buisiness, I very well knew what I was jumping into when complaining about the fanbase, and I appreciate those who agree and disagree with me, that is what helps keep everything under control around here.
Second order, I made this post with the discreet resolution of providing a way of discouraging the abhorrent behaviour of this fanbase (and many others): all you have to do to ease the problem is to simply ignore the people who lack anything construcitve to say, and encourage those who could provide constructive ideas that could help Minecraft become the game that it should, as it is driven by us, the players!
Kind of a late new-years resolution. :smile.gif:
They encourage each other to do things on an deconstructive way. One post, the other supports and the ball starts rollin´. Suddenly yoiu have a massive snow ball rolling down the hill.
Ttzara, I am not saying that complainers are innocent, but defender aren't so good either. They are just as bad, if not worse. You fail to see it, but in complainers' point of view it is visible very well.
I do see their point as i see their bad attitude sometimes. I never somebody is inocent or guilty, you missunderstood everything i said.
Uh, Mr. Rookai, i don't know what is wrong with you, but you obviously never played any online games or are just bad bad troll.
This community is one of most adequate.
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They encourage each other to do things on an deconstructive way. One post, the other supports and the ball starts rollin´. Suddenly yoiu have a massive snow ball rolling down the hill.
Yes, i´ve noticed this.
Example :
A complainer makes a thread " 1.8+ biomes sucks "
Then, a complainer answer " Yeah man, you are totally right, it was so much better in alpha but it was ruined in beta and now even worse, blah bla bla bla... "
Then, that complainer makes a thread called " 1.8+ biomes are ugly as **** "
Then, the complainer that made the " 1.8+ biomes suck " starts " Yeah man, you are totally right, it was so good before and now it toally sucks, its so horrible i cant even play anymore ".
Then, the first complainer makes a 3rd thread " 1.8+ biomes are horrible ", the other supports
Then the other makes another thread, and the first complainer support.
Then, Both complainers mutually support themself in all of the threads until they create a massive chunk of complaining nonsense.
Almost every fanbase is like this, the worst I've seen was when I played WoW and even Maplestory waaaay back in the day was pretty bad as well. In fact I could go on the WoW Arena forums right now and almost all of the topics are complaining about a different class/mechanic.
Yeah this community is actually VERY nice. The people complaining on this game USUALLY are complaining about something that's worth it. For example, the armor buffs or ice blocks not being affected by silk touch.
Every now and then you see the person who's a total idiot who decides to complain about mobs being to hard or Minecraft being totally dumb or Jeb/Notch being stupid. Just ignore them.
If you want to see a bad video game community, go check out some World of Warcraft boards.
Is that "Hot Topic" bucket on this thread about to be poured and start a flame war? I think so.
And then the OP's point will be proven.
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Yeah this community is actually VERY nice. The people complaining on this game USUALLY are complaining about something that's worth it. For example, the armor buffs or ice blocks not being affected by silk touch.
Every now and then you see the person who's a total idiot who decides to complain about mobs being to hard or Minecraft being totally dumb or Jeb/Notch being stupid. Just ignore them.
If you want to see a bad video game community, go check out some World of Warcraft boards.
If Wow comunity is worse than minecraft, it doesnt means that minecraft comunity is better. Honestly i think every day is getting worse. This is not the first online game i play and ive noticed that despite theres bad people is out there, the comunity may be good good, but as more "bad" people is appearing on the comunity its getting worse.
If Wow comunity is worse than minecraft, it doesnt means that minecraft comunity is better. Honestly i think every day is getting worse. This is not the first online game i play and ive noticed that despite theres bad people is out there, the comunity may be good good, but as more "bad" people is appearing on the comunity its getting worse.
But there's also more "good" people joining everyday as well.
See, what my point was it's like this for EVERY game. Just realize no matter what its always like this, it FEELS like its getting worse but that's because all you see are the "bad" people. Just ignore them and be glad this community is at least active in a sense of providing suggestions for the game. Though some have better ways of doing it than others, "bad" people are those you simply disagree with.
Look at the community as half full, not half empty.
The Minecraft Forums by no means compare to the most amiable fanbase I know of (BIONICLE's BZPower), but it's still quite aways from the worst. It has all the standard infighting in all its various gray shades. And of course, the people that consolidate the human condition in its multiplicity into as few columns as they can delude themselves into believing exist. In our case, "worshipers" of the devs and "haters" of the devs. And then the smart people, whomever the person categorizing others is or whoever is driving the person's goals furthest.
This is pretty much standard. You see this stuff happen everywhere. That said, you're right. This is the worst part about Minecraft. Don't worry, though. That just means it's a great game alongside other titles whose worst problems are the same. The old Bungie.net Halo forums come to mind.
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Make note: I generally avoid being insulting. If I sound insulting, I'm probably joking.
Im not going to point no-one because thats RUDE.
Still doesn't mean it isn't constructive. It does start pointless ****, but hey it gets the point across.
People should be nice, but the internet isn't Utopia.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/996975-my-personal-thoughts-on-the-recent-updates/
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/937295-11-biomes-sucks-right-now/
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/988362-you-can-use-a-bed-outside-absurd/
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/947584-minecraft-not-like-it-used-to-be/
Okay, now lets make take some info from those threads.
Claiming the game was ruined just because he doesnt likes some additions, the most stupid thing is that it says BUGS should come back...
Thread title says " 1.1 biome sucks right now ", then in the thread the only " proof " about this is desert and snow biome together... not giving real proof of why this could be wrong
I dont need to say anything here, do i?
I just looked in my profile int he part of " content " i found all this, this threads are from this week or the last week, so recent.
Oh this ones are really common, the random guy saying why the game should roll back to beta or alpha without giving real reasons of why the features he mentioned are wrong, just said " Minecraft sucks, because i dont like this feature ".
And yes, im really this bored to have looked threads in my profile content.
I agree that there are quite an handful of them, but what most people are saying is that the forum is being flooded with them, which isn't true.
Most of the values "shown" on those threads are WAY far away from contructivism
To start anger is not constructive.
You are like ok world is f*** up, so lets leave it that way. I refuse to think that way and i practice what i preach.
I dont see how OP is starting an argument if he is thread is quite polite.
If anger is in between thers no attention, they will ignore you or make your live impossible.
Back to the example:
That plane guy had to wait for the next day to take a plane and lost all the connections while i arived to my home on the next day without problems.
Im not going to go ON that topic because im not concearns me. I read those complaints and it seems they ARE DEMANDING something on a rude way more than suggesting, trying to call attention, thats the picture i got from them.
Those you clal defenders answer back as the complainers would answer back if the defenders want something to stay on the same way.
Second order, I made this post with the discreet resolution of providing a way of discouraging the abhorrent behaviour of this fanbase (and many others): all you have to do to ease the problem is to simply ignore the people who lack anything construcitve to say, and encourage those who could provide constructive ideas that could help Minecraft become the game that it should, as it is driven by us, the players!
Kind of a late new-years resolution. :smile.gif:
They encourage each other to do things on an deconstructive way. One post, the other supports and the ball starts rollin´. Suddenly yoiu have a massive snow ball rolling down the hill.
I do see their point as i see their bad attitude sometimes. I never somebody is inocent or guilty, you missunderstood everything i said.
This community is one of most adequate.
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Yes, i´ve noticed this.
Example :
A complainer makes a thread " 1.8+ biomes sucks "
Then, a complainer answer " Yeah man, you are totally right, it was so much better in alpha but it was ruined in beta and now even worse, blah bla bla bla... "
Then, that complainer makes a thread called " 1.8+ biomes are ugly as **** "
Then, the complainer that made the " 1.8+ biomes suck " starts " Yeah man, you are totally right, it was so good before and now it toally sucks, its so horrible i cant even play anymore ".
Then, the first complainer makes a 3rd thread " 1.8+ biomes are horrible ", the other supports
Then the other makes another thread, and the first complainer support.
Then, Both complainers mutually support themself in all of the threads until they create a massive chunk of complaining nonsense.
To be honest, I'm sick of this community. Most people are so immature and dumb, there's only 3, maybe 4 I can name that are actually respectable.
And I'm here to complain about the complainer that's complaining about a complainer. :tongue.gif:
If people just skipped the original complaint threads they don't like then there would be at least 4x-100x fewer posts on this forum, heh heh.
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Yeah this community is actually VERY nice. The people complaining on this game USUALLY are complaining about something that's worth it. For example, the armor buffs or ice blocks not being affected by silk touch.
Every now and then you see the person who's a total idiot who decides to complain about mobs being to hard or Minecraft being totally dumb or Jeb/Notch being stupid. Just ignore them.
If you want to see a bad video game community, go check out some World of Warcraft boards.
And then the OP's point will be proven.
If Wow comunity is worse than minecraft, it doesnt means that minecraft comunity is better. Honestly i think every day is getting worse. This is not the first online game i play and ive noticed that despite theres bad people is out there, the comunity may be good good, but as more "bad" people is appearing on the comunity its getting worse.
But there's also more "good" people joining everyday as well.
See, what my point was it's like this for EVERY game. Just realize no matter what its always like this, it FEELS like its getting worse but that's because all you see are the "bad" people. Just ignore them and be glad this community is at least active in a sense of providing suggestions for the game. Though some have better ways of doing it than others, "bad" people are those you simply disagree with.
Look at the community as half full, not half empty.
And the people who complain about notch after every update. Even though he has stopped working on them...
This is pretty much standard. You see this stuff happen everywhere. That said, you're right. This is the worst part about Minecraft. Don't worry, though. That just means it's a great game alongside other titles whose worst problems are the same. The old Bungie.net Halo forums come to mind.