You know, I just thought of something kinda important.
We wouldn't be able to light buildings made out of ice. They'd melt.
So for ice blocks to be useful for building we'd need a "cold" light source (i.e. one that doesn't generate heat.)
I guess it really depends on how you implement ice into your creation. If it's a pure ice castle, yeah, you might have a problem there. However if you just use it here and there you could probably position light sources far enough away where they can still light the place up but not melt nearby ice.
Though, a cold source of light would be a welcome addition too.
Who cares if water is in the nether? Obsidian is not OVER POWERED. It takes forever to mine and you must have a diamond pick to do so.
If you sleep in a bed, then you don't even need to worry about creepers blowing up your house. Creepers are the only thing that makes obsidian different then any other block (besides mine time).
i think sikl touch should get ice and be able to make an ice pick like ice armor and tools but i want to make an ice building so... MAKE IT SO WE CAN GET ICE
I actually don't even see what would be so bad about being able to collect monster spawners or any other block with silk touch. Once you have access to silk touch, you already have diamonds and access to the nether, so being able to choose where you setup your monster spawner farm isn't really a big deal.
Hell, being able to pick where your portal to The End is located would be pretty cool too. You would still have to find it in the first place.
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I use the FTB modpack, because it's fun, and extremely convenient.
For that matter, I don't see what's so bad about having water in the Nether, either.
--Farming yay. I love mushroom soup, but wheat would be nice.
--Fishing yay. Gives me something to do while waiting for my netherworts to grow.
--Kill blazes? C'mon. You already have to manually kill them to get the drop. Not a big balance issue, here.
--Make lots of obsidian. I have a cavern under my house. It has a lava lake so long and wide I have been pulling obsidian from it for 2 months and still haven't reached the middle. I have over a stack and a half of obsidian, as well as several portals. More than I can use in a lifetime.
cold light source
Amen bro. +1 from me. I'd love to be able to light up my tundra home with a nonmelting light source. it wouldn't even have to be very bright, just enough to keep the gibblies off the roof. Maybe moonstone - > a moon lantern, gives off a cool silvery light like moonlight but somewhat more intense, say 12.
I understand why Mojang nerfed Silk Touch to disable Ice harvesting, to prevent water in the Nether, but their fix is a ******** lazy bandaid solution to the problem. I don't even want water in the nether, but I do want the ability to build with ice outside snow biomes.
A more intelligent solution would be to make it so placing Ice in the nether results the same in the way it does when you place a water block in the nether.
Maybe it's not as simple as you think it is. Maybe it's a bit more complicated and your "simple fix" simply doesn't actually work. Maybe they already had thought of it and it didn't work as they wanted it to work. Did you ever, once, consider that? I didn't think so.
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Just waiting for Forge to officially release for 1.13.x to remove unneeded mobs from 1.13, like Phantoms, from the game because, in my gameplay based opinion, they add nothing of value to the game.
Fun fact: Clicking a bed every 30 minutes doesn't make you a better player, it makes you one who clicks a bed every 30 minutes. Wouldn't you rather just mod them out of the game completely?
Maybe it's not as simple as you think it is. Maybe it's a bit more complicated and your "simple fix" simply doesn't actually work. Maybe they already had thought of it and it didn't work as they wanted it to work. Did you ever, once, consider that? I didn't think so.
*places ice block in nether
*breaks ice block with hand or ice block melts
*copy and paste code from after dumping water from bucket - anything dealing with bucket
If you have even the slightest understanding of how coding works like I do (I get the basic concepts and I've tinkered with BASIC, HTML, Java, etc.) you realize how laughably easy a fix like this in the sense of work and time. It's frustrating that something like this that should by all means be an easy fix isn't done.
I mean, what, Jeb can't copy the "IF PLACED = NETHER THEN = DESTROY" code from water into the Ice Block? ;_;
HTML is a markup language, not a programming language.
*places ice block in nether
*breaks ice block with hand or ice block melts
*copy and paste code from after dumping water from bucket - anything dealing with bucket
Dang! That was difficult!
Except, they probably tried that and it probably broke something else in the game. Every time you make a change to a complex code base, there's the chance it will affect something else seemingly unrelated.
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Just waiting for Forge to officially release for 1.13.x to remove unneeded mobs from 1.13, like Phantoms, from the game because, in my gameplay based opinion, they add nothing of value to the game.
Fun fact: Clicking a bed every 30 minutes doesn't make you a better player, it makes you one who clicks a bed every 30 minutes. Wouldn't you rather just mod them out of the game completely?
Except, they probably tried that and it probably broke something else in the game. Every time you make a change to a complex code base, there's the chance it will affect something else seemingly unrelated.
All using a bucket of water does is place a water block and change the bucket into a regular one. I assume they only applied evaporation to some code in buckets instead of applying evaportion to water block in the Nether. They can make enderman angry at you from looking at them, I'm pretty sure this would be an easy fix for them with no bugs.
Who cares if water is in the nether? Obsidian is not OVER POWERED. It takes forever to mine and you must have a diamond pick to do so.
It's not the obsidian that's the problem, it's the lava going away (and being able to extinguish yourself in the water.) The Nether is supposed to be dangerous.
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Mostly moved on. May check back a few times a year.
It's not the obsidian that's the problem, it's the lava going away (and being able to extinguish yourself in the water.) The Nether is supposed to be dangerous.
They should at least allow silk touch to pick up ice -- whether or not ice works in the nether should be a different issue entirely...
Maybe it's not as simple as you think it is. Maybe it's a bit more complicated and your "simple fix" simply doesn't actually work. Maybe they already had thought of it and it didn't work as they wanted it to work. Did you ever, once, consider that? I didn't think so.
Orly? The guys who developed the Aether mod made it so when you place Holystone in the nether it evaporates, and if 3rd party programmers can do it, I sure as hell expect the people who developed the game in the first place to be able to as well.
I agree with Bumber's statement that water makes the nether too easy, but if Mojang were to make a lava with a different ID and place that in the Nether, they could possibly make it so that the lava is either impossible to extinguish, or cause any water source blocks connected directly or indirectly (via the flow they create) to evaporate the water instead.
you do know they didn't remove it so you couldn't have ice in nether right? it was because when you broke it with silk touch, it left water and you got the ice back so, you got infinite water with one ice block, pretty much killing the patient instead of curing the disease.
We wouldn't be able to light buildings made out of ice. They'd melt.
So for ice blocks to be useful for building we'd need a "cold" light source (i.e. one that doesn't generate heat.)
I guess it really depends on how you implement ice into your creation. If it's a pure ice castle, yeah, you might have a problem there. However if you just use it here and there you could probably position light sources far enough away where they can still light the place up but not melt nearby ice.
Though, a cold source of light would be a welcome addition too.
If you sleep in a bed, then you don't even need to worry about creepers blowing up your house. Creepers are the only thing that makes obsidian different then any other block (besides mine time).
Lava isn't even hard to find in the regular world
Hell, being able to pick where your portal to The End is located would be pretty cool too. You would still have to find it in the first place.
--Farming yay. I love mushroom soup, but wheat would be nice.
--Fishing yay. Gives me something to do while waiting for my netherworts to grow.
--Kill blazes? C'mon. You already have to manually kill them to get the drop. Not a big balance issue, here.
--Make lots of obsidian. I have a cavern under my house. It has a lava lake so long and wide I have been pulling obsidian from it for 2 months and still haven't reached the middle. I have over a stack and a half of obsidian, as well as several portals. More than I can use in a lifetime.
Amen bro. +1 from me. I'd love to be able to light up my tundra home with a nonmelting light source. it wouldn't even have to be very bright, just enough to keep the gibblies off the roof. Maybe moonstone - > a moon lantern, gives off a cool silvery light like moonlight but somewhat more intense, say 12.
Maybe it's not as simple as you think it is. Maybe it's a bit more complicated and your "simple fix" simply doesn't actually work. Maybe they already had thought of it and it didn't work as they wanted it to work. Did you ever, once, consider that? I didn't think so.
Just waiting for Forge to officially release for 1.13.x to remove unneeded mobs from 1.13, like Phantoms, from the game because, in my gameplay based opinion, they add nothing of value to the game.
Fun fact: Clicking a bed every 30 minutes doesn't make you a better player, it makes you one who clicks a bed every 30 minutes. Wouldn't you rather just mod them out of the game completely?
*breaks ice block with hand or ice block melts
*copy and paste code from after dumping water from bucket - anything dealing with bucket
Dang! That was difficult!
HTML is a markup language, not a programming language.
Except, they probably tried that and it probably broke something else in the game. Every time you make a change to a complex code base, there's the chance it will affect something else seemingly unrelated.
Just waiting for Forge to officially release for 1.13.x to remove unneeded mobs from 1.13, like Phantoms, from the game because, in my gameplay based opinion, they add nothing of value to the game.
Fun fact: Clicking a bed every 30 minutes doesn't make you a better player, it makes you one who clicks a bed every 30 minutes. Wouldn't you rather just mod them out of the game completely?
Mostly moved on. May check back a few times a year.
They should at least allow silk touch to pick up ice -- whether or not ice works in the nether should be a different issue entirely...
It makes the Nether too easy.
Mostly moved on. May check back a few times a year.
Orly? The guys who developed the Aether mod made it so when you place Holystone in the nether it evaporates, and if 3rd party programmers can do it, I sure as hell expect the people who developed the game in the first place to be able to as well.
I agree with Bumber's statement that water makes the nether too easy, but if Mojang were to make a lava with a different ID and place that in the Nether, they could possibly make it so that the lava is either impossible to extinguish, or cause any water source blocks connected directly or indirectly (via the flow they create) to evaporate the water instead.
Allows you to generate MASSIVE ammounts of obsidian
Lets you make some automated Mob farms that you wouldnt be able to do in the nether
With water in the nether i think you could do normal fams there which imho would be kinda strange... ?